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I can recall every detail of the day my daughter was born. I have never experienced so much joy in such a moment. I cherish every moment I spent with her when she was my 'Little Petal' and I was her 'Cool Dad'.

I'd like to have the same experiences. But, when they get married, girls have to separate from their family and cleave unto their husband.

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I'd like to have the same experiences. But, when they get married, girls have to separate from their family and cleave unto their husband.

Don't you believe it.
Daughters are for life.

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Don't you believe it.
Daughters are for life.

That fatherly bond will keep a wedge between the husband and wife, preventing their bond of marriage from being full and complete. That can cause problems later on; like a graft that doesn't completely take.

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That fatherly bond will keep a wedge between the husband and wife, preventing their bond of marriage from being full and complete. That can cause problems later on; like a graft that doesn't completely take.

Sorry, but I seriously have to disagree with that one.
The fatherly bond with a daughter is a huge force for good.
The way that women relate to men when they are adults depends on how they related to their father when they were children.

If you want a quick pick-up, go for a girl that had a bad relationship with her father. She'll screw you just to get back at her dad, but she'll never respect you.

If you want a girl worth keeping, go for one that respects her father, warts and all.

Look at stats on dysfunctional women, single mothers etc. A glaringly obvious common factor is the absence of a 'father-figure'.

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Sorry, but I seriously have to disagree with that one.
The fatherly bond with a daughter is a huge force for good.
The way that women relate to men when they are adults depends on how they related to their father when they were children.

If you want a quick pick-up, go for a girl that had a bad relationship with her father. She'll screw you just to get back at her dad, but she'll never respect you.

If you want a girl worth keeping, go for one that respects her father, warts and all.

Look at stats on dysfunctional women, single mothers etc. A glaringly obvious common factor is the absence of a 'father-figure'.

I agree with what you are saying. I meant that once she gets married she should look to her husband and not her father any more. Before she's married, a good fatherly relationship is good, but once she has a husband, it is him she should have that good relationship with.

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why, unlike so many members of my sex, does my cup runneth over with self-confidence?

In my experience most women are very self-confident, particularly when it comes to throwing their weight around when a man does something they don't like, or intruding into his life to offer unsolicited criticism / advice.

The myth that women lack self-confidence is a handy excuse for female failure.
No women in top jobs? Few female Nobel-prize winners? Well it can't be because they don't try, are unwilling to make sacrifices or lack the ability.
It must be because they "lack confidence", because the world is "male-dominated", and "doesn't value" them.

Maybe like all misandrists, Samantha Brick just takes men for granted.
Maybe she's utterly confident in her father's love because she's basically arrogant and thinks she's worthy of love no matter how she behaves.

Or maybe she's being very subtle here. If "most women lack confidence", and she is confident because of her father's love, is she trying to subtly suggest that "most women lack confidence because their father didn't love them enough"?

"Feminist blames men for everything" shock!

I meant that once she gets married she should look to her husband and not her father any more.

antimisandry.com Samantha Brick redeems herself.

That would be taking things too far.

Getting married ought not to mean refusing to take any more notice of others who were (and still will be if you let them) an important positive influence in your life. A husband is a husband, not a jailer. A Father is a father. A good dad isn't a jailer either. Both a husband and a Father can have their positive places in a woman's life.

It ain't a competition.

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If you want a girl worth keeping, go for one that respects her father, warts and all.

Oh okay. I guess that respect shouldn't be earned. She should simply respect him because he is her father...

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

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Oh okay. I guess that respect shouldn't be earned. She should simply respect him because he is her father...

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

All respect is earned. Are you suggesting that girls don't have the sense to work out for themselves whether their father is worthy of respect? Respect for others is the default condition. It may increase or decrease depending on our observation of their behaviour.

But that comes later in life. For children it's much more about love and trust. In stable families, fathers are automatically accorded respect at first. They have to rise to the occasion and the great majority do.

If you read the article again you'll see that Samantha doesn't acknowledge respect for her father directly, only his love and support for her.

His love has been the key to my being able to love myself.

And How!! She certainly does love herself. In fact her self-obsession oozes from every quote.

I’m so glad I found Pascal, a strong, masculine partner who would walk over hot coals to ensure no harm comes to me — just like Dad.

Sounds like Dad did too good a job on this one.

Therapist Marisa Peer, author of the book Ultimate Confidence: The Secrets to Feeling Great About Yourself Every Day, also believes this approach is crucial. ‘The first man women encounter is their father,’ she says. ‘If he consistently praises you and compliments you on your looks, this becomes familiar.

The 'compliments on looks' bit smells fishy - but praise for achievement never goes amiss, with any child.

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I meant that once she gets married she should look to her husband and not her father any more.

antimisandry.com Samantha Brick redeems herself.

That would be taking things too far.

Getting married ought not to mean refusing to take any more notice of others who were (and still will be if you let them) an important positive influence in your life. A husband is a husband, not a jailer. A Father is a father. A good dad isn't a jailer either. Both a husband and a Father can have their positive places in a woman's life.

It ain't a competition.

A while back, I posted about a thesis on teenage marriage: Positive Teen Marriage. One of the things the couples said helped their marriage was the lack of parental influence. The one couple that did have some parental involvement gave note that it caused a strain when the wife would go to her dad for marital advice instead of talking to her husband. There is a difference between getting advice on what is the best way to grow corn and how to resolve a relationship problem. A woman, or man, can serve only one master. Once a woman is married that person should be her husband; not the state, not her father, not her best friend, it should be her husband.

This doesn't mean she can't continue a relationship with her father and mother, like a husband might go fishing with his dad sometimes, but it is best for the marriage as a whole if she shifts her focus to her husband.

A woman, or man, can serve only one master. Once a woman is married that person should be her husband; not the state, not her father, not her best friend, it should be her husband.


antimisandry.com Samantha Brick redeems herself.

Didn't you get the memo, FB.

I have no human 'Master' and neither does anyone else.

Free people do not place others above them. A man and a woman ought to give their Love to one another freely.

I find this whole bizzo of 'Head' or 'Master' in a relationship as important as marriage to be ridiculous.

One of the key elements of the MRM that holds it back from general acceptance, is that some MRAs have an obsession with being the 'Boss'. This is Hubris.

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A woman, or man, can serve only one master. Once a woman is married that person should be her husband; not the state, not her father, not her best friend, it should be her husband.


antimisandry.com Samantha Brick redeems herself.

Didn't you get the memo, FB.

I have no human 'Master' and neither does anyone else.

Free people do not place others above them. A man and a woman ought to give their Love to one another freely.

I find this whole bizzo of 'Head' or 'Master' in a relationship as important as marriage to be ridiculous.

One of the key elements of the MRM that holds it back from general acceptance, is that some MRAs have an obsession with being the 'Boss'. This is Hubris.

Hmmm...
I guess I'm more of a traditionalist then... Don't know if I found my place yet then...



Even if the man is the "boss", there's this one saying I've heard, "The one who rocks the cradle, rules the kingdom." Even if the husband is the "master", the wife still usually gets what she wants.

And, everyone serves some master, human or no.

When one hears the phrase, "Give me Liberty or Death", expect most to accept slavery as a third option, and some to be slave masters as a fourth.

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When one hears the phrase, "Give me Liberty or Death", expect most to accept slavery as a third option, and some to be slave masters as a fourth.

I'll just make my own path, like Conan.