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NO MA'AM
A good place to find useful reading that I think explains a lot and sets a good grounding..

Rob seems to not be posting much these days, perhaps he has bottomed it all out and realised there is not much point for him!

I recall someone mentioning that men had to support children born out of wedlock. Many chivalrous men also married women that were left by the guy who got them pregnant.

I think too many men want to portray the past as something that was great for men.

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NO MA'AM
A good place to find useful reading that I think explains a lot and sets a good grounding..

Agreed.

Rob seems to not be posting much these days, perhaps he has bottomed it all out and realised there is not much point for him!

Maybe he met up with the intelligent female on his site.

That is not a dig BTW. He isn't the Al Bundy of Canada really.

As post hoc reasoning goes Rob does a reasonable job. As far as it goes.

But today to see a man as having 'surplus' labour and that he has to use it to 'buy' a reproductive ability that is so disrespected and made worthless by women that they abort babies in order to keep their dress size, is just laughable.

She sqanders her reproductive ability and squanders his surplus in like mode.

Looking back to a long past world, we may make some guesses as to why and how things happened, leaving out many crucial aspects of 'humaness', unexamined. It was a 'stage' of humanity when the world, while still round, allowed expansion; a moving away; needing 'Life' and population.

This past two centuries have seen a wholesale change. I pointed this out in my Podcast. :-

Our society has become de-coupled from life.

It has crept up with a roar.

Two world wars; a fascist slaughering of innocents, east and west; a communistic slaughtering on a world-wide scale; several generations of Good, sound men removed from the gene pool; women moved from home to work, to replace men away - or dead; The wars of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries saw mass murder at an unprecedented scale. Men died in the hundreds of thousands. The millions.

Are we seeing women suiciding in sorrow?

The 'miracle' of the pill; the encouragement and advocacy of wide-spread abortion; the wholesale destruction of family.; the abject failure to protect and nurture our children and the casting of our young people into drugs and promiscuity, crime, selfishness, ignorance and narcissism.

Is this not suicide?

At street level we live lives without the Authenticity of Love.

We abort babies. We no longer 'make love'; we ‘have sex’ with no intention or possibility of making children and when one 'happens' we kill it.

We have vasectomies; we tie tubes; we destroy potentiality and maim with hysterectomies; we have contraceptives.

A man and a woman, two human animals, do not permit themselves to authentically experience their natures. Or each other's.

We meet, we ‘hook-up’, we 'fuck', but it is not authentic. It is false.

We are busy creating a world of unfeeling faux-humans. We even look forward to machine people. Robots. Some MRAs wax lyrical about robots. I am astonished and dismayed. Women, those who profess to lerve ‘nature’, orgasm on millions of plastic penises.

When a man and a woman 'Love' as in the act of Love, they 'know' if the other is 'there' or not. Fully there in all their humanity, warts and all.

We Sense it.

We know when the one we are with isn't real, Isn’t there.

Women are turning away from men. They sense the deficit of authenticity in so many men. They have been busy insisting that men change into something a whole lot less than men instead of more than men currently. Men are turning away from women. There are hardly any adult women who love life to be found. We MRAs see - and talk incessantly about - our sensing of the inauthentic women. The hate-filled women. Women who are destroying all that was brilliant about women.

We sense the decline in Integrity; we see the lack of our own Integrity. We don’t want to see it though. We deny. We revel far too much in our power to deny life and deny the Integrity and authenticity of people as though it were smart. Slash with that sword, my hearty fellows.

We are ceasing even to love ourselves, preferring to have 'self-esteem'. An image. A fantasy that replaces the authentic.

We see the armour and not the man inside it.

Feminism is a bad dream; a nightmare result of our Inauthenticity. And we men, mostly, are inside the same nightmare.

We must become Conscious, before we lose ourselves altogether. Wake up.

Our world, Humanity, is at a critical phase in the development of a fully human consciousness that has been in evolution for 5 million years. It is the phase-transition of human development at which we have arrived. Just as the old Greeks were at that other transition when man gained ‘Mind’ and needed ‘Heart’ too

We, though, are failing.

The Fully human being may be still-born. Or aborted.

Eventually women will no longer be giving birth to children and thus men will be providing this surplus labor for free.

Does the man's obligation end? is there an opt out for men once this trade is no longer fair?

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Eventually women will no longer be giving birth to children and thus men will be providing this surplus labor for free.

Does the man's obligation end? is there an opt out for men once this trade is no longer fair?

Who does the Grail serve?

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Who does the Grail serve?

I don't know. Women? Look at all the surplus labor they get even when they are no longer offering reproductive ability. A logical person would expect a role reversal in that case.

Technology has changed so much. There is the semi-serious suggestion that the new ruling class is the "chav"..

What I find odd, is the perpetual moaning from men about the fact that they have to partake in work etc..

As a man who has sat on his arse for the past 15 plus years..

I can vouch for the fact that one of the most boring and soul destroying "jobs" is "doing nothing"..

Most men would not know what to do with themselves if they did not have someone putting them to work..

Lets face it!!

What do men do when the have extensive liesure time?

Nothing of the least significance on the whole..

More likely to shorten their lives, then extend it!

Fair do's Haahoo. Chavs may sit on their arses and do nothing but pick their noses and wank and eat vindaloo but the basis of western scientific knowledge was laid down by chaps with 'lineage' and no need to work, who had remarkably generative hobbies.

Geology was started by a 'chap' with an income from non-work (of his!) that allowed him to wander the hills and caves and look at rocks. Most of the Taxonomy of species was laid down by 'chaps' who collected butterflies and bugs. Even Bill Gates dropped out of Uni to tinker in his garage and play with new-fangled electronic bits and pieces, and look what he did. Then there was old Newton, who today would be kicked out of school as a disruptive, doodling autistic, picked on by the chavs, and having strange ideas about transmuting base metals into gold.

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Fair do's Haahoo. Chavs may sit on their arses and do nothing but pick their noses and wank and eat vindaloo but the basis of western scientific knowledge was laid down by chaps with 'lineage' and no need to work, who had remarkably generative hobbies.

Geology was started by a 'chap' with an income from non-work (of his!) that allowed him to wander the hills and caves and look at rocks. Most of the Taxonomy of species was laid down by 'chaps' who collected butterflies and bugs. Even Bill Gates dropped out of Uni to tinker in his garage and play with new-fangled electronic bits and pieces, and look what he did. Then there was old Newton, who today would be kicked out of school as a disruptive, doodling autistic, picked on by the chavs, and having strange ideas about transmuting base metals into gold.

Indeed percy.

Which is why I often say..

"The greatest wisdom is derived from ample leisure.."

Or words to that affect..

However, one needs a fully functioning and disciplined mind to make the most of such opportunities!

When I was battling with source code logic problems back in the 80's, i would struggle all day staring at the fucking print outs, draw diagrams and charts, even get my logistical tackle out on the busride home.. (which sometimes caused dismay to fellow travellors!) Then id give up..

As I was wanking in the bath hours later, suddenly i would leap up and shout "eureka!"..

Out of nowhere, the solution had come all over me!!

This system however, seems not to be the way for most folk..

They dont seem to have a "batch process" ticking over in their subconcious.. Behind "Tracey from Halifax" who is current taking the main attention and keeping the dopamine induced one-handed creativity high with her "art" poses..

Indeed, the vast majority of humanity create nothing much other than just a bit more power for the big hamster wheel than they can provide for their own sty's.. And even that is when pushed!

"Filler"... We geeky cobol programmers used to call the irrelavant content of areas of memory reserved for "working storage"..

Sometimes it was good to specify what the contents were..

WS-Average-Human-Mind ("Filler"..) Picture is X(100) Value Spaces..

This is similar to what 99% of humans have between their ears..

And they all have the vote..

Most of them can Fight, Fuck, Feed, Flee..

But they have little function outside of a controlled environment..

We just allow them to change the name of their prison every 4 years and they think that is democrasy..

Isn't this an excuse for women being lazy or demanding to marry up?

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Isn't this an excuse for women being lazy or demanding to marry up?

They dont need an excuse. They just need a mug!

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They dont need an excuse. They just need a mug!

Then it proves the article I posted earlier about Briffaults law on how if women loved men they would marry down close to 50% of the time.

What about those 10% of men who do marry up? Are some men somehow managing to get surplus labor and reproductive ability or do these relationships eventually end?


The pictures on his site are disturbing to say the least.

He does post an inaccurate picture. Back then rich men didn't really have to labor as well. They had other men do it. So how did those men not have to supply their own surplus labor while still having women's reproductive ability?

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Then it proves the article I posted earlier about Briffaults law on how if women loved men they would marry down close to 50% of the time.

What is love? The eternal question.. Women love a man based on his many talents and resources.. One of which is likely to be is ability to provide etc..

What about those 10% of men who do marry up? Are some men somehow managing to get surplus labor and reproductive ability or do these relationships eventually end?

They are often the "attentive" type that seek to provide things other than wealth etc.. Such as perpetual approval and "support" etc..

Caged pets, often!!

Or it is sometimes the case that women dont know the value of money..

Did queen victoria "marry down" to albert?

Was albert not the head of the family?

Some women "marry down" because they like the man, yes, simple as that!

Social ideas such as "class" etc and "higher/lower" etc are based on rather dubious assumptions..

The handsome, virile and energetic man may not need financial wealth to get a good specimen..

The ugly bitch with lots of money may choose to "buy a stud"..

The pictures on his site are disturbing to say the least.

He does post an inaccurate picture. Back then rich men didn't really have to labor as well. They had other men do it. So how did those men not have to supply their own surplus labor while still having women's reproductive ability?

The rich have a surplus of "power" which is not just labour, it is the ability to access labour..

They have that...

Labour is just one manifestation of power..

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What is love? The eternal question.. Women love a man based on his many talents and resources.. One of which is likely to be is ability to provide etc..




They are often the "attentive" type that seek to provide things other than wealth etc.. Such as perpetual approval and "support" etc..

Caged pets, often!!

Or it is sometimes the case that women dont know the value of money..

Did queen victoria "marry down" to albert?

Was albert not the head of the family?

Some women "marry down" because they like the man, yes, simple as that!

Social ideas such as "class" etc and "higher/lower" etc are based on rather dubious assumptions..

The handsome, virile and energetic man may not need financial wealth to get a good specimen..

The ugly bitch with lots of money may choose to "buy a stud"..




The rich have a surplus of "power" which is not just labour, it is the ability to access labour..

They have that...

Labour is just one manifestation of power..

That's ridiculous. Men love women based on personalities and physical attraction (to a lesser extent) not on what they can get out of women.

Women don't love men based on their talents and resources. They love those talents and resources. The man to whom they are attached makes very little difference to most women.