So, in the same vein as my last post about marriage advice, I am trying to articulate in plain English and in general, what the terms of a traditional marriage are or might be. I have something like a "contract" that is not supposed to sound too legal and that is not supposed to have a lot of extra cultural or religious aspects to it.

a) I am sure there is something out there much better that I just can't seem to find.
b) I doubt I have covered enough

I was wondering if you guys know of such a (reasonably secular, readable and general) "contract" or list of terms and/or what you would add or change to such a "contract" or to my "contract".

http://www.oplink.net/~adrian/terms.html

Adrian, I just read your proposed contract. I agree with it 100%!

In fact its identical to the way my husband and I do things, and its what we firmly believe in.

I realize this is a religious site, but you might find this interesting. They adhere to the identical view, except they add religion:

http://www.visionforum.com/about/

Good site Annette

I have an interesting and simple idea that will suit both MRA's Traditionalists, and Feminists..

Marraige means accepting male headship..

If you dont want it, dont do it!!

I've been saying that all along! A real marriage means the woman accepting male head!

Wait...you said "headSHIP"...Well, I think women should accept BOTH!

Traditional marriage is a horse that has bolted - methinks

Marriage means LESS stress for women
Marriage means MORE stress for men

Discuss!

From that femininist friendly masculinist unfriendly craprag The Daily Torygraph (sorry - I meant Telegraph) of 01 January 2008:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nhappy101.xml

That "agreement" document leaves out and ignores the fundamental meaning, basis, and purpose of marriage. It deals only with the trivia.

The basic agreement of marriage is:

Female agrees to accept sexual congress with her husband, to get pregnant, to bear his children, and to raise his children. She also agrees not to allow impregnation by other men.

The husband agrees to impregnate his wife and to protect and support her and his children while the children are being raised.

That, and only that, is the divinatory meaning and agreement of "marriage." A "marriage" is consummated only by the creation of children.
The feminazi law on "marital rape" or "rape of wife" denies the fundamental meaning and duties of marriage. When she says "I do" she has sworn her acceptance of sex. To claim that sex is then "rape" is to deny her sworn permission and agreement, and to deny the fundamental meaning of marriage.

The rest of who does what is greatly subject to economic conditions and culture. Marriage, however, transcends culture and economics.

Blessings

Bob

So, if they don't want children, they aren't married? What if one of them is infertile?

I didn't follow the link, but I really have to disagree with you there, Mercian.

I would also disagree because most women stress easy.
They just stress about everything. But a man will get much more stress from marriage.