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Old 15th-August-2006
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Anyway, on a more serious note, do even you, as a stoic female supporter of the concept of anti-feminism/misandry, have your own reservations about the MRM movement however slight they may be? It's not some silly test of loyalty or anything, it's just that I'm always striving to be as objective as I can be as I'm sure many, if not all on here, are too. The reason I ask, is because I feel it important, (as you so obviously do) for as many women to be responsive to our point of view, and hopefully be swayed by our, argument, for want of a better word. We as men, may or may not in the end decide as a collective to just want to go it alone, so to speak. Regardless, it's just that I believe that it gives an added sense of validity to our cause, if the emphasis is placed on unity, and that a degree of matual understanding between men and women in the long-term is of no small value. All this, as opposed to the other long-term alternative, of yet more gender separatism and as a consequence, yet more societal breakdown.

If you're at all curious about what I've mentioned, perhaps you may wish to cut and paste this reply to the KellyMac part of the forum, assuming you're at all moved to do so of course. Either way I apologise KM, for this naturally has absolutely nothing to do with Lois Lane.
Hmmm...I don't know that I really have any doubts per se about the movement.

Sometimes I do feel a little battered by the occasional extreme anger I run across, even though it's never been aimed at me. I'm getting better at just breathing through it and accepting that what I'm seeing is actually someone's pain. And the anger is justified. So there's that.

I think the thing that gives me the most pause is the reaction to my blog. I started out just trying to do my part, and I've received so unbelievably much encouragement and thanks, and I'm getting links all over the place, and it got kinda big kinda fast (big to me, at least). I am humbled on the one hand, and daunted on the other. I see it as a responsiblity now to keep posting, and I take it very seriously. I became an MRA without really intending to, but it seems I have some writing talent, and this is the contribution I can make. It's just a little overwhelming at the moment.

As I've said, I've only been involved for a short time, and unplugged very recently. There are 40 years of feminist doctrine I have to de-program and replace, so sometimes I ask a lot of questions. I appreciate very much the candid answers I receive. Sometimes I need to be hit really hard with the cluebat. (But just start with a bunt, ok???)


 
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Old 16th-August-2006
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Hi there KellyMac. May I first of all thank you for giving my reply your consideration.

In answer to what you've said, I'm extremely glad that you haven't come under any direct fire from male activists, at least thus far. As for the overwhelmingly positive reaction to what you'd written, that most certainly comes as little surprise to me.

I try to use a certain degree of humility as part of my approach here and so it's therefore important to me that you don't hesitate in using that cluebat yourself, if I for example, just don't get it. Just because I'm a men's activist (so-called), it doesn't mean that I personally possess all that is good and true. I myself, may also require a de-programming too in some respects.

I think that we as men, have a good case to make, but nevertheless I just wanted to attempt to further reassure you as a woman who actually sees things from our perspective, to have some idea of what is hoped for in terms of our ideals. Anything of real value in life, as you well know, has to be earned and trust is certainly no exception. I sincerely hope that we here and MRAs elsewhere, earn the trust that you have in us KM. The alternatives are pretty dire if the sexes fall out completely. To steal an observation from the film, The War of the Roses, there is no such thing as winning in a war between men and women, only degrees of losing. How true that's turning out to be.

You've given many MRAs the feeling that there is hope after all, and that it doesn't inevitably have to be a war along gender lines. That hope is what you represent in many respects. You may well feel that burden already as you yourself have already alluded to, but still, I hope that you manage to enjoy what you do nonetheless, rather than just feel the weight of the world on your shoulders instead. I'd wish you luck, but seeing some of the home runs you've struck on your blog already, I somehow doubt that you'll need it.


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You've given many MRAs the feeling that there is hope after all, and that it doesn't inevitably have to be a war along gender lines. That hope is what you represent in many respects. You may well feel that burden already as you yourself have already alluded to, but still, I hope that you manage to enjoy what you do nonetheless, rather than just feel the weight of the world on your shoulders instead. I'd wish you luck, but seeing some of the home runs you've struck on your blog already, I somehow doubt that you'll need it.
Thank you, sir. I like you. I don't know why...

I'm serious when I say it's the least I can do. I'm not the one being discriminated against. And feminism hurts us all.


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It's so refreshing to see a woman who views things from a males perspective.




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Feminuts are stupid, throw some common sense at them. They won't know what hit them.
 
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