This is a discussion on From Googling "What Is Feminism" within the KellyMac's forums, part of the Blogging Hub category; I said before that I would post what I’ve found on the internet about the definitions of feminism . Following ...
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I said before that I would post what I’ve found on the internet about the definitions of feminism. Following is a partial list. I tried to include only those definitions from feminist for feminist-friendly sites, to try to be as fair as possible. I did not include those I found – and there were many – that rambled on and on and never came to a point. For the record, I have to say that what I found relied quite a bit on ideological ideas that are presented as fact, with nothing to back them up. The two major ideas from this category are “oppression of women” and the “media presentation of feminism as a negative thing”. Note: The quotation marks I used above do not indicate that I have taken these expressions verbatim from something I found, but rather are names I have assigned to broad ideas I saw over and over again. FEMINISM 101 -- WHAT IS FEMINISM? In many ways, I suspect my feminism is fairly bourgeois. I don't want a revolution that doesn't allow me to dance, flirt, and buy shoes. On the other hand, my feminism is fairly absolute in that I will not allow myself (or others) to demonize "radical feminists" or to ignore poor women or women of color, and I object very strongly when I see women fighting with each other over crumbs. I'm sure I do it too, sometimes, but I try very hard not to. My feminism is material in the sense that I believe that the body is irreducible (more and more so, as I age, and more since becoming a mother). I do not believe that there are no differences between men and women; but I believe that what differences there are have been vastly exaggerated by social conditioning, and I reject essentialism. My feminism likes men, and is sympathetic to the ways that they, too, suffer from narrow definitions of gender. My feminism insists on being heard, and will not give up a fight, and will not back down. On the other hand, my feminism deplores unfairness, meanness, and insensitivity. I believe in principles, including the principle that people matter. I believe in forgiveness and second chances, and in teaching, and in learning; and I also believe in having high expectations and firm boundaries. My feminism is polemical but embraces ambiguities. My feminism is aggressive and protective. feminism: (a) a range of contemporary theoretical perspectives (political, sociological, legal, psychoanalytic, literary, philosophical) in which women's experiences are examined in relation to actual and perceived differences between the power and status of men and women; (b) a social justice movement in which issues of particular importance for women (e.g. domestic violence, pay equity, globalization) are analysed, understood, and addressed from feminist perspectives. In the 1970s and early 1980s, the term was often used in compounds such as "lesbian feminism" and "eco-feminism." feminism Feminism is both an intellectual commitment and a political movement that seeks justice for women and the end of sexism in all forms. "Feminism - I myself have never known what feminism is. I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat." -Rebecca West, 1913 1. The belief that women and men are, and have been, treated What is feminism? There have been three major “waves” of feminism thus far, the first rising as recently as the 19th century. Feminism is an awareness that dawned openly as a response to the Abolition Movement in the mid-nineteenth century and it has matured over the last century. Currently, there are many different expressions of feminism, but the core value of feminism remains. To be feminist is to actively recognize the need for, and work to create equality for women. By definition, there is no dependence upon female superiority, man-hating, or other negative approaches toward equality. Feminism is simply a movement intending to enlighten people with a goal of improving the quality of life for women and their society. However, many people possess images of feminism that fit into the previously mentioned destructive patterns. The confusion about feminism is a result of many factors. Declaring a person is a feminist is like declaring a person is religious. It’s a vague title. Throughout history, women have always struggled to gain equality, respect, and the same rights as men. This has been difficult because of patriarchy, an ideology in which men are superior to women and have the right to rule women. This ideology has permeated the social structures of societies throughout the world and as a result, even in the new millennium, women are still struggling for rights that most men take for granted. The struggle was even more difficult for women of color because not only were they dealing with issues of sexism, but also racism. In order to fight patriarchy, feminism and feminist theory was born. I think that's a pretty broad assortment of sites. Does any of it ring true to those of you who call yourselves feminists? More... | ||||
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Let's analyze these comments.. Should we start with the half truths or obvious bullshit? I'm afraid we don't have enough time.
Thomas Jefferson once said "It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good." Feminuts are stupid, throw some common sense at them. They won't know what hit them. | ||||
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The definitions of feminism aren't too bad - but it's the ACTIONS of feminism we need to investigate, not the claims.
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Look what I attracted to this thread. I'm not sure, but I think Kathy is confused. Quote:
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All this realy says is that "feminism"is nothing that can be defined...it is an intangible...it is all things to all people. In classical Greek philosophy, it was inderstood that human conflicts could not be resolved by clarification of word "definitions". If, for instance, you were to dump a shaker of salt on to a table, you would have a "pile" of salt. Take away one grain you still have a "pile"...take away two grains you still have a "pile"...at what point does it cease to be a pile? We could take each of these indefinite definitions and do a "deconstructionist" exercise on them one at a time but that would be wasted effort. What really matters is how are these ideas translated into public policy. It has been a lifetimes study on my part as to how people form beliefs and how are beliefs changed....logic never changes anybody's mind about anything...even though this is the conventional wisdom on the subject. Blaise Pascal made the observation that anyone was capable of walking a plank a foot wide when it is on the ground...but when it is a hundred feet above the ground that is another matter. What we fear to be possible has much more impact on our actions that what we reason to be so. People are motivated by hope and fear....not by logic or reason.
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Well, I've done it now. Looks like my little experiment turned out to be a stillbirth. Quote:
"I told you so." I was warned. I went in with eyes open. Looks like "Against Feminism" will go back into the title. I want to digest it all first, though. | ||||
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