Bob doesnt seem to be as prominent as he was when he was active years ago.. Again, as a result of his own personal experiences which always seems to dominate much of the work of fathers activists.. Unfortunately folks can easily invalidate even good old Sir Bob, especially as he was criticised at the time for having the luxury of no possibility of the mother speaking her side of the story.. Death has a funny way of silencing folks.. What exactly do these many interest groups who want a slice of the childrens lives want the state to do to enable it?

The positions of grandparents and mothers and others are not the same as fathers, but for sure, when fathers where in their rightful place as heads of their families in marraige we didnt need all these groups asking for "rights" because fathers granted them..

http://www.maturetimes.co.uk/campaigns/grandparents.html

Funny where you find unexpected support!

Grandparents rights



I hoped Sir Bob would coment once more as one word from him in a newspaper or on TV is worth 100 of ours, however I also hope many of us can keep the momentum up on James Whale as LBC is a London based Radio station and has the ear of the nearby Parliamentarians so who knows in time someone may get the message?

With more time on their hands I hope the silver surfers

take on the challenge!

Grandparents are a selfish lot in the main.. That is what I have noted.. What do they want? I am sure they could get what is right if the fathers are allowed to do their duties.. It was their generation that sat back and watched the state destroy the family eh?

Sadley I think you are right!

They want to see their grandkids when it suits them, as in hardly ever usually, and when they could be useful for fathers in "the shit" of divorce, they are not that bothered about doing what they can.. They they gripe when they cant see them, but when you set it up for them they have an excuse.. Not to mention always taking the womans side against their own sons etc.. If they have several batches of grand children, they showed a preferrence for some over others.. No wonder the state would rather give those useless old tossers "rights" than fathers.. They would rack up millions for the lawyers in time wasting legal fees.. And another way to subsidied the single mothers..

Obvious but yeah!

When the father is sorted, the rest of the family is usually sorted too! Men are fair minded and don't usually use kids as weapons, they dont need to, unlike mothers..

I have nothing further to say here but I did not want Felixblue having the last word LOL