Welcome to the forum, young woman.

I am a man but less a masculinist than a humanist.

I advocate for men's rights because of the discrimination in law against men. I have no problem with considering women as equal to men before the Law and before God.

Feminism lies.

Feminists may say they want equal rights, inclusive of men, but their actions say the opposite and cause the opposite.

The Law has been manipulated by feminists to favour women over men. This is not equality.

It is an unfortunate consequence of feminist action that fine, caring men such as myself, no longer trust women to share the bed of life as nature intended. Good women may seem to deserve men's trust but their vocal (and successfully so) sisters have shat in the bed. Trust is all but impossible due to the smell.

It will be up to your generation to change the sheets, do some washing and apologise. And show it was an inadvertent poop that popped out. You can win back our favour.

I hope you are up to the task.

I can understand where your coming from. For me, it's hard to win men's trust when they have been treated the wrong way but not alot of people see it. I can defend their rights all I want but it's not easy to win trust, I know how it is. I want to be able to stand by men's rights but not make it seem that I don't want women to have rights. Of course I want to have the same rights, but when I say the same rights, i mean the exact same rights, no more no less.

I finally got to put down all of my views here: My first blog on my views - Blogs - antimisandry.com

Welcome

we have all sorts on this site so feel free to browse.

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Welcome! You remind me of myself! I have been into men's rights for about 20 years now. 20 years ago I thought that I was the only person, male or female, who was angry about the double standards. It was so good to find a masculinist group on yahoogroups and then to find women who felt the same way as I do. I don't come on here often and am not a registered member but it's great to see more females supporting REAL equality.

I think that the vast majority of people would support “True equality” therefore, it is obvious that the public are being deceived by a small group of people, who are pushing their own, “Evil political agenda” for their own sake.

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Welcome! You remind me of myself! I have been into men's rights for about 20 years now. 20 years ago I thought that I was the only person, male or female, who was angry about the double standards. It was so good to find a masculinist group on yahoogroups and then to find women who felt the same way as I do. I don't come on here often and am not a registered member but it's great to see more females supporting REAL equality.

I think that the vast majority of people would support “True equality” therefore, it is obvious that the public are being deceived by a small group of people, who are pushing their own, “Evil political agenda” for their own sake.

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I'm new to this place (obviously), and I came here via Google because I wanted to see if there was anyone else out there like myself who are more so for men's rights.

I think that you are very wise to see through the evil of “Feminism” you may find the following of interest......

Aaron Russo produced the films, “Trading places” starring Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, and “The Rose” starring Bette Midler.

Aaron is also the director of “America From Freedom to Fascism” he was approached for his opinions by a younger member of the Rockefeller family in 1995.

"He asked me what I thought of the 'women's movement,' and I told him that I support equal opportunity,"

Russo continues, "He looked at me and said, 'You know, you're such an idiot in some ways. We' - meaning the people he works with - created the women's movement, and we promote it.

And it's not about equal opportunity. It's designed to get both parents out of the home and into the workforce, where they will pay taxes.

And then we can decide how the children will be raised and educated.'

That's how they control society - by removing the parents from the home and then raising the children as the elitists see fit."

I would greatly encourage you to watch the video “America From Freedom to Fascism” on YouTube.
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The female vote.

The right for women to vote now seems as American as “All you can eat buffets” and “Wal Mart.”

Try suggesting to a typical God fearing, flag waving, Republican and Tea Party conservative, that giving the vote to women was a “Bad idea,” and watch him recoil in horror like a vampire looking at a cross.

To even think of such a notion is anathema and un American, after all, our brave troops are fighting the evil Muslims in the Middle East to protect our right to vote.

And yet, for most of America’s history the vast majority of men, and women, were opposed to women’s suffrage.

So, were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln all secret women haters ? Or might they have had another reason to oppose female suffrage?

The 19th Century Argument Against Suffrage.
Most of the arguments against female suffrage have now gone down the memory hole.

School children are now taught that suffrage was inevitable and the people who opposed suffrage in the prior generations were simply backwards and ignorant.

Because it is obviously axiomatic that female suffrage is a good thing. To even debate the subject would be crazy. As such, historical writings against suffrage are ignored and buried.

However, extracted from the depths of time is an essay written by a woman who was opposed to suffrage. This essay detailed the logical reasons why female suffrage would harm America.
Thoughts on Female Suffrage.
By Madeline Dahlgren, 1871.

“We acknowledge no inferiority to men. We claim to have no less ability to perform the duty God has imposed upon us, than they (Men) have to perform those imposed upon them.

We believe that God has wisely and well adapted each sex to the proper performance of the duties of each. We believe our trusts to be as important and sacred as any that exist.

It is our fathers, brothers, husbands and sons who represent us at the ballot box. Our fathers and husbands love us. Our sons are what we make them.

We are content that they represent us in the corn field, the battle -field and the ballot box, and we them in the school room, at the fireside, and at the cradle; believing our representation, even at the ballot box, to be thus more full and impartial that it could possibly be were all women allowed to vote.”

Notice that it was assumed that men and women have different biological natures and, as such, God has given men and women different responsibilities.

The notion that sex is just a social construct would have been considered to be absurd. Also notice the frequent references to religion. Prior to the Cultural Marxist revolution (Cultural Marxism abhors Christianity) Christian ideals were appealed to in an unapologetic manner.

The basic argument against female suffrage was that women were represented by their husbands, fathers and sons at the ballot box.

The essay further argues that as mothers raised their sons (this was before mothers warehoused their children in daycare to pursue their corporate careers) women actually fundamentally shaped the character of men, and hence, the direction of America. As such, women had a powerful voice and they were represented.

Later in the essay, Dahlgren predicted that female suffrage would create competition between men and women which would create an antagonism.

Instead of a family standing in unity, suffrage would divide the house. Such division would create discord into the family and weaken the marriage tie. Dahlgren predicted that divorce would become common if women were given the vote.

Dahlgren writes:
“We hold that the new status will prove to be the worst kind of communism. The relations between the sexes, so carefully guarded by religion and by parents, by law and by society, will become common and therefore corrupt.

The family, the foundation of the State, will disappear. The mothers, sisters and daughters of our glorious past will exist no more and the female gender will vanish into epicene.”

“Epicene” = The woman will cease to be different from the male, both sexes will become alike.

As a contemporary of Marx, Dahlgren correctly identified that the push for female suffrage was Marxist in origin.

Fifty years later the Cultural Marxists implicitly agreed with Dahlgren that the best way to destroy Western Civilization (aka Christendom) was to undermine the family.

And the seeds that were planted in the 19th amendment paved the way for the spawning of what would be known as “Feminism.”

The people opposed to female suffrage proved to be right beyond their wildest predictions. As Google was celebrating the 19th amendment, a British newspaper detailed the boasting of a 26 year old woman who claims to have had sex with 5,000 different men.

If Madeline Dahlgren were alive today, I am sure she would have understood the connection between female suffrage in the West and the decline of civilization.

Single mothers, rampant divorce, abortion and falling birth rates are part of the cancer that is destroying what is left of Western Civilization.

But very few people (Even conservatives) fail to realize that the inception of this cancer can be found in the passage of the 19th amendment.

Source: The Spearhead.

Welcome.

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I chose the term masculisim because I focus more on men's rights, which it's a dwindling issue.

We recently had a debate with a feminist on this forum about Masculanism (I just had to add that to my spell checker). Most of us discovered that we were not masculists by a feminist definition. We are for the rights of everyone, regardless of what genitals they have.

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Can someone give me a non-biased definition of feminism and what I really does?

Very difficult. MRAs will have anti-feminist views, feminists promote pro-feminist views. Most people who don't know the facts have probably swallowed the feminist version, but that doesn't make it "non-biased." And for almost every definition, you will find someone saying "not all feminists are like that."

One thing I have noticed that is common among every feminist literature and current website. Somewhere along the line you will meet a statement like this:
"I am/we are about equal rights for women."

Have a think about that. Imagine that everyone is a drop of water and society is a bucket. There we all are, all mixed up in the bucket, just like we are a mass of people living together in society. Now, try to make just half of the contents of that bucket of water equal. 'Equal to what?' is an obvious question, isn't it (along with how the heck are you supposed to do it). OK, try to make just half the people in society equal. Does it make any more sense now? No? Well, try making everyone in society equal. That at least sounds a bit more logical, even if you don't think it is desirable.

But back to your question. The best overall definition of feminism is "making equal rights for women" and don't blame me that it doesn't even make sense.

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Quote from Haruhi Kenoko

I want to be able to stand by men's rights but not make it seem that I don't want women to have rights. Of course I want to have the same rights, but when I say the same rights, i mean the exact same rights, no more no less.

A belief in completely equal rights regardless of sex would mean that you are an egalitarian.

Some 'teaser' questions for your mind:
Should men have the same rights to natal care as women, even though their need is far less?
Should women have the same rights to longevity research as men, even though they already live many years more?

I would want everyone to be equal. Oh and what about my last question>

Same with chauvinism? (Which I kinda don't mind, I like Dick Masterson lol)

Re the quotes above.

It is well to recall that back in the days when 'men' had the vote and woman did not, it was one vote per property owner. If there were three men and three woman in a household, only one vote was cast. Two men were not able to vote.

Now even the halfwit in the attic gets a vote.

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I would want everyone to be equal.

Regardless of natural ability or personal effort? I just want to be clear I understand you, especially as I personally believe that individual effort should be rewarded and social cohesion encouraged: which really means encouraging difference and legislating for social norms while allowing for variance.

Should a layabout be equal to an Olympic runner?
Should a child murderer be equal to a caring parent?
Should a short person be equal to a tall person in a basketball team?
Should a strong person be equal to a weak person in a mining job?

Can these people be equal, never mind how we define laws trying to make it so?

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Same with chauvinism? (Which I kinda don't mind, I like Dick Masterson lol)

That's a difficult one to answer because it depends on what you mean.

'Chauvinism' is a word so corrupted by feminist writings and mantra that some dictionaries are even having to distinguish 'male chauvinism' from 'chauvinism.' Like the meaningless and ungrammatical phrase "the patriarchy," chauvinism has been disparaged by semi-literate feminists as though it is wrong. Yet feminists are one of the most chauvinistic people around!

chauvinism
noun
2. biased devotion to any group, attitude, or cause.

There is nothing wrong with being biased about things, so long as you are not blinded by it. Being biased and devoted towards your own family, friends and even work can lead to a healthy society so long as you remain aware of faults and shortcomings. Being biased towards those like you, by skin colour, sex, nationality, religion, etc. is natural and normal.

On the other hand, the definition promoted by feminism is entirely different and includes only a tiny minority of men:

male chauvinism
noun
the beliefs, attitudes, or behavior of male chauvinists (men who patronize, disparage, or otherwise denigrate females in the belief that they are inferior to males and thus deserving of less than equal treatment or benefit).

While I have conversed with men AND women on the Internet who purport to hold such views, I do not know a single person in real life who denigrate females in the belief that they are generally inferior to males, though many believe females are typically inferior in specific ways, just as they believe males are typically inferior in specific ways: i.e. they believe the sexes are different.

Equal meaning basic rights. Everyone should have an equal opportunity but not equal outcomes. Everyone is different. As long as I can vote and have an opinion and join manly conversations as if I was one, then it's good for me.

I was speaking of male chauvinism, this to be exact:



and I hope im not the only one on here who's heard of this guy lol

I've heard of Dick.

I think that's his stage name. His real name is Dax Herrera. Also, I may be wrong, but I've read that his whole "hatred of women" schtick is for shock value. In other words, he likes women a lot more than he lets on.

It appears that the shock factor is his way of satirizing the myriad feminist websites which have as much (and in many cases more) vitriol as he sarcastically dishes out.

I think he's for real meaning he has a book on why men are better. I agree that men are better tho. lol

Dick is awesome.

Hello and welcome,

Don't worry about other people's reaction to your opinions outside of AM. I get a few kinds of opposition from my anti-feminist views on Facebook and YouTube (especially from females), especially since I am also female. One thought I was "young, clueless, and don't know how the world works," and she even mocked me saying "I give up! Let's remove all women's rights!" Another said that no one gives a d*** about what I say, and I need to get my "sensitive *** outta here," just because I was offended by her misandric joke to my male friend and I stood up for him. The rest of them really think I'm brainwashed and degrading myself. No, seriously. It's as if they try to convince me to go back to being feminist again. These feminist oppositions turn into arguments, and I just gave up 'arguing' with them--especially if they are females. It's always the females that go against me. They guys cheer me on. I don't know why women don't want to walk in another person's shoes...Am I a threat to them? Obviously, if they are that ardent on defending their dangerous views.

Also, the more people (regardless of gender/sex) who abandon and reject feminism, the better. It's nice to meet you.

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I think he's for real meaning he has a book on why men are better. I agree that men are better tho. lol

Oh ok.

To say that men are better, even in just some things, is like giving kryptonite to Superman or throwing a grenade into a warehouse full of fireworks.

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Hello and welcome,

Don't worry about other people's reaction to your opinions outside of AM. I get a few kinds of opposition from my anti-feminist views on Facebook and YouTube (especially from females), especially since I am also female. One thought I was "young, clueless, and don't know how the world works," and she even mocked me saying "I give up! Let's remove all women's rights!" Another said that no one gives a d*** about what I say, and I need to get my "sensitive *** outta here," just because I was offended by her misandric joke to my male friend and I stood up for him. The rest of them really think I'm brainwashed and degrading myself. No, seriously. It's as if they try to convince me to go back to being feminist again. These feminist oppositions turn into arguments, and I just gave up 'arguing' with them--especially if they are females. It's always the females that go against me. They guys cheer me on. I don't know why women don't want to walk in another person's shoes...Am I a threat to them? Obviously, if they are that ardent on defending their dangerous views.

Also, the more people (regardless of gender/sex) who abandon and reject feminism, the better. It's nice to meet you.

Speaking of shoes, the feminists sure want men to walk a mile in theirs.