Thread: Mourning the great decline of masculinity.

Welcome aboard... but in our experience, feminism & misandry go together. Be prepared for some hot tempers fired your direction...

welcome

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Welcome aboard... but in our experience, feminism & misandry go together. Be prepared for some hot tempers fired your direction...

Thank you Marx.

Just to reiterate - I am not a feminist in the contemporary (or bastardized) sense of the word. Feminism in it's current form by it's very nature is the practice of self loathing and an even greater loathing of men. No longer is it simply about suffrage and being treated with dignity, which is the point were I get off the bus.

I'll be interested to hear more of your opinions.

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I'm a woman. I'm intelligent, capable and an equal rights 'feminist' who identifies with the firstwave of women's rights. But do you know what I hate? Matriarchy and misandry.

The traditional concept of masculinity has become a social taboo. Now, I for one, as a female, love masculinity - It's only natural to admire the ying to your own yang.

I'm sick of the indoctrination of both the sexes. We're all being brainwashed into believing that all traits of masculinity are destructive and undesirable. And at the same time the same feminazis are telling all us 'weak willed' women that traditional femininity is equally as undesirable. What we've ended-up with are feminized men and more masculized women. Quite simply put - If I wanted someone with a 'feminine side', I'd pair up with another woman.

Being told how to act and what to do by other women isn't any different from being dictated by men, but those women never seem to realize that. They tell us we can think for ourselves, but we know that's far from the truth.

Anti-misandrists - You have this girl's respect and support.

I hope you don't turn out to be one of those types that claim to side with men, and then bash them later on. I have come across many women who turn out to be that way. The women on this site are a great exception because they show that they care about us men and our plight, our enemy is their enemy also, feminazism which is predominantly misandry but is also misogyny as well . And about the whole yin and yang concept, Yin stands for Feminine, and Yang stands for Masculine. We are in serious trouble as a species, and this is something none of us have asked for. Feminazis feel that they should dictate how men and women live their lives, and I would want nothing more than to see them wiped off the face of the Earth.

Hello and welcome.

I think that you are very wise to see through the evil of “Feminism” you may find the following of interest.


Aaron Russo produced the films, “Trading places” starring Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, and “The Rose” starring Bette Midler.


Aaron is also the director of “America From Freedom to Fascism” he was approached for his opinions by a younger member of the Rockefeller family in 1995.


"He asked me what I thought of the 'women's movement,' and I told him that I support equal opportunity,"


Russo continues, "He looked at me and said, 'You know, you're such an idiot in some ways. We' - meaning the people he works with - created the women's movement, and we promote it.


And it's not about equal opportunity. It's designed to get both parents out of the home and into the workforce, where they will pay taxes.


And then we can decide how the children will be raised and educated.'


That's how they control society - by removing the parents from the home and then raising the children as the elitists see fit."



I would greatly encourage you to watch “America From Freedom to Fascism”...
VIDEO.

Welcome to the forums.

Welcome.

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I'm a woman. I'm intelligent, capable and an equal rights 'feminist' who identifies with the firstwave of women's rights.

The words 'equal rights' and 'feminist' are conflicting and thoroughly contradictory terms. Your fluffy brand of feminism is historically defunct and has no prominence whatsoever within positions of power that influence the daily lives of the population, nor would it ever breach the hold radical misandric feminism has within the halls of power.

Why the compulsion to cling on to such a contentious descriptive (feminist) which has wrought so much social misery and devastation? Why not purge the associated stench once and for all?

That said, the extreme left have hijacked equal/human rights organizations and busied themselves redefining what and to whom these rights apply. No surprises then, that men, particularly white, heterosexual men, aren't included.

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Welcome.



The words 'equal rights' and 'feminist' are conflicting and thoroughly contradictory terms. Your fluffy brand of feminism is historically defunct and has no prominence whatsoever within positions of power that influence the daily lives of the population, nor would it ever breach the hold radical misandric feminism has within the halls of power.

Why the compulsion to cling on to such a contentious descriptive (feminist) which has wrought so much social misery and devastation? Why not purge the associated stench once and for all?

That said, the extreme left have hijacked equal/human rights organizations and busied themselves redefining what and to whom these rights apply. No surprises then, that men, particularly white, heterosexual men, aren't included.

An excellent post.

Madraykin, you could call yourself, "A person who believes in equality," and drop the word "Feminist."

Greetings madraykin. Thanks for joining!

Why don't you use the term women's rights activist instead of feminist? Feminism has been hijacked by radicals whom haven't been openly denounced to date. This says something about the state of feminism. It would be better if you use a different term.

As for me I support women and men's rights, but not feminism.

Actually ifeminism would be a good moniker for this lady's ideology.

It is really interesting how the vast majority of new female members who come on this site refer to themselves as feminists. I find it really peculiar how women such as yourself call yourselves "equal rights" feminists. What the hell is that supposed to mean anyway. Why don't you drop the feminist label? You expect Men's Rights Actvists to make a truce with feminists? I am sorry, but I am not moved by your words.

One thing that bothers me about the attack on masculinity is the subtleness of it. By that, I mean that masculinity is under attack because it is politically incorrect merely to define it, and so the concept of masculinity itself loses its meaning. That is as potent of an attack as any. So many men are emasculated in our culture because they have no positive ideal of masculinity to aspire to; it's considered taboo to even explore the question of what masculinity means. What is behind this phenomenon of deconstructing masculinity is anti-male sexism -- properly called misandry. The reason why is is misandry to deconstruct a clear definition of masculinity is because masculinity is a distinguishing characteristic of males. Masculinity is maleness. So when you tear down the distinctiveness of masculinity, you attack the identity of men. The relationship between this phenomenon and misandry is tightly intertwined. When someone attacks masculinity they undermine male identity; this steadily discredits the legitimacy of any form of male authority and ultimately leads to the disempowerment of males. Males have a distinctiveness about them that should be identified and also valued.

To fix the situation, I think it's important for us to shore up a positive, clear and unfragmented definition of masculinity and what it means for a man to be the best man that he can be. Madraykin, what images go through your mind when you think of the word "masculinity?" As you are a self-described feminist, I am very interested to know how your feminist ideals influence your perception of masculinity.

Hmmm, John Dias, I'm not sure if deconstruction of masculinity is the problem. The problem is more that others are trying to define it for us: "Be a real man", "man up".

Oh before I forget: welcome Madraykin!

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Actually ifeminism would be a good moniker for this lady's ideology.

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It is really interesting how the vast majority of new female members who come on this site refer to themselves as feminists. I find it really peculiar how women such as yourself call yourselves "equal rights" feminists. What the hell is that supposed to mean anyway. Why don't you drop the feminist label? You expect Men's Rights Actvists to make a truce with feminists? I am sorry, but I am not moved by your words.

I am known for encouraging the distinction between women and feminists. I believe it is both incorrect and unhelpful for the plight of men to group them together and blame all women for feminism (and, by implication, not blame any men).

That said, I encourage anyone - male and female - to distance themselves from concepts like "feminism" and "feminist" as much as possible unless you believe in female supremacy and have a distaste of men and masculinity.

I encourage you not to call yourself any kind of "feminist" unless you believe in the social illness that is feminism.

My reasons:

1) To achieve balance and fairness/egalitarianism in society, we have to undo all that feminism has brought upon our society (note: that is not undoing suffrage, nor equal pay, nor...). To be able to quickly undo everything that can be associated with feminism, it is important not to muddy what feminism is by using the same word for any other purpose.

2) To those aware of the misandry and social damage caused by feminist ideology, there is a psychological effect on someone saying they are feminist. This can be seen all over this board when people say they are a "feminist but..." or a "moderate feminist" or an "ifeminist". It's not that people can't read, nor that they consciously ignore the qualification of feminism. But the emotional effect and the mental association with a damaging policy is made first, before any consideration of what might be before or after "feminist."

3) If someone doesn't believe in at least some of the reality of feminism they have no need to associate with it at all. It is not in any way important that they believe in what feminists have sometimes claimed about feminism: if someone really is aware of what feminism is and disagrees with it, then they should also be aware that it has achieved its ends by lying.

4) I've yet to find any variant of feminism that doesn't centre around the claim of "looking after women's interests." It's true that caring for women is important but why not also for men? Why is a woman's suffering more or less important than a man's? (If people on this site, in campaigning for men's rights and fairness for men, completely ignore women's suffering and do not care about suffering regardless of gender, they will fall into the feminist-conceived gender war.) While being aware of the gender inequalities around us, our campaigns should always focus on the rights of everyone in society, regardless of race, creed, colour or gender. It is gynocentric activities that lead to matters like disaster relief only giving food to women and letting men starve. Only in matters only pertaining to women - such as childbirth - can there be a real reason to concentrate only on women's issues.

In conclusion, unless you really are suffering from having feminist beliefs, don't call yourself any kind of a feminist. If you're not sure, or you think that maybe you are suffering from feminism and are seeking help, then this site can be a good place to help you understand about feminism and may be a first step to the cure. In the meantime you'll have to accept the natural and automatic "anti" levelled on any kind of feminist.