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You should know that women's rights is one group, child's rights another group and men's right yet another.

But why should it be? Are we not all human?

Didn't we see the horror that unfolded at the Haiti disaster in 2010, and how men and boys were treated like subhuman creatures following that concept of divide?

It's not only a family destroying mechanism employed by white middle-classed feminists, ensconced in humanitarian organisations, far removed from third-world reality, but an opportunity to permanently entrench ideology through western aid which has financial stipulations linked to how third-world men behave, or rather submit.

Feminism in third-world countries is just the latest form of (perverse) colonialism.

To Andy Man, thank you for putting that so eloquently. I hadn't thought of things that way, that it really should be rights as a PERSON, not as a gender. May I have your permission to put that comment in the article? -and just as an FYI, I will be making sure any participants get to read the article first, so as to make sure I haven't misquoted or missed something.

Seems fair to me...

Douglas, Thank you for the link to "Outdoors". And I completely agree with you in regards to the points you brought up. Women usually DO have the upper hand when it comes to child custody. I've always been a believer that both parents (except in cases such as abuse, etc. - male or female) should share equal custody. Both legal and physical. May I also use your comment in my article?

Krystina, on topic.
Also the word "abuse" has twisted meaning, today. A woman that denies a son/daughter a meaningful relationship with the father, is not abuse...is not a form of kidnapping?...
Regarding the CSA you use the romantic sentence "women usually have the upper....; well change "usually" with "constantly" and "the upper" with "all". The CSA and the whole legistlation around family, empower a woman to become a lawful criminal; undesrtanding the "men's" issue would be very easy, simply putting in man shoes and figuring what is the life of a man after a divorce and the law enforcement of CSA and alimony duties. I do not really understand how women do not feel ashamed for what they have built, and countinue to lobby for. And stll they come and say "we are mother, daughters....we love men...it's just that there is something wrong in the law..."...the usual stuff we ALL know, .do one thing and tell the opposite, never take accountability and possibly put the blame elsewhere. It seems anger? It is, legitimate and sane anger.

I appreciate you all taking the time to give me information..You know, I have a little boy. He's a big part of the reason I do my advocacy. Because I'd hate to see him lose rights or not even have rights that should have been there in the first place. I know I can't change the world or other people's minds, but I do know that I can at least do my part to make sure the information is out there for whoever might need it.

MY BEST WHISHES to your son. He will have very tough times when he will realize that he is a second class citizen, and the whole system has been shifted to act against him in all stages of his life.

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Hi all,

I learned about this site through a men's rights group on Twitter. I'm an equal rights activist/advocate (for everyone, not just for one gender, age, etc.). I had asked them if they knew of anyone who might be willing to give me their point of view on what's happened to their rights..especially over the last couple of years leading up to the current election..How they've been affected, what rights have been taken away, how the government is working towards either helping them retain their rights or if they're being withheld, etc.. I have a blog article I'm researching now and would love to have the opportunity to get some stories? If not, I completely understand...but I hope I can get a little bit of information..I do believe that men have been overlooked in regards to certain rights, and getting the word out is important. Yes, I also fight for women's and children's rights, but I believe that everyone deserves equality. I don't know if I'm allowed to post the email I use when I'm doing research on here?

I hope to hear from some of you soon,

With the utmost respect,

Krystina.

You are talking about the U.S. election obviously.

May I be so brazen to ask what rights for women in Canada that you fight for?

Seems to me they already have complete and utter domination in every aspect of Canadian life.

Please tell me what rights are they lacking in Canada?

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I've always been a believer that both parents (except in cases such as abuse, etc. - male or female)

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This is another fallacy,when men and women fight,it is generally between the two.


In my area if a woman is violent and physically attacks her partner,the police will help her take the children to a battered women's shelter and then do everything including perversing the course of justice in an effort to hold the man responsible.

Violence between the two generally does not include violence against the children. If it does,we need only look at the stats that clearly show who the primary child abuser's are,yet women still win custody 90% of the time-regardless.

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Hi all,

I learned about this site through a men's rights group on Twitter. I'm an equal rights activist/advocate (for everyone, not just for one gender, age, etc.). I had asked them if they knew of anyone who might be willing to give me their point of view on what's happened to their rights..especially over the last couple of years leading up to the current election..How they've been affected, what rights have been taken away, how the government is working towards either helping them retain their rights or if they're being withheld, etc.. I have a blog article I'm researching now and would love to have the opportunity to get some stories? If not, I completely understand...but I hope I can get a little bit of information..I do believe that men have been overlooked in regards to certain rights, and getting the word out is important. Yes, I also fight for women's and children's rights, but I believe that everyone deserves equality. I don't know if I'm allowed to post the email I use when I'm doing research on here?

I hope to hear from some of you soon,

With the utmost respect,

Krystina.

Rights?

Rights seem to have become like a game of Top Trumps ..... womens rights, gay rights, lesbian rights, children's rights, minorities rights, disabled rights, it's all just special privileges that can be claimed if one can identify as part of one of these special interest groups.

Who grants these rights, who decides what rights we should and should not have.

It's not so much that men have had rights taken away, more that all these groups have special rights that trump them and you only need turn on your telly or radio, open a newspaper, switch on your computer to hear/see feminists demanding that women need more of this and more of that and that "society" should bend over backwards to give it to them, the same goes for the other groups looking for a larger piece of rights pie.......mmmmm pie!

Why do these people feel they need special provisions?.... of course that's a rhetorical question because we know that the answer is, that white heterosexual blokes are holding them down, but who's really holding who down? look around, who sweeps the streets, fixes the sewers, builds the houses, trains, cars, buses, keeps the power on, digs the coal, extracts the oil, gold and other minerals, defends our shores and airspace? still predominantly white blokes as far as I can see.....and yet we're constantly scolded, denigrated, told we're greedy and selfish "privileged" for doing our jobs, in our society, the society that we are part of, built by our forefathers (and mothers) and ever more of the money that we "selfishly" earn is siphoned off and earmarked for programs to benefit the special needs groups.

We don't mind paying in, we don't mind helping folk out, we do it all the time and don't even want any praise for it, but to be treated so shabbily for it .........

Schools set up to give girls the absolute maximum chance of success whilst any detrimental affect on boys is ignored or worse still used as proof of girls superiority, the higher enrollment rate of women in university hailed as a great success while once when mens enrollment rate was higher it was discrimination, plain and simple!

Sentencing discounts for women criminals because, you know, when a woman commits a crime its just somehow not so bad, in fact in the UK there is serious consideration given to shutting womens prisons down altogether.

When applying for a job all blokes know that a certain amount of jobs are set asides for "diversity" points, we know we don't stand a chance of getting certain jobs especially in the public sector and your application will go straight into the big round filing cabinet.

Health care disparities, life span gaps, pension age and on and on....

Womens nights, womens centers, womens hour, womens groups, mens spaces closed down picketed labeled as misogynist until they cave to the unrelenting pressure of womens demands to be included ......

Western nations are now being run on these groups agendas, politicians are always mindful that giving in to their demands will bring votes and votes bring power and that power will only remain in their hands as long as they say and do the right things, so claims of the west is run by old white dudes looking out for other white dudes are a bit hollow ....... so why are there not more women and minorities in positions of power? well probably because they don't really need to be.

so much for "white male privilege"

So.....?

Where did Krystinaj1 go?

Hi all, apologies for not being around to comment or respond..my little guy was sick, so I had to focus on him. I've read all your replies. And Thank you..Not all of it was easy to hear, but if I wanted easy I'd just go play a game on Facebook. I figured that the best way to maybe explain myself better...and maybe get you to understand that I'm really here to understand and focus on issues that need to be focused on, here's my intro blog post for the series I want to do for this. The War on Equality- An Ordinary Woman's View.: The War On Equality...A Man's Point of View - an Intro to a Multi-Part Series I hope this helps, but if you feel it doesn't feel free to let me know, and I'll make sure not to use anything you have written.

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Hi all, apologies for not being around to comment or respond..my little guy was sick, so I had to focus on him.

children are our priority as well, that's why we are here

I've read all your replies. And Thank you..Not all of it was easy to hear, but if I wanted easy I'd just go play a game on Facebook

most of what you'll read will be hard to read, that's why we use to say "take the red pill"...sorry but we rarely put sugar on it

I figured that the best way to maybe explain myself better...and maybe get you to understand that I'm really here to understand and focus on issues that need to be focused on, here's my intro blog post for the series I want to do for this. The War on Equality- An Ordinary Woman's View.: The War On Equality...A Man's Point of View - an Intro to a Multi-Part Series I hope this helps, but if you feel it doesn't feel free to let me know, and I'll make sure not to use anything you have written.

I've read the introductory post, I appreciated it, overall. Actually I simply I do not like categories, and I have serious troubles in getting the meaning of right. But it is my fault.

If you will "survive" this site, you will not only discover interesting stories, but also profound thoughts that are not allowed to be presented in public.
In few years time, as your little boy will grow, you will start noticing awful things, and then it might be that you feel the need to change them. Then you will start to discuss in private and in public and advocate against the same people that now you perceive as "women" rights or "equality" advocates.
One day you will send a letter to a media (TV or newspaper) protesting for how men and boys are treated and surprisingly that letter will have no reply, or worst, will be used against you.
The day after you will publish a comment on a blog hosted by a newspaper criticizing women or simply exposing discriminating behaviors/laws against men, and you will never see it published, you will be blamed for misogyny and likely banned.
Then you find a couple of hours and decide to contribute to the wiki world publishing a different view of feminism; you go on wikipedia and while you type you will maybe notice that misandry is not a recognized word from the online browser vocabulary (?); finally your post is done, and after a few minutes you will notice that your post magically disappeared, and your point of view is relayed to the feminism official page, where no other views are allowed than the official ones...the ones imposed by the owner of the "word" feminism, a feminist group which is allowed to have a "feminist portal", betraying the mandate of Wikipedia (which is a knowledge sharing site not a propaganda site, where all contributors should be on the same level) and violating the rules of providing non biased, objective and as much as possible accurate information. Do not believe it? Try to post something....
You get upset, and since maybe you are an active individual in politics, you decide to pose the problem of discrimination against men to a political party; suddenly you discover that you are a misogynist...your ideas are not allowed...there is something wrong with you.
You start to grind...so you write a protest letter to the government, to who? To the Minister of State of women. Yes let's try...no reply..they are to busy with other more important things.
OK, you are not yet done...you will involve the UN...yes the the United Nations (between a war and another they deal also with human issues), but you want to collect information first. Investigating the UN organization you will see that it is literally full of groups whose mandate is to take care of women all around the world. No equivalent men group exist. You'll notice that the WHO (world health organization) is biased on taking care of women health despite men and boy have much more issues than women and girls. Men suicide 300% more than women but the WHO set preferential targets where women suicide rate is higher than average (basically the WHO assumes that men suicide more than women, that's it, it is a men fault; let's take care of women and ensure that the 3/1 suicide rate does not change); you'll notice that there are specific programs for keeping care of women health in 3rd world countries where everyone knows that men gets the upper don't? So these programs advocate for spending more resources on taking care of women health than men health despite the fact that men die and are injured at higher rate, and they also suggest to be smart so that men do not realize that they are 2nd class beings..you know men are violent and they will for sure beat the women. The justification is simple; women procreates so by privileging women they are implicitly keeping care of children, at least daughters since when boys will grow they will become men and hence disposable.
But you try (actually do not know to who you would send the letter) with no reply.
Then you start to feel anger, and likely live with it for few years to come.
Your little boy has grown, he is a young man now. Luckily you have been able to secure him a good education, and maybe he has also developed a sane male ego, despite the decades of belittling messages coming from the media, from education system and probably from many wonderful girls he will have met.
He wants to become an engineer, an aerospace engineer. He applies for a famous University but his application is not successful. Might be because that university has set a limit to the quota of males allowed? May be may be not, but he develops some frustration. You suggest him to consider other opportunities but he seems to not like neither sociology or psychology, it is just that he feels no talent for those fields.
He decides to not apply for a college, to move for a job, after all, being a middle class man is not a must. Inside yourself you know that women rarely look downstairs, and most likely he will have tough times to raise a family pairing with a woman of lower economic status. So you try to make a last try to help him to make a "safer" decision, to not waste his talent and to be pragmatic. It is too late, your little boy has decided to take the MGTOW lifestyle.
Then you give up, and start thinking why men are like that? Then you cry.

Sorry krystina for this plot, involving your boy. It was just a first red pill. Hope I didn't hurt you.

Fabrizio;

You're right. That was very hard to read. However, I disagree with a couple of things in your plot involving my boy...your last line was that I give up and wonder why men are like that. And then I cry. - Number one. I never give up. Ever. Number two, I have never wondered why "men are like that". I grew up understanding that each person is an individual, and the actions of one don't mean the rest are the same. If I wonder anything, I wonder why that specific person is like that. And number three: I don't cry, lol.

As for the rest, I get that throughout my little guy's life I will be frustrated at "roadblocks" (for lack of a better word at the moment), but again, I never give up. And I have yet to have my voice ever silenced, as I'm known to be pretty loud. I'll be raising my boy the same way I was raised: You fight for your rights. You respect your peers. You acknowledge those who, in the past, fought for your right to be the best you can be. You view each and every person as an individual, not as part of a greater group. You believe that you are worthy of everything and anything that comes in your life through hard work and determination.

A question, I'm not sure what MGTOW means?

And I'm assuming (since it's been a while since I last saw the Matrix) that the red pill is the one you take to find out the truth? If it is, keep 'em coming. I'm not one to back down just because a bunch of "feminists" might cause some roadblocks. Those types of "feminists" don't even know what the word means.

Hope that clarifies things a bit more

Number one. I never give up. Ever.

fine

Number two, I have never wondered why "men are like that". I grew up understanding that each person is an individual, and the actions of one don't mean the rest are the same. If I wonder anything, I wonder why that specific person is like that.

good to know, we have something in common

A question, I'm not sure what MGTOW means?

Man Going Their Own Way...google it

I'm not one to back down just because a bunch of "feminists" might cause some roadblocks. Those types of "feminists" don't even know what the word means.

I talked to a female friend of mine (a left wing party supporter, as I used to be) few days ago...she's an old feminist...one of those females that, along with other males, supported a change in the society, that translated in good things and few bad things. She realizes that feminism today (meaning last 20 years) is just hatred of males....well, we are here to spread the word.

Fabrizio,

Thank you for letting me know what that meant I will most definitely google it.

And I'd have to agree with your friend. A REAL Feminist does exactly that. Fights for change, without discrimination for the good of everyone, not just women. That was the kind of Feminist my Mother was. I guess that's why I am the same way. I definitely don't hate males, and I distance myself from anyone who thinks that way.

Hence the reason I want everyone's story to be heard. Because equality won't really be equality if it doesn't include everyone.

A REAL Feminist does exactly that. Fights for change, without discrimination for the good of everyone, not just women.

Then why are they called feminist's?

Sounds to me like woman's priority only club.

Never thought i would use this vid,,,,,but.....

Girl Writes What rant : for the "nice" feminists - YouTube

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That was the kind of Feminist my Mother was. I guess that's why I am the same way..

You seem like a decent gal, you shouldn't be so hard on your self

To Outdoors;

I guess they just held on to the word from when it first started. And for some Feminists, I guess it is a woman's priority only club. Not the way I operate, but then again, I can only speak for myself.

I really should just use Humanist, as that's what I am.

As promised, here is the first Proper installment to the series I'm doing. There aren't any links in this one, it's mostly about the media-pertaining to magazines, books and t.v. The next article will be on the 29th of July, and it'll be about workplace, home and medical equality.
The War on Equality- An Ordinary Woman's View.: The War On Equality...A Man's Point of View - A Multi-Part Series

I hope you think it's up to par, or that I'm at least starting to go down the right track

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...for some Feminists, I guess it is a woman's priority only club. Not the way I operate, but then again, I can only speak for myself.

I really should just use Humanist, as that's what I am.

Could you find me ANY notable group of feminists whose core objectives did not include something along the lines of "getting equality for women?" Most groups contain this as part of their activities, usually stating in sub-text that they mean "getting equality with men." Quite apart from the grammatical inaccuracy of trying to get equality for part of something (like trying to get half the water in a bucket equally level) what such objectives inevitably translate to - even if the original intention was good - is the same as "getting preferential treatment for women." This outcome is inescapable when concentrating on only one gender.

• Why many women think they are feminists -- and why they are wrong. - Blogs - antimisandry.com

If you are talking as a humanist (someone concerned about the welfare of humans) it is better to say so. If you are talking as an egalitarian (someone who believes in equality of the sexes) it is better to say so. (It is safer not to declare yourself as part of anything but simply to state your views.) Declaring yourself as any kind of feminist is asking to be treated like a social parasite.

• Qualified feminsm. ("moderate feminism" "ifeminism" NAFALT "feminist but.." etc.) - Blogs - antimisandry.com