Quote from aoirthoir

This is why The First Truth of Masculinism is:

All Men are Men.

While some object to that, its need is evident in that so many times an attempt to shame a man is to say that he is not a Man.

For sure all men are men. Just like uncolinisation is a culture, lol.

Thing is, I met someone like you 6 years ago. He was and is sorry for himself cause no one took him seriously. He was 'All about himself",.... so he was dangerous for anyone who wanted to proceed.

Anyways, I wish you all the best since you are doing something positive for men.

I'm wondering if Arron Thawe and Aoirthoir are one and the same

Quote from Les Bowring

I'm wondering if Arron Thawe and Aoirthoir are one and the same

Why?

Quote from julie

For sure all men are men. Just like uncolinisation is a culture, lol.

Thing is, I met someone like you 6 years ago. He was and is sorry for himself cause no one took him seriously. He was 'All about himself",.... so he was dangerous for anyone who wanted to proceed.

Anyways, I wish you all the best since you are doing something positive for men.

I have no doubt you have met many men like 'him', just as we have met many women like yourself.

Quote from Andy Man

And it hasn't been lost on me that the AM logo at the top of the web page now shares the same font as that used on Masculinist.net. Is that a coincidence?

You may recall a while back I asked members of this site to help out with graphics. Several offered, yourself included as memory serves.
Graphic Artist needed - apply within
Not one of those who offered their help managed to get one icon made. The only one who made any genuine effort was Douglas.
After several weeks of waiting and enquiring if anyone had made progress, I made my requests on facebook and a couple of people offered - one even managed to email me a test banner... which I accepted.

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You are effectively trying to take credit for what others are doing

Other groups do that quite regularly and that doesn't seem to phase you.

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...your original quote has been removed.

Hmm, as I'm sure you know, admins can check on edits made to posts and see the differences. If you point to the specific post you're referring to I can check on that claim and confirm or deny it.

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No doubt the new members will be infecting more threads with their dribble. It doesn't make sense they would join here otherwise.

There's a wonderful tool on each member's profile page. Called ignore. I recommend people use it.

Quote from aoirthoir

If a website owner asks us to post in one place only, we honor it. If they ask us not to post, we honor it.

I can confirm this as accurate. On the facebook for AM, I did ask these guys to not post regarding off-topic content to AM. They stopped.

[QUOTE=PWCM;301813]Why?



Because I'm a cantankerous old git and a gut feeling that very rarely lets me down

Quote from felixblue

I remember a bloke saying to me once.. "You seem to be saying, 'Its good to be a man'.. Good man!"..

"It's good to be a Man" when translated into Masculnismo is "All Men are Good."

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We are all here to help each other eh?

It appears not. Some have demonstrated they are here to make false claims about us.

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I intend to help the few individual MRA's I meet here and there. This is my priority for now. After my gardening and DIY..

I will help any Man I can. I begin by helping with my skills in technology. MensRightsEdmonton.com is for a Man that hits the streets, literally. I was arrested recently for spray painting the AVfM logo. He is an intactivist. I am not. He has several differences in ideology with us Masculinists and we with him. Yet still I built his website for him. He even calls into AVfM radio and talks about his activities, mentions his website and he regularly thanks me for building it for him.

The point is your stance is correct, we should be here to help each other. I have a record of what I do and that record shows, even when a Man disputes with me, if he is for Men, I will assist him. It is my way. Because this is my way, it places responsibility upon others to try the same. Men, as you have noticed, evade responsibility and more importantly freedom. So they must claim things about me that are entirely fabrications.

But that is ok because it demonstrates the call of Masculinism, why we need it.

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For sure all men are men. Just like uncolinisation is a culture, lol.

According to your earlier statement, all Men are not Men, for I am a Man and you said I was not a Man.

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Thing is, I met someone like you 6 years ago.

All Men are Like Me because All Men are Men, All Men are Good, All Men are Worthy. But not all Men are Masculinists.

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He was and is sorry for himself cause no one took him seriously.

Everyone is taken seriously by someone. And blaming someone for "feeling sorry" for being abused by people is most reprehensible. Have you consider that perhaps he was beaten by his mother, falsely accused by his girlfriend, lied to by the courts? Men feel sorry for themselves when they are hurt, so do women. It is a natural state of affairs. Your victim blaming of his is unsconscionable.

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He was 'All about himself",....

Good. All Men should be all about themselves. It is time we stopped giving entitled women like you any ground. I for instance have an oath that once a week I will protect no women, no children. I decide what day of the week that will be and I vary that day. I am all about Me, then all about Men. I am not about women at all.

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so he was dangerous for anyone who wanted to proceed.

Nonsense. You people here use the word "dangerous" to mean "I dont like what another says so I am going to pull the feminist bullshit of implying they are an abuser." Just as people are not buying it when feminists make these false claims about Men, well people are not buying it when non-Masculinists make false claims about Masculinists.

I bless the Man that you tried to curse here.

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Anyways, I wish you all the best since you are doing something positive for men.

Uh huh. Sure you do. Fortunately, I do not depend upon the statements of females.

Quote from Les Bowring

It maybe the cynic in me or just being a cantankerous old git but what a lot of waffle and bs an old saying comes to mind thou dust protest too much

This is a way of saying "We may make many false claims about a Man, but if he responds to each of these false claims, well he must be guilty..."


If people do not want me responding to their fabrications, they should stop fabricating. A Man responding many times to many fabrications, in no way lessens his credibility.

Quote from Les Bowring

I'm wondering if Arron Thawe and Aoirthoir are one and the same

No you're not, you're making it up wholesale. As the others, you have no basis for any claim against me factually, so you have to fabricate now two things to create an imagined cause of complaint. A person of any honesty whatsoever does not simply toss out fabrications such as this, without a scant of evidence.

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Why? Because I'm a cantankerous old git and a gut feeling that very rarely lets me down

Well it let you down this time Brother.


But here's an interesting thing, Douglas and others, who insist my beliefs must be based upon logic, will likely make no comment whatsoever that this fabrication of yours is based on no logic. Now what is the difference between your claim and my beliefs? Your claim is external, you attempt to besmirch the character of two Men, one of whom has said but one line on this entire thread, and certainly it cannot be offensive to say "I am here also Aoirthoir.." Your claim is something that can be proven or not. My belief is something internal, about how I CHOOSE to believe about Men. And it is something I seek to convince no one of. So logic MUST be applied to internals, but never to a single fabrication (lie) about a Masculinist. This is the state of the MRM today.

Quote from Marx

You may recall a while back I asked members of this site to help out with graphics. Several offered, yourself included as memory serves.
Graphic Artist needed - apply within
Not one of those who offered their help managed to get one icon made. The only one who made any genuine effort was Douglas.
After several weeks of waiting and enquiring if anyone had made progress, I made my requests on facebook and a couple of people offered - one even managed to email me a test banner... which I accepted.

The Masculinist Tech Team has made clear that we will help anyone in the Pro-Male Men's Movement.

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Other groups do that quite regularly and that doesn't seem to phase you.

This is common among Men in the MRM. First they will falsely accuse Masculinists of things we did not do, but the interesting thing is, the false accusation they make is what they are doing. I think it is a way of bait and switch.

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Hmm, as I'm sure you know, admins can check on edits made to posts and see the differences. If you point to the specific post you're referring to I can check on that claim and confirm or deny it.

I thought as much. Most of these programs save everything.

Quote from Marx

There's a wonderful tool on each member's profile page. Called ignore. I recommend people use it.

Is it like Facebook Block where it prevents the member you ignore from seeing your posts as well? I use that tool regularly as I care for All Men and so when Men are upset by what I post, I save their emotional state by rendering it impossible for them to see it and thereby be upset.

Quote from Marx

I can confirm this as accurate. On the facebook for AM, I did ask these guys to not post regarding off-topic content to AM. They stopped.

It is also confirmable by noticing I have not called into AVfM radio since the affair. Several people are more upset by me honoring this request, than the original Ban, insisting I should at least listen and call in.

Quote from aoirthoir

I will help any Man I can. I begin by helping with my skills in technology. MensRightsEdmonton.com is for a Man that hits the streets, literally. I was arrested recently for spray painting the AVfM logo.

CORRECTION:

HE was arrested recently. It was not me.

Quote from Les Bowring

I'm wondering if Arron Thawe and Aoirthoir are one and the same

Quote from Les Bowring

Because I'm a cantankerous old git and a gut feeling that very rarely lets me down

Quote from aoirthoir

No you're not, you're making it up wholesale. As the others, you have no basis for any claim against me factually, so you have to fabricate now two things to create an imagined cause of complaint. A person of any honesty whatsoever does not simply toss out fabrications such as this, without a scant of evidence.

But here's an interesting thing, Douglas and others, who insist my beliefs must be based upon logic, will likely make no comment whatsoever that this fabrication of yours is based on no logic. Now what is the difference between your claim and my beliefs? Your claim is external, you attempt to besmirch the character of two Men, one of whom has said but one line on this entire thread, and certainly it cannot be offensive to say "I am here also Aoirthoir.." Your claim is something that can be proven or not. My belief is something internal, about how I CHOOSE to believe about Men. And it is something I seek to convince no one of. So logic MUST be applied to internals, but never to a single fabrication (lie) about a Masculinist. This is the state of the MRM today.

I do support these statements.

It's actually quite funny, I've never had this sort of 'identity crisis' online before. Let's clear this up. If you search on facebook, or ask the others here who've interacted with Aoirthoir on any medium, they will tell you that he's a middle-aged white male. If you go here: Desiderium Firmum, Semper Ardens: I like to squat it squat it you'll find my blog with videos of my training, which show me as a 19 year old black male. I hope this ends the topic, though frankly I'm disappointed at such a low-brow attack on Aoirthoir's integrity.

Quote from Aaron Thawe

I do support these statements.

Thank you Brother.

Quote from Aaron Thawe

It's actually quite funny, I've never had this sort of 'identity crisis' online before..

I have. I am used to persons fabricating (lying) about me with regularity. You will become used to it too as you speak more and more loudly in support of Men.

Quote from Aaron Thawe

Let's clear this up..

A lie cannot be cleared up. It will be promoted time and again. If they do not claim you are me, they will claim another is me. This is so prevalent that when I left Jehovah's Witness boards, though I had never pretended to be anyone but me, they continued for 5 years to accuse newcomers of being Hyghlandyr (My handle when I frequented such places). The Pro-Male Men's Movement is littered with Men who will fabricate (lie) at the slightest turn. They will dislike Men who are Pro-Male because it places responsibility on them for only being Pro-Males-Like-Them. They insist they are for Men's rights but are really for men's rights to be like them.

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If you search on facebook, or ask the others here who've interacted with Aoirthoir on any medium, they will tell you that he's a middle-aged white male..

I choose to take offense at this claim. I am a not a middle aged white male. I am a fat, toothless, misshapen, Irish, smelly middle aged white male.

Quote from Aaron Thawe

If you go here: Desiderium Firmum, Semper Ardens: I like to squat it squat it you'll find my blog with videos of my training, which show me as a 19 year old black male..

You're just making that up. Anyone can link to a blog of someone else. Er I mean "I'm" just making that up.

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I hope this ends the topic, though frankly I'm disappointed at such a low-brow attack on Aoirthoir's integrity.

If it does end it, another lie will come up. The thing here is this simply, since they have no cause of actual complaint against us, they have to fabricate lie after lie and insist what we are not saying is what we are saying, and what we are saying, we have never said. Notice I say "You men are great!" and the retort that follows "AHA! I caughted you bucko in your feminist shaming languages!"

Aoirthoir, I said I would write more today, but apart from this I have changed my mind and will write more fully at a later time. However, I have two questions I would like you to answer.

I would like to know why you have changes your avatar to its current one. What is your intention and thinking in wishing to project this avatars image?

Also, will you give a phonetic spelling for how to pronounce Aoirthoir?

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Aoirthoir, I said I would write more today, but apart from this I have changed my mind and will write more fully at a later time. However, I have two questions I would like you to answer.

Sure Brother, I shall answer.

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I would like to know why you have changes your avatar to its current one. What is your intention and thinking in wishing to project this avatars image?

I changed it because my first image was far too beautiful for mortal eyes apparently. I keep saying over and over that I am less than every Man on the planet. Yet I am told that I am saying I am more than all Men. I concluded it must be because my original Avatar, which is me, is just too much for Men to bear compared to their own visages. So I sought to show that I am exactly like every other Man, and that makes me less than all other Men.

That avatar is of my mouth, those teeth, and missing teeth, are my teeth and missing teeth. It is not a purdy sight. I do not, as some say, have a purdy mouth. I hoped by showing this "failing" of mine people would realize I am a Man and in being a Man am claiming no more right than they. Barring that I hope it provides a reason for Men to disagree with me that is based on fact.

So they can say "AHA! He doesn't even have teeth!" which is factual rather than "AAHA he keeps saying he is better than us and he has hundreds of thousands of followers" which is not factual since I never said those. Let them complain about something real rather than descend into lying.

The interesting thing about the lies they keep making is this, if I were to ask "How many Men here would lie to keep an innocent Man out of Prison on a false rape charge?" they would all most likely insist they would not lie, it would be wrong. To lie to besmirch the character of a Man is acceptable, to lie to defend a man from a known evil, is unacceptable.

I on the other hand would lie if I was convinced it would prevent an innocent man from being raped in prison.

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Also, will you give a phonetic spelling for how to pronounce Aoirthoir?

It is Gaeilge and varies in pronunciation from region to region. I say it as EAR HOWAR. Like howard without the D at the end.

I preferred your original avatar old chum.. You look like a vampire in this version!

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I preferred your original avatar old chum.. You look like a vampire in this version!

When I have my dentures in, I really look like a vampire. I asked them to be made slightly shorter than my fangs on purpose, to accentuate the fangs. Because of malnutrition, thanks to the single mother that raised me and practiced food withholding, my teeth are malformed. With the rest of my teeth pulled and having only a few molars and these fangs, it creates a nice "predator" look when they are closed. I should perhaps upload that then folks can say "SEE! We told you he was mauahahahah! DANGEROUS! He even eats children!" Which is still a common claim about us Pagans. It's pretty funny actually that people still claim stupid shit like that. Especially since I eat kittens, not children.

haha! A man who enjoys eating pussy cant be all that bad!

Quote from aoirthoir

Is it like Facebook Block where it prevents the member you ignore from seeing your posts as well? I use that tool regularly as I care for All Men and so when Men are upset by what I post, I save their emotional state by rendering it impossible for them to see it and thereby be upset.

No, there is a tag left in place to let them know their chosen member has posted but doesn't display the post - an option is given to display it if they feel compelled to read it though. It is one-way.

Quote from Trauma Fried Brains

Also, will you give a phonetic spelling for how to pronounce Aoirthoir?

I do it as 'ear-hour'.

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haha! A man who enjoys eating pussy cant be all that bad!

You just had to, didn't you?