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    I'm Alice Wonder. That is a pseudonym, and I'm actually a guy.

    I found this forum when researching feminism and femdom. I was actually researchers complaints against femdom by feminists and was a little surprised to see them equated as the same thing, but that's another story.

    I am a submissive male that likes dominating women. Let me clear that I do not enjoy women who hate men. They can kiss my ***. I like dominating women who do not judge others by race, orientation, religion, creed, or sex. I also do not have the philosophy that women are inherently superior to men or any crap like that, I believe in equality.

    For many years, I felt like something was missing. I craved domination by women, be it relationship or otherwise, and I thought there was something wrong with me, that I was a freak, that I was sick. I would go through binges where I downloaded content of an adult nature towards that effect and then feel ashamed and depressed and purge.

    About a year ago, I actually started to explore the lifestyle with actual dominant women and it is the most liberating thing that has ever happened to me, kind of like Alice going down the rabbit hole and discovering a whole new fantastic world where the rules she was taught to believe just simply did not apply. It is the most personally liberating experience I have had since leaving home for college.

    I am a computer programmer and I am a big ecology / nature nut, with a passion for reptiles and amphibians but of course I don't limit my passion to that.

    That's me, how I found this place and why I'm here.

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    Re: Hello Everyone

    Hello and welcome. I am confused as to whether (and to whom) you are submissive or dominant:
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    I am a submissive male that likes dominating women. ... I like dominating women who ... I craved domination by women ... started to explore the lifestyle with actual dominant women...
    The issue of dominant or submissive women is not directly connected with misandry. I believe that misandry among dominant or submissive women is no more or less common that it is among women in general. (Also, misandry is not restricted to women.)

    Personally, I think individual instances of misandry - like individual instances of misogyny - are socially harmless and inevitable. It is social misandry, such as espoused and supported by feminism, that is a problem for society.

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    ...I also do not have the philosophy that women are inherently superior to men or any crap like that, I believe in equality.
    Why do you think that equality is important. Indeed how do you believe it to be important when you don't want it for yourself or your partner? Is it not more important that people's needs are met, rather than insisting that we are all equal?
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    Equality is important because a chromosome does not make a person more or less valuable any more than how much melanin they have in their skin.
    And with respect to me and my partner, we have equality. She craves dominance and I crave submission so both are getting what we want, but we are also equals. Submission is a gift I choose to give, I choose to surrender, and she chooses to accept. Either one of us is free to back out of that arrangement. And submission is not something I offer to any woman, not even every dominant woman.

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    Welcome aboard, AW...

    It's good you have found a working system that gives you and your partner what you both seek, I think that scenario is a relatively rare phenomenon these days.

    BTW, your choice in words is a little peculiar.

    In one sentence you say you're the submissive but then you say you like dominating women, which reads that you like to be in control. I think you may have meant that you like dominant women?
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    I like dominating women as in women who are dominating.
    Sorry for the confusing word order.

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    Wait! I gotta fix some popcorn...

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    Lord. Who the hell left the door unlocked?

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    Mistress keeps losing the key, so I have become very good at picking locks.

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    Alice Wonder.

    Me and you could have some interesting dialog. Me being dominated? Not going to happen. Men are the ones to be giving the commands and "owning".
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    Ok, so we get you like women who dominate you. But this forum is 'anti-misandry' to which you haven't mentioned anything about. Are you lost?
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    Not lost. I came to discuss the thread that equated feminism with femdom. It was suggested in that thread that I introduce myself, resulting in this thread.

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    Not lost. I came to discuss the thread that equated feminism with femdom. It was suggested in that thread that I introduce myself, resulting in this thread.
    Fair enough. My point is that we've only heard about you're sexual proclivities thus far, I'd like to hear what you think about issues pertaining to the purpose of this site.
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    I'm Alice Wonder. That is a pseudonym, and I'm actually a guy.

    I found this forum when researching feminism and femdom. I was actually researchers complaints against femdom by feminists and was a little surprised to see them equated as the same thing, but that's another story.

    I am a submissive male that likes dominating women. Let me clear that I do not enjoy women who hate men. They can kiss my ***. I like dominating women who do not judge others by race, orientation, religion, creed, or sex. I also do not have the philosophy that women are inherently superior to men or any crap like that, I believe in equality.

    For many years, I felt like something was missing. I craved domination by women, be it relationship or otherwise, and I thought there was something wrong with me, that I was a freak, that I was sick. I would go through binges where I downloaded content of an adult nature towards that effect and then feel ashamed and depressed and purge.

    About a year ago, I actually started to explore the lifestyle with actual dominant women and it is the most liberating thing that has ever happened to me, kind of like Alice going down the rabbit hole and discovering a whole new fantastic world where the rules she was taught to believe just simply did not apply. It is the most personally liberating experience I have had since leaving home for college.

    I am a computer programmer and I am a big ecology / nature nut, with a passion for reptiles and amphibians but of course I don't limit my passion to that.

    That's me, how I found this place and why I'm here.
    How-dee, and it is so nice to see a shamelessly unusual man hanging it out there.

    As you must have noticed, there are a few folks here who like to trip over words like "equality" and assume that they are being delivered in a feminist context. Fell into that trap myself on my intro, some eighty thousand words back. No worries.

    But while I don't care to mine your use of the language we all speak for ordinary, reasonable words redefined by a dogma that many here claim they aren't willing to submit to (that thing about letting abusers make the rules, what was that, again?), I definitely would say you could work on your misplaced modifiers, such as "dominating women". Language is a tricky thing, when folks already know what your words mean even before you say them...

    You see, there are a few different camps here on the anti-misandry hillside. One favors a return to (and assumes there ever was or could ever be again) patriarchal socioeconomic models, while another subsists mainly on a rabid general denunciation of women and the men who approve of anything about them (this being an apparently considered approach to defeating women who object to everything about us and the women who approve of anything about us), others like to evaluate rhetoric and media postures and critique them for their sexist slant (guilty as charged), while others simply have intelligent, balanced things to say backed up by real accomplishments (don't worry, that camp will find you soon enough, if you don't go around with a girl's name saying things like "I'm late, I'm late". That could definitely be misconstrued in a gender debate).

    Lotta variety, wouldn't'cha say?

    Take your pick, but don't let anybody knock you for just being a plain, honest weirdo. About time around here, I say.

    Welcome aboard, and for God's sake, keep your life jacket to hand. Seas can get rough in these waters.

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    Fair enough. My point is that we've only heard about you're sexual proclivities thus far, I'd like to hear what you think about issues pertaining to the purpose of this site.
    I believe misandry is wrong.
    As I understand it, it is the dislike or hatred of the male gender.

    Judging anyone by race, religion, creed, sexual orientation, or gender is wrong in my opinion.

    Let me give some specific examples:

    Sarah Palin. I believe she was chosen as the VP in the 2008 race simply because she was a woman. That woman isn't fit to lead a knitting club, let alone the country (which would have happened in the event of McCain's death), it was wrong for her to be selected as running mate and is the primary reason I voted for Obama.

    Sports. There are physiological differences between the male and female gender. I think it is wrong to allow girls to play on boys sports teams, yet in many places if there isn't an equivalent women's sports team, the law requires they be allowed to play. That's f****'d up and those laws need to change. I sympathize with the girls, they may genuinely love the sport and have skill, but keep the sexes different for competitive sports.

    Teacher / Student sex scandals. When a female teacher takes advantage of a male student, society reacts in a radically different way than when a male takes sexual advantage of a female student. That's wrong. I know as a student I had sexual fantasies about some of my teachers, a lot of boys do. I guess that's why some downplay it. But guess what, many female students do too.

    In either case, an adult taking sexual advantage of a minor is wrong ESPECIALLY when that adult is in an authority position, and it disgusts me that society is more repulsed when men do it than when woman do it.

    False accusations of sexual harassment and rape.

    Sexual harassment and rape are always wrong. When a woman does it to a man, and they do, it rarely results in the same consequences as when a man does it to a woman. But beyond that, there are countless cases where a man goes to jail for it only for it later to be revealed that he was completely innocent, the woman lied about it. That is seriously f***ed up and should not be tolerated. Innocent until proven guilty to me means there needs to be actual proof beyond reasonable doubt, yet there are too many cases where the man is convicted and later it turns out the woman was lying.

    Women in the military. I don't have a problem with women in the military but I do have a problem with women in combat positions. The male gender is biologically programmed from evolution to protect the female gender. This can cause distraction and complications in combat situations. As such I do not believe women should be in combat units. I also fear what will happen to women who are taken as POW's.

    Does that answer your question about where I stand on misandry?

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    I believe misandry is wrong.

    Does that answer your question about where I stand on misandry?
    Works for me, and now you can lean up against the wagon wheel and take your lashes for the inevitable violations of the MRA party line you didn't know you were undertaking in expressing yourself freely.

    We don't exactly do loyalty oaths here, but you may come to believe in time that some wish we did.

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