Quote from Lady Catherine

A furry.

Actually a beastialist. Furries are into anthropomorphic types of things.

But I have nothing against you trolling furs, mind you.

Funny how this loon is doing things that would put a man in jail... she also claims to want "to better the relationships between men and women"... How? By changing the power dynamics. Instead of the libertarian and dare I say FAIR balanced relationship, she is large and in charge...

This is no better than a man that dominates his wife. No better at all. Actually, it more than likely is worse.

Note also that her boyslave is no longer posting. What, wont allow it?

"Unconventional marriage"? No. This is just a 180 of what femikooks like her claim that men have done to women, dominate and oppress. This is no fetish. This is the ultimate feminist wet dream. Does he walk around in his maids outfit serving you and your other anti-male friends? Is your strapon black or white? Sick.

You catherine, are no lady and I will not address you as such.

Silentblood, get some help man. Then leave this freaking "loving wife". Have some self dignity!

There. I said it. For I know many here wanted to but wouldn't.

And to think, this nutter is supposedly a psychologist? Helping people with their "issues"? WOW!


TMOTS

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Funny how this loon is doing things that would put a man in jail...

In the UK, such consensual activities can put a man or woman in jail. Illustrate where, in her country, a man has ever been put in jail for such consensual activities, please.

Quote from themanonthestreet

.. she also claims to want "to better the relationships between men and women"... How? By changing the power dynamics. Instead of the libertarian and dare I say FAIR balanced relationship, she is large and in charge...

A consensual, private, arrangement, between two mature adults, where either can back out of the arrangement at will. Why is this so objectionable?

Sure, on a personal basis, this is an arrangement that I would never go for. But is it right to impose my personal bigotry on anyone else?

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This is no better than a man that dominates his wife. No better at all. Actually, it more than likely is worse.

Why is it better or worse? If that's how the two of them want it? While my personal feelings as a man are that it is somehow more 'natural' the other way around (and that is possibly borne out by the fact that D/s relationship are most commonly maledom/femsub) I still see no reason to be against it either way around.

We are NOT talking about social dominance here. This is about domestic arrangements between two people living together, or possibly about consensual kink in limited, non-domestic arrangements.

Quote from themanonthestreet

... Sick.

Many people think it is sick. Many people think many people who find it 'sick' to be repressed and stuck-up. Neither are proved, both are uninformed, sweeping judgements.

Personally, I don't think it's anyone's position to determine what two people get up to in the privacy of their home. To want to interfere at that level leads to a police state that has the right to invade your home and tell you how you must live.

One of the worst aspects of feminism is telling people how they should relate to one another in the privacy of their domestic life.

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There. I said it. For I know many here wanted to but wouldn't.

How incredibly arrogant to assume that there are not plenty of people here who will not speak out against things they see as being wrong! At least half the posts on this board are people doing precisely that. You should not try pretending to represent other people here. If you want to back up what you say with reports of polls or research, that's a different matter, though it's really got nothing to do with anti-misandry or the rights of men to be free to choose how they live.

When are we going to stop talking about what Lady Catherine and silentblood do in the privacy of their homes and focus on more significant matters? Who cares about her kinks? Quite frankly, I feel a boregasm coming on.

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When are we going to stop talking about what Lady Catherine and silentblood do in the privacy of their homes and focus on more significant matters? Who cares about her kinks? Quite frankly, I feel a boregasm coming on.

Exactly why I've kept out of that part of the thread.

IF he enjoys his lifestyle - so be it. It is up to HIM to say enough is enough IF it gets out of hand. And likewise, the same for her. Personally, I think most people have kinks they don't share with the outside world (self included!) so if anything they deserve a little respect for being so upfront about their relationship. On one hand who are we to judge their private affairs, none of us have that right... On the other hand, it somewhat invites opinions when you declare your private affairs to a public forum. What is the happy-medium here? Well, I know I have my kinks so I try desperately not to judge others on theirs - with certain limits (e.g. animals, children).

If any man expressed his kinks here would we be as comfortable talking about it as we are when Lady Catherine or any other female does it, though?

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Funny how this loon is doing things that would put a man in jail... she also claims to want "to better the relationships between men and women"... How? By changing the power dynamics. Instead of the libertarian and dare I say FAIR balanced relationship, she is large and in charge...

This is no better than a man that dominates his wife. No better at all. Actually, it more than likely is worse.

Note also that her boyslave is no longer posting. What, wont allow it?

"Unconventional marriage"? No. This is just a 180 of what femikooks like her claim that men have done to women, dominate and oppress. This is no fetish. This is the ultimate feminist wet dream. Does he walk around in his maids outfit serving you and your other anti-male friends? Is your strapon black or white? Sick.

You catherine, are no lady and I will not address you as such.

Silentblood, get some help man. Then leave this freaking "loving wife". Have some self dignity!

There. I said it. For I know many here wanted to but wouldn't.

And to think, this nutter is supposedly a psychologist? Helping people with their "issues"? WOW!


TMOTS

I am with you all the way. The last thing I need is some "dominant" female in the relationship. I am not a womans boytoy, and there is a big difference between a woman who is assertive and a woman who calls herself dominant. An assertive woman knows what she wants and stands her ground while also being loving and supportive of her husband, and she won't try to emasculate him. A "dominant" woman treats her husband like a second-rate sidekick, and gets him to submit to her ridiculous demands, making his ass the Beta Male. It's sickening.

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Exactly why I've kept out of that part of the thread.

IF he enjoys his lifestyle - so be it. It is up to HIM to say enough is enough IF it gets out of hand. And likewise, the same for her. Personally, I think most people have kinks they don't share with the outside world (self included!) so if anything they deserve a little respect for being so upfront about their relationship. On one hand who are we to judge their private affairs, none of us have that right... On the other hand, it somewhat invites opinions when you declare your private affairs to a public forum. What is the happy-medium here? Well, I know I have my kinks so I try desperately not to judge others on theirs - with certain limits (e.g. animals, children).

Wise words.

Note also that her boyslave is no longer posting. What, wont allow it?

Actually, I'm having other problems unrelated to my D/s relationship, and I'm not really posting ANYWHERE on the internet. I'm having some family issues that are leaving me drained. I posted this elsewhere:

I haven't been posting on the forums much lately, this might explain why:
I have been having some real problems with my family lately, they think I'm somehow flawed or less than human because I have decided to be openly bisexual. I am sick of loathing myself because people, who I thought loved me no matter what, despise a very real part of me. They have trivialized my spiritual choices, my life choices, and my sexual choices. I am tired of hating that I'll never be "normal" and be a "real" man in their eyes. I have made excuses for my family's behavior in the past, but I'm not doing it anymore. They can leave me alone, and go love their other "normal" SoCon children. I don't want their love anymore. I don't want to conform to some standards set by their bullshit rulebook, that tells me that I can't be who I am.

This is no fetish. This is the ultimate feminist wet dream. Does he walk around in his maids outfit serving you and your other anti-male friends? Is your strapon black or white? Sick.

I'm not petticoated, as neither of us, have that fetish. As for anti-male friends? I don't see how a couple of Maledom friends can be construed as anti-male. And if getting pegged is sick, then I have to wonder about a significant number of straight males who do enjoy it.

Silentblood, get some help man. Then leave this freaking "loving wife". Have some self dignity!

*sigh* I don't need help with me being a sexual masochist and submissive male, in fact I was the one who asked Catherine to be my wife-Mistress, she is the only woman, I trust at that level.

IF he enjoys his lifestyle - so be it. It is up to HIM to say enough is enough IF it gets out of hand. And likewise, the same for her. Personally, I think most people have kinks they don't share with the outside world (self included!) so if anything they deserve a little respect for being so upfront about their relationship. On one hand who are we to judge their private affairs, none of us have that right... On the other hand, it somewhat invites opinions when you declare your private affairs to a public forum. What is the happy-medium here? Well, I know I have my kinks so I try desperately not to judge others on theirs - with certain limits (e.g. animals, children).

*claps* Actually to be honest, I made allusions to my kinks on other threads.

I am with you all the way. The last thing I need is some "dominant" female in the relationship. I am not a womans boytoy, and there is a big difference between a woman who is assertive and a woman who calls herself dominant. An assertive woman knows what she wants and stands her ground while also being loving and supportive of her husband, and she won't try to emasculate him. A "dominant" woman treats her husband like a second-rate sidekick, and gets him to submit to her ridiculous demands, making his ass the Beta Male. It's sickening.

No. Catherine treats me as a human with specific needs. I am not a "side-kick" of any degree, I am her partner, I recieve support in many other ways. Being submissive does not equate to being a doormat. There are plenty of things that I will not do for her.

If any man expressed his kinks here would we be as comfortable talking about it as we are when Lady Catherine or any other female does it, though?

I have no problem discussing mine. I'm not ashamed of being into the things that I am.

Quote from Lady Catherine

Vanilla:Someone without a kink, like BDSM or poly.

Like using 'Straight' to denigrate those not bent - by characterizing them as rigidly narrow, linear and two dimensional; so too with the 'Vanilla' Slur - which is quasi insider slang used amongst the bondage / flogging and dirty diaper buggery crowd to denigrate others, as shown by this excerpt from a Dyke Misandrist site:

"Vanilla sex or conventional sex is used to describe what a culture regards as standard or conventional sexual behavior.... Often it is interpreted as sex that does not involve such elements as BDSM, kink, or fetish activities.

Among heterosexual couples in the Western world, vanilla sex...
The term "vanilla" derives from the use of vanilla extract as the basic flavoring for ice cream, and by extension meaning "plain" or "conventional".

Thus, the term "vanilla" is sometimes used as an insult to describe someone who is overly conventional or unwilling to take risks, in both sexual and non-sexual contexts.

See Also:
SAN FRANCISCO Leather crowd cracks the whip - An alley of kinky discipline beckons the curious at gay pride fest
Joe Garofoli, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, June 22, 2005 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...AG38DCJLK1.DTL


This Sunday in a Wells Fargo bank parking lot near San Francisco's City Hall, August Knight will demonstrate for any adult who cares to stop by what it's like to be flogged -- and enjoy it.

...Leather Alley, one of the fastest-growing niches at the annual San Francisco Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender Pride Parade and Celebration.

On a splash of asphalt on Grove Street will bloom a place for what leather aficionados call "vanilla" types -- i.e., everyone else -- to learn about flogging, spanking, boot blacking and other staples of the subculture known as BDSM (a condensed acronym for bondage and discipline, dominance and submission and sadomasochism)...

While San Francisco's 21- year-old Folsom Street Fair draws 400,000 people each September to enjoy the hardcore fashion of its chaps-only-wearing attendees, the goal of Leather Alley is more educational.

"Don't worry, we don't bite," Johnson says. He pauses. "Unless you want us to."
...............................................

1. Folsom Street Fair, San Francisco, September 30, 2007 Part 1
   W A R N I N G The report you are about to view of the 2007 Folsom Street Fair in San Francisco contains newsworthy images of people engaged in sexual behavior in public.
   www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/

Quote from Lady Catherine

•I'm a certified headshrinker
•I'm a gythia of the Norse
•I love to read fantasy, sci-fi, and romance novels
•silentblood is my husband
•I'm an ifeminist and MRA(I'm weird like that)
•I'm a libertarian(minarchist,actually)
•I love games about magic and the occult.

That's all the important stuff, I do believe.

From the Profile Page - the Omitted Bits:
About Me
•I am pro-LGBT rights
OccupationClinical psychologist

Quote from Ohso

Like using 'Straight' to denigrate those not bent...

It can be used sometimes by some people like that yes but it is not normally said or used in that way, from what I've read, and heard.
Just as 'kinky can be used to denigrate people, but is usually used as shorthand for saying they get up to things not considered typical (i.e. not vanilla).
Just as 'black' can be used to denigrate people but is normally used (in the UK, at least) simply as a way of describing someone's skin colouration.
Just as 'headshrinker' can be used to denigrate people but is normally used by laypersons to include any psychologist/psychiatrist/sociologist/counsellor.
Just as 'dyke' can be used to denigrate people but .. hmm actually it is normally used in that way.
Just as 'pro-LGBT rights' can be used to denigrate people, or can be used to explain that someone doesn't think it fair to discriminate people just because they aren't heterosexual.
Just as 'man' can be used to denigrate people but who on this website would agree with the correctness of that?

Very few descriptives can't be used in a denigrating fashion, when talking among other people who also like to denigrate others.

.......

Quote from themanonthestreet

Funny how this loon is doing things that would put a man in jail...

If some idiotic countries would indeed put a dominant man in jail for consensual BDSM, that's their [those countries] fault, not hers.

Quote from themanonthestreet

"Unconventional marriage"? No. This is just a 180 of what femikooks like her claim that men have done to women, dominate and oppress. This is no fetish. This is the ultimate feminist wet dream. Does he walk around in his maids outfit serving you and your other anti-male friends? Is your strapon black or white? Sick.

A 'vanilla' wife who takes a man's children, house, and money in divorce, that's a 100x more sick.

Quote from Popadibs

If any man expressed his kinks here would we be as comfortable talking about it as we are when Lady Catherine or any other female does it, though?

Let no man here cast aspertions on my kilt, nor on the short white fluffy chiffon petticoat with 60 yards of trim that goes with it. I am an Honorary Colonel in the Greek Army.