First post, after reading this site for a long time.
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- 30th-March-2009 #1
First post, after reading this site for a long time.
Well, I’ve finally posted. I’ve been thinking about it for quite a while as I was just reading strings as a passive observer.
I used to be a capable person before a crisis consumed my existence nine years ago and progressively left me a fraction of the person I once was. Misandry however, is just one of three of issues that worked in combination to bring about my present state. I can’t unravel these issues and so I wander if there is any merit in me being here. Experience has proved to me that the other two issues are even more dismissible, in our culture, than misandry appears to be. Furthermore, there is much more ignorance about them and practically a total inability for people to empathise to them than there is compared to the negative effects of radical feminism.
It’s not worth asking, as I don’t wish to divulge what these two issues are presently.
But returning to the purpose of this site, I have much to say about misandry, but don’t know if I have an adequate presence of mind to do so effectively. I have found this site to be one of the best on the subject considering the wealth of verifiable facts and quality of debate. I am also encouraged by efforts to collate this mass of information into something that can be projected to wider society in exposing the harm and injustice that society appears so complacent to.
But I also want to say, that although there were many reasons that prevented me from joining up until now, I am not in favour of woman bashing. There is a thread which discussed this issue and the question was raised if it stops people joining. Well in my case, although it isn’t valid anymore, it did stop me for some years in deciding to be a member here.
I just don’t believe woman bashing is helpful in furthering our cause, or even valid. Don’t misunderstand me, there are many times when I to want to scream out my pain and rage with the full pantheon of expletives in denouncing those who manipulate our institutionally feminist cultures. But it doesn’t seem to convince the critical mass in society that needs to understand how destructive misandry is. And we need them to be convinced; otherwise we are just perching to the converted. This isn’t a criticism to this site’s members generally, I am quite convinced that the majority here don’t support woman bashing and only hate the ideology of misandry.
On this note, I’ll try and end my intro’ post. Although I am impressed with much in this site, I hope that there will be less woman bashing and more to encourage women to perceive the destructive and immoral ugliness of the misandry in radical feminism. I strongly believe we need more women to support us. Throughout history, whenever a prejudice has been overcome, it has usually involved the mobilising of the equalitist individuals within the very group that oppresses.
P.S. I may not be that good at making short responses to replies. I might not be up to replying at all. It’s not because I choose to ignore, it’s because imp in a mess.
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- 30th-March-2009 #2
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
Willkommen....
I have a strange feeling a discussion aboiut women bashing will emerge...Disclaimer:The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,but only misandry--whether from females or from males.If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.Glenn Sacks
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- 30th-March-2009 #3
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
Welcome...
1) By woman bashing, do you mean pointing out flaws in women in general?
2) These other two topics, I am curious as to what they are. PM me if you would rather not say on the boards.Last edited by Garak; 30th-March-2009 at 11:03 PM.
- 30th-March-2009 #4
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
I sincerely hope you will find support and validation from the members here. Please do not hesitate to post stuff. I, for one, would like to read
your contributions.
- 31st-March-2009 #5
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
welcome. Sorry the woman bashing thing has been a problem for you.
I personally find it ridiculous to expect men who have had their lives stripped from them to act nice. When the fucking takes away their kids, this is robbing their future also. I simply don't buy the idea that they should stuff their sadness or their anger.
If men aren't angry I have to wonder why not?
One thing I'm sure of is that I don't want to upset women. Especially with the truth.
So my friend if experience has taught me that far too many women are shallow, self serving, sneaky, lying, untrustworthy, conniving users...... sorry cowboy, but it seems like the truth to me.
I sure hope that some feminist doesn't see this post. God knows I want to be nice to my abusers.
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Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
Welcome!
"Civilization can only revive when there shall come into being in a number of individuals a new tone of mind, independent of the prevalent one among the crowds, and in opposition to it- a tone of mind which will gradually win influence over the collective one, and in the end determine its character. Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals."
"Until he extends his circle of compassion to include all living things, man will not himself find peace."-Albert Schweitzer
- 31st-March-2009 #7
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
No, although I would prefer the term general/typical characteristics rather than ‘flaws’. Additional, I can’t see any general female characteristics in isolation to males also having typical characteristics. For example, in an admittedly generalising way, I don’t have a problem saying women tend to gain social power by manipulating consensus and image. The female mind is better able to do that. But conversely, men are better able to gain social power by force and material standing. They are genetically more predisposed to do that.
Both these observation can be used for god or bad which ultimately depends on the integrity of the individual. Also these observations were more applicable when our societies were not as developed as they are now. The levels of wealth and economic indulgence we have gained in the last 50 odd years have undermined the simplicity in which typically male and female brains apply themselves to their expectations.
By being against woman bashing, I am just against directing our outrage to the prejudice of radical feminism, to women in general. I don’t believe it will do our cause any good; what will, I believe, is gaining the support of the majority of women who may one day say ‘not in my name’ to the hate inspiring propaganda of the feminists.
Slavery wasn’t abolished by powerless black people; it took a critical mass of white people to say ‘not in my name’.
Sometime in the next month, I know I will have to divulge publicly. It’s just that I don’t believe people will understand. The second issue rather than the third is too alien for people to comprehend in my experience.
Thanks for the offer though.
- 31st-March-2009 #8
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
Thank you bababob. I believe I will find hope and validation on issues of misandry, but perhaps not so on other matters. It’s not that I hesitate to post stuff, I would dearly like to, it’s just that I get bogged down in a quagmire of unintelligible dross. There is an imagination in my mind which is divergent to the norm. I have never been able to express it well, but after 9 years of distress, I can barely produce text which doesn’t go tangential babbling on the subject. Trying to express ‘issue 2’ is like trying to describe a rainbow to the blind. It’s far easier describing misandry to the complacent.
But I will try again soon.
- 31st-March-2009 #9
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
I agree with you totally ingrate, excuse me if it seemed that I didn’t; it is possible that in a few weeks you might find I hold these sentiments too strongly.
But I would say that while some of us my feel we have been torn to shreds by the ravages of sadness and anger you speak of, we can still direct that pain to effectively attack prejudice itself, rather than women in general. We need their support so much, those that put personal integrity above personal advantage. I find that it’s too easy to let our knee jerk reactions offer hate for hate. Let the rad-feminists hate, we need to be smarter and re-focus our knee jerk reactions to something that will eventually succeed.
Yes, too many women are as you say they are; but through your pain and torment, is it possible that you can find too many men are too? Sure, in the Anglosphere cultural matrix, it may be easier for women to indulge their shortcomings, but wouldn’t certain men do the same if they had such advantages?Last edited by themanonthestreet; 31st-March-2009 at 12:56 PM. Reason: fixed quote
- 31st-March-2009 #10
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
Thank you bababob. I believe I will find hope and validation on issues of misandry, but perhaps not so on other matters. It’s not that I hesitate to post stuff, I would dearly like to, it’s just that I get bogged down in a quagmire of unintelligible dross. There is an imagination in my mind which is divergent to the norm. I have never been able to express it well, but after 9 years of distress, I can barely produce text which doesn’t degrade to tangential babbling on the subject. Trying to express ‘issue 2’ is like trying to describe a rainbow to the blind. It’s far easier describing misandry to the complacent.
But I will try again soon.
- 31st-March-2009 #11
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
Welcome here, please accept however that some members will not always share your opinion.
I noticed, you mention only problems about 'radical feminism' - however feminism generally - any form of feminism I have ever seen - is a hateful movement full of men-hating literature written by leading well-known feminists, who often are verbally strong and have certain considerable influence in our daily life, for example in politics, law and education.
I am not into women-bashing, but into bashing of the feminist movement.
Many men here with this forum are not against women (the typical feminist accusation against all men) but are married and have children.
There are also some female posters here, who are highly critical about feminism.Last edited by yohan; 31st-March-2009 at 04:34 AM.
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- 31st-March-2009 #12
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
Welcome.
Hey, don't worry about being here, there, nowhere, all over the place or even progressing into a position.
No-one judges badly anyone.
Shite, talk about riddles.
But seriously, most people here will e-mail you (called PM) to give support or explain. It sometimes looks a mess from the outside. But on the inside, it is safe.
C'mon in and see for yourself.
You will be pleasantly surprised at the support you will get, the kindness and help to be a complete human being. Ignorance is the Oppressor, Vigilance the Liberator.
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Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
Dip your toe in when you feel like it. I can only guess at what your "other issues" are..
Indeed, they may well be far more significant in affect than the problems created by misandry..
But, much of the "scaling" of problems is all in the mind I have found..
In my case, its the state of my mind that is the biggest issue!
"Woman bashing"..
"Equality"..
Yes, its common to see that those who oppose "woman bashing" seem to also support "equality"..
Now ask yourself why feminists have hijacked "equality".. and seek to subject everyone to their take on what it is..
And why they call anyone who opposes their take on it "woman bashers"..
I too am opposed to "woman bashing".. Unless the woman deserves it..
Usually though, the behaviour of the woman is a result of something else..
No, not "some man made her do it"..
The state does!
- 31st-March-2009 #14
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
another "be nice to women" kinda guy
i have had no women in my past or present that doesn't bash men in some way or another.
-forgive some of us,if we hand some of it back-we must not upset them-they may step forward and help us overcome our lack of manners in trying to change things or standing up to the biasness in society.
Around my town saying anything at all,in defence of men and fathers is called "woman bashing" even though it really isn't-but this is just a feminized persons response to any and all defiance to the feminist agenda.
Its called ,"shame and blame".
nice of you to come here and show us how we should act and respond by being nice,of course its the only way-right?
thats how women got the preference they deserve-by being nice-isn't it?
- 31st-March-2009 #15
Re: First post, after reading this site for a long time.
outdoors, no movement won ground by bashing the majority or trying to subdue by force. Just look at how the dictatorships take place because it's a similar effect. Most dictatorships got born by enslaving people gradually.
And yes, as long as you will treat every woman like the majority of them(arguably), you won't get anywhere. Most women, even those who label themselves as feminists don't really hate men. They are just spoon fed by society that people are out to get them, but they don't target their despise towards every single man just because he has a dick. My biggest disgust of feminism and left movements in general is that they're not really helping people. They're just destroying their integrity and will to better themselves. Feminism should help women get a better mindset for work and integrate better in the workplace, for instance, instead of asking for equal pay. It's idiotic.
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