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    Don`t like your baby ? Have it murdered !!!

    Don`t like your baby ? Have it murdered !!!

    Yes, that is right folks, if for any reason you have decided that you do not want your baby, simply have it “Murdered.”


    "MSNBC host says newborn infants don’t count as ‘alive’ unless parents decide they do, infanticide is the new abortion.

    Today Natural News denounces Melissa Harris-Perry, the latest talking head “death worshipper” to publicly imply that she supports the murder of living, breathing newborn children.


    According to Harris-Perry, life begins when the parents feel like life begins.


    And together with some twisted new “ethics” arguments from the radical left, this can include months or years after a child is born."


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    As is the opportunistic nature of the radical left, once a broadening of existing definitions is made, thus the cycle begins once more.
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    It all boils down to late term abortion and textbook narcissism.
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    While the killing of young children (infanticide) is nothing new to any society in the world, the acceptability of it in modern times is a natural result of the abortion laws, where even babies who are old enough to be kept alive by modern medical practices may also be killed under the concept of 'her body, her choice.'

    Some countries still have infanticide law that makes mothers not guilty of murder for killing young children, sometimes up to the age of 5.

    In the USA, claims that infanticide is illegal started in 2003, were confirmed in 2007 but are still being challenged and women often get the minimal sentence allowed by law. A child is three times more likely to be murdered before school age than at any other time in its life.

    The UK's Infanticide Act is just one example of law where men are discriminated against - though I would far rather the law be scrapped than be made equal for men! However, some judges want the law to be relaxed so that even more women could be found innocent of murdering their child.

    A part of Canada's Infanticide legislation is being challenged but even though Canada leads in much of the debunking of the excuses for such laws, the supreme court has upheld the law. The debate on infanticide rages on.

    Like the USA, Australia's laws on infanticide vary with some states permitting it or otherwise allowing for reduced sentence. Some years ago, there was talk of a federal law but I'm unsure if it was passed. The debate on the cause of infanticide continues.

    Since 1910, South Africa has had a legal definition of Infanticide but has varied over the years in its acceptability. Currently, the law gives children the full protection of the law, just as with any other person. Interestingly, the social/media definition of infanticide includes a child before birth, and many articles in South Africa that cover the subject point to the horrendous number of infanticides - by their definition - in the USA.
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    Re: Don`t like your baby ? Have it murdered !!!

    Even I am with you guys on this one. The killing live kids of healthy stock is beyond obscene*.

    That said? Take care: Always remember that the "A" word is a major political trap for us. A pitfall. Feminists just LOVE it when we fight over this scam. When we oppose abortion with visceral conviction? The whole feminist world of misandry has a spontaneous, collective orgasm.

    There exists good reason for the term "third rail of politics". Don't fall into the trap...

    Another angle on MSNBC is that they, like even their rival and polar opposite Fox News are making sensational news statements only to divert public opinion from more pressing concerns. Like the poor economy and the NSA spying on everything we say and do.

    It used to be that MSNBC under then leading political anchor Keith Olbermann and for a brief stint Rachel Maddow were taking a serious, and pointed look at US started wars of aggression. But then K/O was fired. Soon afterwards Maddow came over to the show and quickly toned down her anti war rhetoric. Was when she realized her new boss was GE: a major war toys profiteer.

    All in all both Fox AND even MSNBC are working for the same team: Fox cheer leads for endless war and other right extremist ideologies... Meanwhile MSNBC (like Huff/Poo and Mother Jones) pretends to be a form of legitimate leftist dissent.

    I think of them both the way comic legend Bill Hicks said of politicians:

    "I'm voting for the puppet on the left..."

    "Well I'm voting for the puppet on the right..."


    "Hey look! The same guy is pulling the strings of both puppets!!! They're fucking us man...!!!"




    * Back in the days before Roe vs Wade was decided a great many MD's had an unspoken rule: if a baby was born with severe birth defects and little to no chance of growing into a healthy child and developing a normal body and mind? That and if this poorly developed newborn was only going to be a HUGE burden on the state and/or the parents? The nurse would cover up for the doctor and child was quietly suffocated. Not the kind of decision anyone wants to make. Not even sure if I approve of it either but the idea had much practical merit. Frankly I'd rather such a child not even reach the third trimester though I'm equally certain many here would disagree. Glad I'm not in a position to make that kind of a call.

    Plus: wouldn't an effort to help mothers to be with practical prenatal care be a far better use of resources than to continue spinning the ENDLESS (and unhelpful) so-called "Pro life vs Pro-Choice" argument? Some of you guys spend so much time debating this unsolvable problem that we all could have used our mental resources in something productive. LIKE prenatal care and adoption services.

    Hey, I'm just sayin... THINK about the net result of your undertakings. No sense trying to learn how to better walk through quicksand. Just avoid it when you see it and WALK AROUND...
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    Quote Quote from RobYork View Post
    Don`t like your baby ? Have it murdered !!!



    "MSNBC host says newborn infants don’t count as ‘alive’ unless parents decide they do, infanticide is the new abortion.



    According to Harris-Perry, life begins when the parents feel like life begins.


    And together with some twisted new “ethics” arguments from the radical left, this can include months or years after a child is born."


    According to Harris-Perry, life begins when the parents feel like life begins.

    parents feel
    !!!!!!!!!

    nowadays, more and more, the parents is the state with in-vitrio conception or anonymous sperm donors and payments for all and sundry needs from social security some years ago the parent state in Germany felt that life should end for subhumans - Jews Poles and Russians and other designated folk

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    in Germany felt that life should end for subhumans - Jews Poles and Russians and other designated folk
    In stages, a little bit at a time so that no-one really notices:

    1. Make it acceptable for women to have children adopted at birth -- done
    2. Make it acceptable for women - and maybe even men - to have older children adopted -- done
    3. Legislate this state of affairs so that no-one can do any adopting without state approval -- done
    4. Next legislate state mandated adoptions -- done
    1. Make it acceptable for women to kill unborn children -- done
    2. Make it acceptable for women - and maybe even men - to kill young children -- in progress
    3. Make it acceptable for women and men to kill children because of some unwanted trait like deformity -- under discussion
    4. Make it acceptable for women and men to kill children because of some unwanted trait like wrong gender -- under discussion
    5. Make it acceptable for women and men to kill children because of some unwanted trait like undesirable race -- not yet acceptable
    6. Legislate this terrible state of affairs so that no-one can do any killings without state approval -- almost done
    7. Next legislate state mandated killings -- not yet acceptable
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    Once again,its just because the women have the authority of deciding abortions that such sweeping statements can be made.

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    In stages, a little bit at a time so that no-one really notices:

    1. Make it acceptable for women to have children adopted at birth -- done
    2. Make it acceptable for women - and maybe even men - to have older children adopted -- done
    3. Legislate this state of affairs so that no-one can do any adopting without state approval -- done
    4. Next legislate state mandated adoptions -- done


    1. Make it acceptable for women to kill unborn children -- done
    2. Make it acceptable for women - and maybe even men - to kill young children -- in progress
    3. Make it acceptable for women and men to kill children because of some unwanted trait like deformity -- under discussion
    4. Make it acceptable for women and men to kill children because of some unwanted trait like wrong gender -- under discussion
    5. Make it acceptable for women and men to kill children because of some unwanted trait like undesirable race -- not yet acceptable
    6. Legislate this terrible state of affairs so that no-one can do any killings without state approval -- almost done
    7. Next legislate state mandated killings -- not yet acceptable
    Hasnt anyone noticed yet,thats how feminism is.They do it step by step,eating into our rights more n more.Lastime it was just asking for the right to work to show off their talents n contribute to the country n family.Now its squabbling over pay this pay that,like they cannot lose out in terms of pay,but when they get more they keep mum.Initially it was just wanting the right to wear pants,as in long pants,for practicality,then its all forms of pants,including shorts.Now theyve literally dominated the fashion of shorts and is seeking to shut us men out from it,by designating various shorter shorts and hotpants design as "ladies' shorts",and having it only in the women section and cutting.
    In the area of women protection,all they wanted initially was a safe environment for women to work and play,that the law criminalise undue harassment and violations towards women.Next they introduce the idea of victim blaming,making it impossible for us to advocate that the potential targets practice discretion to protect herself.And how,theyve even pushed for a legislation to deny the rights of prosecutors to check with the "victim" how she was dressed or behaving at the time of the attack,just on grounds of "nothing justifies molest/rape".In essence,we are left to guess if the victim was a true victim that day,minding her own business yet getting attacked,or was she promiscuous or behaving provocatively,offending others and asking for trouble.we as society end up having to either blindy support them,or blindy DON'T support them,which leads to genuine victims not getting the support they deserve.
    what next i wonder?Why hasnt the so-called "men in power" realised this and acted upon it?
    That is the reason i once posted on secular blog,that the "men in power" shouldve made the feminists sign a treaty of equality,that if the fems break that treaty all rights and privileges given to women be revoked;if that were so it wouldnt be us men lamenting and unable to do a thing,it'd be the women community who wouldnt let the fems run rampant.

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    This original article is not very useful. I don't really know through it what she actually said, and she doesn't have any power anyway. I'm sure this is a real issue but that does a very poor job of convincing me there might be a problem.

    Now the one idea being proposed that really is objectionable is that it is the subjective feeling of the parents that should determine whether the child should have his life protected. I don't know if anyone honestly believes that, but if their actions support it it's naturally OK to point that out. But until someone can post a better source than this loon, there's nothing that can be said more.

    I actually think this is a more complex issue than propagandists would have you believe. You could see my posts back here A collection of dumped babies - Victoria's Secret .

    I for one as Liam has just mentioned believe that whether the baby has 'severe birth defects' should be a big deal. No one wants to talk about that mainly because no one wants to think of it happening to them. I don't think anyone seriously doubted that such babies could or should be killed until Christianity came around and even then it continued to be practised most of the time. The fact that people can consider it a sound, or even the only reasonable, decision to kill it during pregnancy for that reason but not to do so after birth is really disturbing. Even if we could perfectly reliably and in all cases diagnose such problems in early pregnancy it wouldn't change the moral issue, and therefore I think his comment:
    Quote Quote from Liam O'Callan"
    ... child was quietly suffocated. Not the kind of decision anyone wants to make. Not even sure if I approve of it either but the idea had much practical merit. Frankly I'd rather such a child not even reach the third trimester ...
    is not really pertinent, though I know he just didn't completely think it through as I have.

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    the abortion industry is another star in the lousy, amoral selfserving feminit idology : implicit in it is that wimyn living in the First World, largly created for wimyn by men, have been short shrifted and have suffered privations and discrimination and all sorts of other nasty stuff - all at the hands of men

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    According to Harris-Perry, life begins when the parents feel like life begins.
    Are you sure that this is an accurate quote? I'm sure "parents" is a euphemism for "mothers."
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    I have no doubts that it will be male children that will be put to death in greater numbers then female children.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.


 

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