The Spearhead: Article Says Men's Rights Groups Frighten Feminists

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From syg.com

Men’s Rights Groups “Frightening” Feminists
by W.F. Price on November 6, 2009

A reader sent me an article about men’s rights groups that was published yesterday in “Double X,” one of the countless feminist blogs that infest the internet. (http://www.doublex.com/section/news-politics/mens-rights-groups-have-become-frighteningly-effective) Ordinarily, I wouldn’t bother commenting on an article written in some obscure femzine, but evidently the author managed to get some statements from a couple of guys who are pretty high up in the fathers’ and men’s rights movement.

The article has all the usual scare-mongering, insinuations that men who fight for justice are “abusers,” and quotes from manginas who are in on the feminist racket. Discredited DV statistics are held to be canon, and MRA tactics equated with DV, etc. As a divorced man who went through a custody dispute, I know that it is very easy to be labeled a “perpetrator” or “abuser” without having broken any laws at all – even without being arrested and/or charged with anything – so I’m familiar with the technique, but it still gets my blood pressure up when I see it. Here’s an example from the article just to illustrate the point: [ ... ]

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/11/06/mens-rights-groups-frightening-feminists/

[NowHearThis]

Maybe some feminists need to be frightened. They keep most of the male population shaking in their boots all the time.

[Douglas]

From the article that the Spearhead is reporting, notice the quotes:
The growing power of the men

...MRA discussions of custody inequality and recruitment ads, [] cast all men as potentially innocent victims “just one 911 call away” from losing everything they have earned and loved. These rallying calls, and the divorce attorneys hawking men’s rights expertise on MRA sites, promising to “teach her a lesson,” serve as what Dawson sees as a powerful draw for men in the midst of painful divorces.

Well, I'm not American, so I might not be familiar with some of this. So I did a Google search on “just one 911 call away” and guess what? All I could find was feminist reports that MRA discussions say this. Perhaps one person on some obscure website once wrote this phrase but since it is quoted, I would expect to see it appear loud and clear on MRA websites, not simply repeated by feminists who want to make readers scared of men and their calls for rights.

Searching for “teach her a lesson” proved a non-starter, since there's everything from a pop group to educational sites. However, when I added "MRA" into the search, it showed once again that this isn't so much something the MRAs say but is something that feminist sites say that MRAs say.

There are liars
	damned liars
		and feminists.

[chevalier]

That article is nothing more than another feminist twisting truth into something that suits her purposes.

Men are in fact just one 911 call away from losing everything. One false DV call one false rape call one false accusation of child molestation one false restraining order.

Those are all commonly approved and well used tactics that feminists support either openly or by doing nothing to fight such an obvious ploy.

The author of this piece of tripe relies on her readers to assume that women are perpetual victims and and utterly perfect in every way.

They paint every woman as the Virgin Mary,a rape victim and an ubused wife all in one.

THe statistics that we use are not cherry picked as she claims. But since they do not show the above described paradigm of women then according to feminists they cannot be true.

What feminists like her are unable to see is that exposing the warts of women while embarrassing in the short run, would actually benefit women in the long run.

[Popadibs]

Maybe some feminists need to be frightened. They keep most of the male population shaking in their boots all the time.

I think most men are too foolish to be educated about these issues. They are ignorant and think they know better. It is like talking to a brick wall except a brick wall can't antagonize you. It may be possible that on some level men may already know about these things but believe that if they meet the right woman it will never happen to them. They put too much faith in a woman and it is a stupid concept anyway. How can a man be okay with the possibility of a woman royally screwing him over just as long as he ends up with a woman that won't do it?

I don't see women being okay with the possibility of a man royally screwing women over just as long as she ends up with a man that won't do it. To take it a step further, I don't see many women being okay with the possibility of a man not being screwed over if a woman accuses him of something. I even see many women being okay with women screwing men over. Women have learned to value womanhood even if the way they value it is superficial. Men feel the need for women to validate them. Men are like blacks seeking validation from the KKK. The difference between whites and women is that whites generally reject the hate campaign that is the KKK but women don't reject the hate campaign of feminism. So there is a difference between a klu klux klan member and a white person but there is little difference between many women and a feminist. Feminists influence anti-male policies to be implemented and women embrace these anti-male policies.

Added after 11 minutes:

That article is nothing more than another feminist twisting truth into something that suits her purposes.

Men are in fact just one 911 call away from losing everything. One false DV call one false rape call one false accusation of child molestation one false restraining order.

Those are all commonly approved and well used tactics that feminists support either openly or by doing nothing to fight such an obvious ploy.

When it is pointed out that most in power are men wouldn't you agree that most men are not in power?

If we pointed out that most of these active radical feminists are women they'd probably point out that most women are not radical active feminists. (It is okay for them to use such tactics to demonize men but it isn't okay for men to return the favor.)

Now, while most of the people supporting the evil used against men by helping to influence such anti-male policies may very well be feminists, most of the people making 911 calls that cause men to lose everything aren't radical feminists, most of the people making false DV calls against men aren't radical feminists, most of the people making false rape calls against men aren't radical feminists, most of the people making false accusations of child molestation against men aren't radical feminists and most of the people using false restraining orders against men are not radical feminists. Most of the people that do these things to men are women, average, typical women.

[chevalier]

While it is true that it is not radical feminists that make the majority of false allegations it is also true that it is the radical feminists that make it possible.

So the root of the problem is still radical feminists and they are the ones that we must defeat.

If we fight the average woman then we will lose what support we have. Besides the average woman who does such things does not think she is doing anything wrong such has been the indoctrination from radical feminists their whole lives.

And no men are not in charge. We may have a majority of male politicians and business leaders but most of them are too piss scared of women's groups to do anything but fall in line with feminist wishes.

[Duran]

Imo, the conclusion I've came to about women in general is this:

If all it took for women to hate their fathers, brothers, husbands and sons was the illusion of a better life through feminism then women, as a collective gender, have no morality.

It's as simple as that really. If we want to get things done, it has to be attained from the hard work and fortitude of men, not women.

[Popadibs]

While it is true that it is not radical feminists that make the majority of false allegations it is also true that it is the radical feminists that make it possible.

So the root of the problem is still radical feminists and they are the ones that we must defeat.

If we fight the average woman then we will lose what support we have. Besides the average woman who does such things does not think she is doing anything wrong such has been the indoctrination from radical feminists their whole lives.

And no men are not in charge. We may have a majority of male politicians and business leaders but most of them are too piss scared of women's groups to do anything but fall in line with feminist wishes.

The elites are the root of this (and if satan is real then some would say satan is the root of it) but they may have created such a monster that their puppets, the politicians, are "afraid" to oppose them because of the public outrage. Really though, they have armies, cops, etc. at their disposal. Feminism gets its power through them and they get their power through tools like feminism. They fear losing their power. They know that by appeasing the fems it grants them more security in their position.

I am not defending radical feminists, far be it from me, but I know that we often point out the feminists to avoid pointing out the bad women in order to avoid seeming misogynistic. Radical feminists couldn't do what they do without the support of enough people. Do you think that feminism could exist without women's support? Yes, some dumbass men jumped on the bandwagon but they supported it cause women supported it and they supported women.

Women are not excused just because they do not think they are doing anything wrong because of indoctrination. How many women would excuse me or any men here for showing anger towards women even though we don't believe we're doing anything wrong because of what we're learning on here, which, they may label as indoctrination?

Radical feminists are the body but the government is what made their radicalism possible and therefore the government is the head. We can kill the body by destroying the head of a snake but that doesn't mean that a snake won't use its body to defend itself in this case. If we have to dispose of a few tails along the way then so be it. All enemies are created equal.

[Yan Yan]

Popadibs:

I think most men are too foolish to be educated about these issues. They are ignorant and think they know better. It is like talking to a brick wall except a brick wall can't antagonize you. It may be possible that on some level men may already know about these things but believe that if they meet the right woman it will never happen to them. They put too much faith in a woman and it is a stupid concept anyway. How can a man be okay with the possibility of a woman royally screwing him over just as long as he ends up with a woman that won't do it?

I'm not really comfortable with the role of commentator/scapegoat for SE Asia but I sliced that excellent comment because it rings so true. When western men head east they think they've left all their problems behind. The majority are same the brick-walls that Popadibs describes.

When they wash up on these tropical beaches they find women that smile, women that pour their drinks for them and massage their aching back. Their brains turn to jelly. They throw money around in bars and buy land and property that they can never own and ascribe the title to their wife or girlfriend.

When older hands advise caution they respond with, "My wife/girlfriend/concubine/live-in partner would never do that. Yeah right!

Asian women are not feminists. Our governments can't afford a wasteful welfare state. When working men and women support their feckless brothers and sisters it's about family values, not some vague concept of universal socialism.

The western men bring their baggage - exactly as Popadibs describes. After the initial "rush" of playing God, they begin to suspect that they are being "used". Well, at least they are being respectfully used. But they soon turn on the host culture as if it's somehow dysfunctional, while everything back home is perfect and beautiful. So why did they leave?

That's about as logical as asking western men in western societies, "Why do you stay?"

Popadibs has posed a very important question. Who are the real victims here?

[Popadibs]

Popadibs has posed a very important question. Who are the real victims here?

Since most men are foolish and won't listen anyways then they are like casualties to warn wise men. They are like a trail of dead bodies to warn men "you are not welcomed here" for those that are smart enough to heed the warning. Men are like someone building a house and they see a storm coming and they say "look, a storm is coming, other people will die but it will not hit me" and then when the storm hits them they are shocked and perish.

So who are the victims?

Men and women are victims of deceit, men are catalysts to their (and our) castration and men and women are both advocators of the abyss that awaits them. There are many victims but not every victim is innocent.

[Duran]

Popadibs has posed a very important question. Who are the real victims here?

Men.

[Black Knight]

Victims? The taxpayers are universal victims paying for the welfare state. Second are the children born to the dysfunctional and unstable families. Third are the males naive enough to legally bind themselves. Fourth are the non-indoctrinated women in this generation who are wholesale being prejudged by wiser males as unmarriageable due to the actions of many other women. Fifth are the executers - the indoctrinated women who actually do drag a male or two through the dirt and expect to retain marriageability into their forties. Sixth are males in general, being scapegoats and expendable, fired wholesale from employment.

Since everyone can claim victim status, let's not be the victims. I hate being a victim.

My favourite line from the article:

Local groups in West Virginia and California have also had important successes, criminalizing false claims of domestic violence in custody cases, and winning rulings that women-only shelters are discriminatory.

Um, so what's "frightening" there? It's simple justice. DV can easily ruin a man's life, making him unhireable in an economy where well-qualified people have it rough. Criminalizing frivolous claims is a big positive.

So what FRIGHTENS the author about the truth?

[Douglas]

Who are the real victims here?

Children.

And the adults they become.

Hence, society as a whole.

[Yan Yan]

Children.

And the adults they become.

Hence, society as a whole.

Agree Douglas, but we've come full circle. Men are either forced out of the lives of their children or their influence on the next generation is minimized wherever possible. Real male role-models are taboo. This results in dysfunctional children.
So who's to blame for dysfunctional children? Why, men of course!

IMHO men need to stay involved in the lives of their children if they can, against the odds and at considerable cost. Kid's are not stupid and they are not clean slates on which any kind of rubbish can be imprinted. Once they have formed a secure bond with their father it's all over by the shouting.

Ex-wives may spew their venom, feminists may spread their shallow propaganda and politicians may lick the arses of lobby groups, but when the kids say, "Hey, that's my Dad you're talking about", the battle is won.

Feminists know this. Distancing fathers from their children is the prime target.