Better 'advice' than usual.

She didn't have to drink alcohol, and anyone who knows what alcohol is also knows that it impairs you judgement. Of course it's not rape; she just wanted drunken sex and not have to be responsible afterwards.

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She didn't have to drink alcohol, and anyone who knows what alcohol is also knows that it impairs you judgement. Of course it's not rape; she just wanted drunken sex and not have to be responsible afterwards.

That's the word, "RESPONSIBLE". Some elements of society believe that they have a right to do what they want without taking responsibility for their actions. And there are plenty of government and public service entities that encourage them to believe this.

It is clear what any man erroneously accused of rape should do: simply state that he was drunk, and therefore wishes to file charges against the woman for raping him.

Unfortunately, this is an obvious card to play for the few REAL rapists, too, but that's the price we are all going to have to pay for a society that can't determine the difference between someone taking irresponsible actions, and someone forced into actions against their will.

If someone spikes anothers' drink to get their agreement, then it could be argued that any consent given was not freely made. But when they deliberately spike their own drink (which is what drinking alcohol is, effectively) then they have to take responsibility for having done so. That's why a driver is convicted for driving under the influence of drugs, not the passengers.

(N.B. I drink alcohol, this is not an abstinence campaign, just a responsibility issue.)

Good grief. If only all women lived in this environment.

The more I think about analogies, the more the idea that someone can make another responsible for their drunken state is ridiculous.

Feminists want:
▌I was drunk when I had sex, therefore the person man I had sex with is guilty of abuse.

If society is to give that the slightest attention, it should be applied uniformly for all circumstances:
▌I was drunk when I drove, therefore the person I crashed into is guilty of abuse.
▌I was drunk when I signed a loan agreement, therefore the person I borrowed from is guilty of abuse.
▌I was drunk when I spent money in a shop, therefore the shopkeeper is guilty of abuse.
▌I was drunk when I agreed to join the gang that robbed the shop, therefore the other robbers are guilty of abuse.
▌I was drunk when I resisted arrest, therefore the policeman is guilty of abuse.

That's madness. Anyone wanting to do something improper or stupid just drinks beforehand, then nothing is their fault and they can point the finger at someone else (whether they were drunk or not) and get away with .. what? Murder?

People who deliberately put themselves into a state that disables their own ability to make good decisions have to be responsible for their actions.

I've done stupid things while drunk. No-one else is to blame for that: it's my own stupid fault.

Agreeing to have sex (whether or not you remember agreeing) is very different to having someone assault you while you are drunk. Whether it is robbery, rape, or anything else, being attacked against your will is just that and it doesn't matter if you are drunk or not. But being too drunk to make a good decision about who, when or whether to have sex doesn't invalidate a decision made and gives no right to blame anyone but yourself.

I wonder, if I called a rape crisis center and told them that my girlfriend had sex with me after I had alcohol, would they tell me to have my ex-girlfriends prosecuted as rapists?

Under English law, only men can rape. And feminists want it kept that way, as proven recently on Mumsnet feminist forum when they ranted about the law review which suggested making the law gender neutral... you know, so women can have equality under the law.

So when my ex came home from the pub drunk out of her mind,demanded and forced sex on me(sober),am I still raping her?

Applying the same principle, a bride who has too much champagne on her wedding reception, can qualify the groom as a rapist in their wedding night. Perish the thought that men are all guilty of rape on their first day of their marriage.

NEVO

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So when my ex came home from the pub drunk out of her mind,demanded and forced sex on me(sober),am I still raping her?

YES!!!!

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So when my ex came home from the pub drunk out of her mind,demanded and forced sex on me(sober),am I still raping her?

According to feminist mantra "all men are rapists" and they will twist reality into pretzels to prove it!

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YES!!!!

Congratulations. You have passed the secret 'can I be a male feminist' test with flying colours.

You can now join our secret male-feminist society membership.

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Is this a male-only club? Is there a fee? If so, are male and female feminists charged the same, or do the women get a discount?
Are there urinals in the restroom? Are there gender quotas for membership and leadership? Is there a dictionary of approved terminology?

Alcohol lowers your inhibitions. It doesn't change whom you are and what you want to do. These "Get-out-of-guilt-and-shame-free Cards" that women use are abominal. I understand now why bars and taverns were traditionally male-only establishments. NO WOMEN ALLOWED. I wouldn't be surprised if such places started to pop up again within a decade.

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Is this a male-only club?

That wouldn't be very feminist minded, now, would it?

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Is there a fee?

Only for male members.

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If so, are male and female feminists charged the same, or do the women get a discount?

Duh - this is a feminist initiative... Women get in for FREE obviously. And get a fast-track program to leadership positions... unless they're pro-male women, in which case they are kept in a cupboard and whispered about by the other female members. Male members aren't allowed to whisper about the bad women though, that would be sexist.

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Are there urinals in the restroom?

Yes, and don't forget our etiquette rule of sitting down to pee as it is entirely disrespectful for a man to stand peeing. Of course, we supply tools for women to stand and pee though.

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Are there gender quotas for membership and leadership?

Yes, women 80% leadership - to be fast tracked as described above.

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Is there a dictionary of approved terminology?

Dunno. If there isn't, blame the nearest man to your left.