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    Women don't deserve equal prize money, insists Frenchman Simon

    By MIKE DICKSON
    Wimbledon 2012: Women don't deserve equal prize money - Gilles Simon | Mail Online

    French tennis star Gilles Simon has shocked Wimbledon by claiming women players do not deserve equal pay with men. The prize-money for men and women at Wimbledon has been the same since 2007, but Simon, the No 13 seed who plays on Court No 1 on Wednesday against Belgian Xavier Malisse, claims equal pay is wrong.
    Simon, who has just been elected to the Association of Tennis Professionals council, said: ‘Equal pay doesn’t work in sport. We talk a lot about it but I don’t think it works.

    Indeed, equal pay doesn't work in sports because some athletes are better than others.
    It's not sexism, it's not misogyny, it's a fact of life!


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    Re: Women don't deserve equal prize money, insists Frenchman Simon

    I agree. Men are way better athletes than the females usually, so obviously they are going to get better pay for better performances.

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    Re: Women don't deserve equal prize money, insists Frenchman Simon

    Men play longer matches against far better opponents. So why should women, who play shorter matches against weaker opponents than the men have to face, get the same money? It's the classic misrepresentation of "equality", female-style. Equal pay for unequal work. And of course, virulently attack anyone who dares to point out the hypocrisy. The only way that women tennis players outdo the men is in the extraordinary animal noises they make - but does that make them worthy of equal prize money?

    Same in the Olympics. Women get gold medals that are valued equally to men's gold medals, for measurably worse performances against measurably weaker opponents. A woman who can run 100 metres in 11 seconds will earn a place in the Olympics, and possibly the chance of a medal, followed by fame and fortune. A man who can run 100 metres in 10.6 seconds can forget about ever competing in the Olympics because he won't get selected. No chance of any medals for him, no glory and nobody will notice him. Yet he is better than the woman...

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    Re: Women don't deserve equal prize money, insists Frenchman Simon

    I say - have one competition with one prize (or set of prizes). The women will earn the prizes they deserve just by normal play.

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    Quiet At US Open? WTA Plans Crackdown On ‘Excessive Grunting’

    Quiet At US Open? WTA Plans Crackdown On 'Excessive Grunting' In Women's Tennis « CBS New York

    NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – Ah, the sounds of summer. What would late August in Queens be without the crack of the bat at Citi Field – and the shrieks from right next door at Flushing’s USTA Billie Jean King National Tennis Center? We may soon find out on the latter.A plan to crack down on ultra-loud grunting in women’s tennis has been “unanimously green-lighted” by the WTA players’ council, representatives from all four majors and the International Tennis Federation, according to USA Today.

    Good!
    What took them so long?
    The WTA is a big enough joke without the princesses screaming like impulse driven primates every time they hit the tennis ball.
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    Re: Women don't deserve equal prize money, insists Frenchman Simon

    I'd think it would be high time to have all-female sports and all-male sports. No overlap, and no "let me play so I can be equal...but still mess up the average because I'm too strong/weak."

    If men where only compared to other men, and women only compared to other women then there would be no bias.

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    I'd think it would be high time to have all-female sports and all-male sports. No overlap, and no "let me play so I can be equal...but still mess up the average because I'm too strong/weak."
    Unfortunately that day will never come as long as the privileged t------s turn green every time they see male athletes outperforming them and getting paid more!
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    I say - have one competition with one prize (or set of prizes). The women will earn the prizes they deserve just by normal play.
    This happens in a very few sports, such as equestrian and some sailing competitions. Those are the only times when women genuinely show that they can compete equally to men. (There are also a few times when women and men compete alongside one another against other women and men, such as badminton mixed doubles.)
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    Re: Women don't deserve equal prize money, insists Frenchman Simon

    If they want equal pay in tennis the let them play five set matches like the men do


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    Unfortunately that day will never come as long as the privileged t------s turn green every time they see male athletes outperforming them and getting paid more!
    Which I find to be ridiculous.

    After all, the vast majority of men ARE stronger than the vast majority of women...that's just how it is. We are predisposed to have more body fat, so although every human body has the same muscles, women have a harder time keeping a muscular figure. That's no reason to "punish" someone with a lower salary, but letting them get away with doing less is!

    The sexes have innate biological differences, much as some would like to deny it. For example, women are better at differentiating colors while men are better at seeing movement. We compliment each other, and while I'm certainly not against someone who wants to stay single (like you and I, Zuberi) or devotes their life to becoming the best they can be, I do wish we would remember that.

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    Re: Women don't deserve equal prize money, insists Frenchman Simon

    Well said, Traveller.
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    Aside from Tennis, who watches women's sports to begin with?
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    Well said, Traveller.
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    It's the pure and simple truth. Men need women, women need men. In the past, our reliance on one another meant "Do or Die" for present and future generations. Someone had to get the dietary meat/ protect the tribe...the same as someone had to get the dietary plants/care for the children.

    In modern times, we are only a tribe in the absolute loosest definition. Families don't even care for each other, so there's little reason to expect our community or even immediate neighbors to care for the well being of our "tribe".

    In learning how to send messages hundred of miles instantly, we've ensured that we don't even know the names of our closest neighbors.

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    *Shrug*

    It's the pure and simple truth. Men need women, women need men. In the past, our reliance on one another meant "Do or Die" for present and future generations. Someone had to get the dietary meat/ protect the tribe...the same as someone had to get the dietary plants/care for the children.

    In modern times, we are only a tribe in the absolute loosest definition. Families don't even care for each other, so there's little reason to expect our community or even immediate neighbors to care for the well being of our "tribe".

    In learning how to send messages hundred of miles instantly, we've ensured that we don't even know the names of our closest neighbors.
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    Aside from Tennis, who watches women's sports to begin with?
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