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    Old 26th-November-2009
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    White Ribbon Day in forum's sight

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    THERE is an angry core of Australian men who use cyberspace
    as the latest forum to unload on how women have done them
    wrong

    A few weeks ago we ran a column on The Punch website,
    examining their emergence. The piece documented how even
    those columns with the most innocent subject matter, such as
    breast cancer, maternity leave, child care or body image become
    a vehicle whereby crotchety men can bemoan the apparent
    neglect of men's health issues, the economic pressures faced by
    single dads and the raw deal they get from the courts.

    The article had the unsurprising effect of attracting, well, an angry core of Australian men who use cyberspace as a forum to unload on how women have done them wrong.

    There was a depressingly pertinent example of this mindset this week and it's worth pinging the perpetrators over it, as it demonstrated all the nonsensical self-pity of the men-are-victims-too brigade.

    Bizarrely enough, the target of their anger this time was White Ribbon Day - you know, the wildly radical outfit that believes it's wrong to hit women, which argues that the overwhelming majority of victims of physical violence in the home are women, and that women are more likely to be sent to hospital or killed as a result of domestic violence.

    Yes, the same apparently sinister organisation that believes it is appropriate that boys and young men should have their thinking challenged at a deliberately early age on the subject of how they treat girls and young women.

    Let me be clear. The White Ribbon Day people argue those things because they are actually true. They advocate education programs for young blokes because the best way to address bad thinking is to nip it in the bud.

    But it was White Ribbon Day that copped a clip over the ear from the Men's Rights Agency, which is the closest thing we have to an American-style woe-is-us men's movement in Australia.

    I'm not sure how they do their sums but they claim that the domestic violence figures - official government statistics, no less - used by White Ribbon Day organisers have been exaggerated by 400 per cent and that one in every three victims of domestic violence is a man.

    There is no evidence provided by the Men's Rights Agency to back up this claim of one in three, unless by domestic violence they are also counting psychological violence of the "For God's sake, honey, will you stop watching the footy and just mow the bloody lawn" variety.

    Their distortion of the stats is one thing. However, if they want to suggest that 33.3 per cent of domestic violence victims are called Nige and Bazza, and are hiding in the broom cupboard begging for mercy as the little lady gives them the rounds of the kitchen, sensible people will see it for the crock that it is.

    But their continuing attempts to win a cheap headline and deter government from financing childhood education projects through White Ribbon Day should be deplored.

    Parents are reporting their concerns when their sons come home wearing the WR wristband and then begin asking questions, which suggest the boys fear their future will be one of violence, the Men's Rights Agency said this week.

    The MRA says there is no excuse for the intrusion of the White Ribbon message into our schools, particularly with their brand of over-exaggeration of male violence and denial of violence by females.

    Setting aside the fact that there's no such thing as an over-exaggeration, it would be nice if the Men's Rights people could line up this army of angry families who are appalled by this innocent educational gesture and, while they're at it, maybe they can also wheel out those long-suffering men for whom home is a place of terror.

    Otherwise, we should just recognise it for the cant that it is.




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    Re: White Ribbon Day in forum's sight

    Good god....

    First of all she is right that more women than men are injured (it is about 40/60) and killed (33/67 data from meta analysis). Secondly someone should send her the Fielbert list...actually, data is on our side.



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    Re: White Ribbon Day in forum's sight

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    Good god....

    First of all she is right that more women than men are injured (it is about 40/60) and killed (33/67 data from meta analysis). Secondly someone should send her the Fielbert list...actually, data is on our side.
    And that is why it's so... defiled to still have the guts to claim 'the men's right advocates have nothing to back up their claims' while the only evidence they provide are women studies or often just only a 'because it is true' statement. That's hardly evidence.

    Among her many falsehoods she states we are exagorating our violence claims. I don't see how we have exagorated violence claims while feminists like these are trying to claim an exclusive monopoly to being victimized. And NO, children should not be bombarded and indoctrinated with this nonsense. It is brainwashing, they are trying to teach girls they do not require to know boundaries and that they are somehow 'holier' than boys and boys are only taught to feel ashamed about themselves for things they haven't done... just because of things that supposedly others before them have (supposedly hence they are being told lies to turn them dysfunctional).


     
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    However, if they want to suggest that 33.3 per cent of domestic violence victims are called Nige and Bazza, and are hiding in the broom cupboard begging for mercy as the little lady gives them the rounds of the kitchen, sensible people will see it for the crock that it is.
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    and, while they're at it, maybe they can also wheel out those long-suffering men for whom home is a place of terror.
    Again it's the mocking tactics to dispel any idea of inclusion for male DV victims.

    Worst still, it's a male writer, no doubt some feminist types will pat him on his head and tell him "what a good boy" which is probably not quite the sort of reward he had in mind. He's been well trained though, feminists love 'useful idiots,' and he certainly is.



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