Thread: UK police to open files on domestic abusers

To all men in the U.K........RUN!


Isn't being accused the same as being guilty?

All the time I am telling all sane men to get out of the UK.

I am happy to offer an escape line/refugee help here in the feminist-free Republic of Poland and help men start a new life.

There are no shotage of reasonably well paid jobs as english teachers here, and the women are....women, feminist free AND... beautiful!

Is this law for women only or is it portrayed as women only to appeal to them?

"Sarah's law" was recently discussed on early morning TV, about two weeks back. The father of Sarah Payne (the girl the law has been named after) was interviewed by the two presenters, who repeatedly portrayed only females as victims and only males as perpetrators. The father went along with it for so long but after several minutes of propaganda, spoke out and corrected them, saying (paraphrased), "Let me make this clear. This law is for anyone who needs it - men & women. It is not just for women who want to gain information. Men can too if they believe his girlfriend is hiding something." As you can probably imagine, I nearly shit myself with excitement when he did this, on live TV. To actually state that it's not just a "woman's law" was quite an impressive feat.

[QUOTE=Richard;288031Hell, why not give them our finanical history as well to see if it is worth their while to sue a man[/QUOTE]

Very good !!!!

Quote from outdoors

Isn't being accused the same as being guilty?

"a history of domestic violence" should work BOTH ways - accuser as well as accused. Dating via Facebook? Is there no common sense left at all?

Wood had made multiple allegations that her boyfriend had harassed, assaulted and threatened to kill her

The "alleged perpetrator" in the article fits the profile of a falsely accused male perfectly . . . I mean come on folks, people don't kill for no reason ( seriously, no action taken? ) AND then kill themselves too?

The USA (Harris County, Texas ) has such a "self-help" database (edit: and apparently it's applicability, jurisdiction is universal?) -> Register Her.

The major concern I have with this proposed law is that men who are accused and exonerated would still be listed. As we all know, men are guilty until proven innocent in DV matters. A man gets angry at his wife/girlfriend and yells at her, if he gets taken into custody, BAM he's on the public list no matter if he is innocent of any DV or abuse.

Is this law for women only or is it portrayed as women only to appeal to them?

Thought the same myself Marx.

After a few quick searches it was hard to find exact details of the law, but bucket-loads of feminist comment. Lovely picture of a loathsome male on the RT site.

That's how the media works these days.

Old story that bears repeating:
In the heyday of the USSR there were two national newspapers, PRAVDA (truth) and ISVESTIYA (news).
Ordinary Russians used to say that in truth there's no news and in news there's no truth.

Quote from Richard

All the time I am telling all sane men to get out of the UK.

I am happy to offer an escape line/refugee help here in the feminist-free Republic of Poland and help men start a new life.

There are no shotage of reasonably well paid jobs as english teachers here, and the women are....women, feminist free AND... beautiful!

That would be a perfect solution. All the men/anti-feminists escape British insanity and make new lives in Poland. Without an underclass to take advantage of and sponge off of, the feminists remaining will be unable to function. I predict the island itself will sink in a week.

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The major concern I have with this proposed law is that men who are accused and exonerated would still be listed. As we all know, men are guilty until proven innocent in DV matters. A man gets angry at his wife/girlfriend and yells at her, if he gets taken into custody, BAM he's on the public list no matter if he is innocent of any DV or abuse.

I agree there. It'd make accusations alone an even more powerful weapon. He doesn't have to even yell, merely be accused of yelling. Even if there is no evidence, and even if he can prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he was not guilty, he'd still have the accusation on his record.

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Ordinary Russians used to say that in truth there's no news and in news there's no truth.

You should use that in your signature.

...Appleton had a horrific history of violence against women

If such a statement can be proven, then it should have been proven in a court of law.

If it was proven in a court of law, then records of his trial, conviction and sentence are in the public domain.

Such records can be accessed already by anyone willing to pay a relatively nominal sum to companies who collate the records and make them easily available (for example, http://recordsdirectories.com/uk/ind...?type=Criminal).

If the statement is just an accusation and is unproven, then I would hope that anyone - including the government - stating that someone has committed violence would be sued under existing libel laws.

Of course, the law won't work:
1) Domestic violence is often (not always) something that sparks between two people. If either of them have different partners, living under different circumstances, the violence won't happen.
2) A lot of domestic violence is to some extent mutual. However, with our current laws only one perpetrator tends to be punished, and that is very often the male.
3) While men might (perhaps) commit more domestic violence than women, women commence abuse that leads to domestic violence more than men. So if a man inherently capable of violence toward his partner has never been with an abusive woman he might never have been violent. One form of abuse is undeserved lack of trust. A woman who feels it necessary to check up on a man (rather then just spending time getting to know him) is more likely to be abusive in her distrust, which by itself can lead to mutual domestic abuse or even mutual violence.
4) Women like 'bad boys'. There will be a significant number of women who will target men who have been accused of being abusive, especially if they aren't so bad that they have a criminal record.

The death of someone is always tragic. Clare Wood's death at the hands of a brutal killer is tragic. However, no death should be made into a political campaign that has the chance of a tragic outcome for the rest of society.

this is not Marxist methodology is it !

the state decides what is best for citizens, those not Kosher can expect adverse consequences aided and abetted by the Marxist feminit law ( it hates men) the police and the courts