I'm not surprised however "Agent Orange" wasn't mentioned... I will note that like Jessica Valenti, they relate a completely non-MRA criminal "Scott Evans Dekraai" (actually several of them) to mens rights activism...

"The first shots in this so-called war on feminism were fired 22 years before Tom Ball’s suicide. On Dec. 6, 1989, Marc Lépine, a troubled 25-year-old computer student, strolled into the Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal, Canada, carrying a Ruger Mini-14 semi-automatic rifle and a hunting knife. He walked into a classroom, ordered the men to leave, and lined the women up against a wall.“I am fighting feminism,” he announced before opening fire. “You’re women, you’re going to be engineers. You’re all a bunch of feminists. I hate feminists.”...

Did we embrace him? Not in the slightest!

Just like Martin Luther King Jr didn't advocate the actions of Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale.(it it so hard to not find feminized civil rights articles on the net...)

Gloria Steinem and Andrea Dorkin however have never tried to distance themselves from Valerie Solanas

I know it's a bit on a tangent, but I'm surprised that Manhood Academy isn't on their hit list either. O_O

This is how movements get on the map, not at a moment of their choosing, but when someone aims a spotlight at one and names it that. Whether it be a "movement", whatever that means, or a broad commonality of ideas, or a media construct, or one journalist's take on three court cases, or the top page on a keyword search, or whatever, once the term "movement" is designated publicly to a thing, the terms and conditions of its movementness become in public perception whatever the dominant message is about it, not from it. Add to that all the countless other single-issue or specialized "movements" on the internet, plus the lengthy queues that seek, await or avoid larger public reinterpretation of any of them, and a thing could be named as a movement at any time or never at all.

This is why I am careful of titles and labels for sets of ideas, and for their outward manifestations. For decades I have cultivated an eye for propaganda, the stuff it is made of, how it works, its underlying organizational principles, its code words and keywords, its emotional cues, its history, its weaknesses. Now with the net and hyperlink and millions of websites generating mountains of content every minute, the use of propaganda is more pervasive than ever, but also blunted in a way by its sheer mass and constancy. An architecture of keywording and search hierarchies and sharing makes it absolutely possible to reach a global audience in microseconds, but also makes the achievement mundane. So there is no telling who will tune in when or what they will make of what they find.

Propaganda is both art and science. The methods for gathering material are as sophisticated as any other pursuit of information in the digital age, and online technology puts its creation and dissemination at everyone's fingertips. But the internet runs on advertising of ideas as much as products or services, all of it designed to try and get you to respond to one thing against literally infinite choices of what to click on. Getting the horse to water is science, but making him drink is definitely an art.

The word "movement" is essentially an artistic cliche in non-movement discussions of it, sort of the chosen medium on which to show a picture. That picture could be a post card ("Greetings from the Women's Movement") or a Wanted poster ("Armed and Dangerous: Men's Movement.") Both of them cheap, mass-produced and temporary. How the interpretation of the original picture plays to the public, and whether or not that narrative lasts as the dominant one, is largely a contest between artists over public approval. In a way, what a movement has to say about itself then becomes a very small part of a much bigger picture. But whether big media outlets pick up a new cliche about something being called a movement and broadcast it or not, is not necessarily a determining factor any more as to which version will last, either. They have infinite competition now, including each of us.

It's anybody's guess what the term "men's movement" or "men's rights movement" might become long-term, but I think it is safe to say that the idea of one has reached its entry point into history.

Congratulations, boys, we're in the big leagues now, and we gotta pitch and hit the pitching to stay here. Play ball...

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While there certainly are rant posts and some posters who express caution of women, the proof and evidence that this site contains makes it FAR too dangerous to attempt to point out as anything other than an accurate assessment of misandry in society.

They don't need facts to accuse AM of being a hate site. They just need their irrational hatred of men's rights.

Still, there is a little number called the First Amendment. Did I say this already - the FBI can kiss my ass if they think they're gonna try and harass me for being a MRA? Yeah I think I said that before. Kiss my ass FBI. You ought to be keeping a better eye on the banksters and Russian Mafia and MS13, or better yet all those armed militias that have exploded by 700% since the evil dark skinned boogeyman got in office.

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It's disappointing AM didn't make their hit-list.

Dont worry Marx I am sure they will get round to us )-:

...and I wonder why SPLC haven't gone to misandrist or even (at least) radical feminist sites. If they're going to talk about misogyny (or their misinterpreted definition of it), they need to talk about misandry too. It's really bad when they can't tell what is criticism and what is actually hatred--I think it's due to a lack of comprehension skills provided by sorry school systems during all these years...and the list they have provided aren't even misogynist!

If you look at their website, it shows they support LGBT. Thus we are the enemy

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...and I wonder why SPLC haven't gone to misandrist or even (at least) radical feminist sites. If they're going to talk about misogyny (or their misinterpreted definition of it), they need to talk about misandry too. It's really bad when they can't tell what is criticism and what is actually hatred--I think it's due to a lack of comprehension skills provided by sorry school systems during all these years...and the list they have provided aren't even misogynist!

You're surprised? They don't even think there is any such thing as misandry. Otherwise Maureen Dowd's book would have been on the website front page.

Not really surprised. I expected better from them. They are a 'hate watch' site and should act as such. If they're ignoring misandry on purpose, then they have an agenda.

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I'm not surprised however "Agent Orange" wasn't mentioned... I will note that like Jessica Valenti, they relate a completely non-MRA criminal "Scott Evans Dekraai" (actually several of them) to mens rights activism...

"The first shots in this so-called war on feminism were fired 22 years before Tom Ball’s suicide. On Dec. 6, 1989, Marc Lépine, a troubled 25-year-old computer student, strolled into the Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal, Canada, carrying a Ruger Mini-14 semi-automatic rifle and a hunting knife. He walked into a classroom, ordered the men to leave, and lined the women up against a wall.“I am fighting feminism,” he announced before opening fire. “You’re women, you’re going to be engineers. You’re all a bunch of feminists. I hate feminists.”...

Did we embrace him? Not in the slightest!

Just like Martin Luther King Jr didn't advocate the actions of Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale.(it it so hard to not find feminized civil rights articles on the net...)

Gloria Steinem and Andrea Dorkin however have never tried to distance themselves from Valerie Solanas

Even though Marc Lepine is a real person, he has become a strawman............................

TyphonBlue, used to post on SYG (she may still do so, I don't know for sure), reads a collection of feminist posts in response to a man who said he felt suicidal after finding out that SPLC was classifying the MRM as a 'hate movement'...
Now, remember, feminists generally consider themselves as above everyone else...

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Article One

Article Two

Sources indicate that the FBI tracks the "hate groups" tagged by this organization.

Looks like we may end up having a hell of a ride soon.

This will bring more men into the fold.