Feminist Admits Value of Marriage

**Percy** · 18th-December-2008

... for children, at least.

Robert Franklin

Stop the Presses! Marriage benefits children!
2008-12-17 at 12:18 pm · Filed under blog
Writing in Volume 42 of the San Diego Law Review in 2005, then-University of Maryland law professor and feminist Robin Fretwell Wilson gave a masterful summary of existing social science data on the effects of marriage on children. And the data are clear - marriage is good for children. The link is here.

And here is the link to Jim Wooten's piece reporting on it in the December 9, 2008 edition of the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

Children of married couples are, on average, less likely to engage in delinquent behavior, less likely to be suspended or expelled from school and are more likely to go to college than are their peers without married parents.

The data go on to point out why children of married parents have better outcomes; married fathers are more involved in their children's lives than are co-habiting fathers. "Obviously, marriage is differentiating the investment fathers make in their children," and this is true "above and beyond the characteristics of the fathers themselves."

In other words, the fact of marriage does not by itself select better fathers, it makes fathers better.

(P. Whoa, holster that gun, Tex, it means NO SUCH thing. "Other words" indeed. Talk about drawing a long bow.)

And as we know from voluminous other data, children with engaged fathers have better outcomes across the board than do their fatherless peers.

Non-married relationships tend to be brief, with 90% lasting less than five years. During that time, children are worried about the tenuous nature of the adults' relationship. And, since a father's relationship with his child is "coterminus" with his relationship with the child's mother, his emotional, psychological, financial and other investments in the child are heavily dependent on whether he's married to her or not.

So what, if anything, should states do to promote marriage?

Direct subsidies seem pointless and likely to fail because they encourage marriage by people who shouldn't marry and for the wrong reasons.

(P. Amazing that the opposite doesn't seem to apply. Subsidies to single mothers are automatically seen as a good thing yet this chap isn't saying that 'the wrong people' are being encouraged to have babies, is he?)

But educating couples about the value of marriage to children and teaching couples the skills required to form and sustain healthy marriages? Now that's something states can and should do. As Wilson writes, "By supporting marriage, the state is supporting children."

This is another huge set of data supporting fathers' engagement with their children and rebutting the long-held assumptions that marriage is optional and divorce is an adult's free choice. Neither is true. Fathers' rights and children's welfare are intimately intertwined.

http://mensnewsdaily.com/glennsacks/2008/12/17/stop-the-presses-marriage-benefits-children/

**haahoo** · 18th-December-2008

Maybe they should promote the idea that something that is of value to families should not have so much state encouragement for women to wreck..

What most men would like are not incentives to marry (they already exist, or would if there were any women worth marrying, instead of the parade of over-ridden slags most men come across..), men would like to feel secure in a marraige and that the women cant just decide to scrap the deal and run off with the lot, backed by the state thugs..

**Feckless** · 18th-December-2008

What a conclusion by this crazy professor. I have one for you, too. Most children in stable families own a computer. Therefor I must say, computers make families stable.....It is teh truth!!!

**shaazam** · 18th-December-2008

sure !!

after the true value of the matrimonial assets have been calculated in black n white and transferred to her after the Family Court ruling

**nevosopelo** · 18th-December-2008

Americans are great at stating the obvious!!!

Deliquency will be greatly reduced if families are kept together (again stating the obvious)

As women are financially encouraged to break up the family, men are avoiding the pitfalls of marriage by keeping out of it. Hence, the high number of short term relationship.
This fact has not gone unnoticed by brainless politicians. Their solution is to bring in legislation to make living in partners responsible as if they were married.
Any man with average intelligence will know that such legislation will drive a further wage between men and women.

This morning on English channel news was stated that 50%, or over, of children are now in a non married relationship. This generation of children will follow the example of their parents, wisely advised by their fathers not to marry, causing an even larger proportion of unmarried relationships.

"Let marriage whither on the vine, men can only benefit from it!"

NEVO

**christianj** · 18th-December-2008

How typical of feminism to back peddle as soon as the lies they have promoted are clearly demonstrated to be as such..

It's been the Mens Movement continually demonstrating via facts, studies and ongoing promotion that marriage benefits children while feminists have been readily denying the obvious. Promoting divorce, promoting abortions, promoting promiscuity, promoting "you don't need no damn man" at any and every opportunity..

They back peddle and deny their destructive process as they also back peddalled about women (SAHM) wanting to stay at home and raise the kids..

Their blatant hypocrisy is there for all to see..

Will they take credit for the upturn in violence, unwed mothers, reduction in education by children of unwed mothers, drug offences, suicides, gang membership ?

Not in a million years. They are so focussed on their doctrine that those considerations are irrelevant..

Now they try something else while the destruction they leave behind with their societal experimentation leaves generations of human beings in the wreckage that they caused and created..

**nevosopelo** · 18th-December-2008

Anyone who has dealt with human vagaries during his life, will tell you the feminist argument is an unsustanaible one when presented with social facts.
Lamentably, those social consecuences never form part of a political stand, lest the idea be buried under a mountain of nonsenical feminist ideology.

The primary object of the feminist movement is that to deny the truth efusing from those self evident facts.
After that they will vociferously argue against the truth.
Until one day will be accepted as an undeniable truth.

This is the Schopenhauer trilogy.

However, die hard feminist will not oblige no matter what.

NEVO

**Zuberi** · 19th-December-2008

Quote from nevosopelo

Americans are great at stating the obvious!!!

Deliquency will be greatly reduced if families are kept together (again stating the obvious)
Any man with average intelligence will know that such legislation will drive a further wage between men and women.
NEVO

It's a sick game these politicians are playing!
Average man with intelligence would avoid marriage at all cost, but the world is flooded with stupid people!!

**khankrumthebulgar** · 2nd-January-2009

As I predicted after the shoot out in Texas between a Divorced Father and Texas Rangers. Another Man pushed too far came out shooting. Shot his Ex wife dead and 9 others. Church members described him as Friendly and Quiet. The Mexican Man in Tyler Texas, who came to Court with an AK-47, body armor and killed 5 people at the Courthouse. Before he drove his Pick Up Truck onto a Texas Freeway and shot it out with Texas Rangers. Dying in a hail of gunfire. Points out that the tipping point of Men is being reached in the US.

Men should go after Family Court Judges, and Politicians instead. As they are the true enablers of their enslavement by Government. Start shooting Judges who preside over Family Courts and see a change in rulings toward Men. Even Alec Baldwin has written a book about how aggrieved he is at the process. How expensive, unnecessary, oppressive, demeaning and how his Rights were trampled upon.

Marriage in FemAmerica is a former of voluntary Male Slavery to Females. Men should never submit to such nonsense. EVER.

**Percy** · 3rd-January-2009

Americans are great at stating the obvious!!!

Quite a throw-away, non-phrase. If only it were so.

Most of what we say here is stating the obvious. And it has to be stated over and over, because most people walk around barely conscious of the society around them. They prefer the easy option of believing crap and fantasy and there are plenty of folk around to take advantage of it.

I posted it because it points to cracks in the wall. A Feminist opens her eyes just for a moment, and sees the damage. No doubt she will close them again and go back to her dreams while we live in her nightmares.

**novaseeker** · 4th-January-2009

Quote from Percy

Quite a throw-away, non-phrase. If only it were so.

Most of what we say here is stating the obvious. And it has to be stated over and over, because most people walk around barely conscious of the society around them. They prefer the easy option of believing crap and fantasy and there are plenty of folk around to take advantage of it.

I posted it because it points to cracks in the wall. A Feminist opens her eyes just for a moment, and sees the damage. No doubt she will close them again and go back to her dreams while we live in her nightmares.

Yes, I agree. It's fun to throw stones in anger, and I get that, but to think ahead, frankly we need more feminists talking honestly about the facts, rather than denying them. This is not a negative thing, even if we don't like the messenger very much.

**haahoo** · 4th-January-2009

Quote from khankrumthebulgar

As I predicted after the shoot out in Texas between a Divorced Father and Texas Rangers. Another Man pushed too far came out shooting. Shot his Ex wife dead and 9 others. Church members described him as Friendly and Quiet. The Mexican Man in Tyler Texas, who came to Court with an AK-47, body armor and killed 5 people at the Courthouse. Before he drove his Pick Up Truck onto a Texas Freeway and shot it out with Texas Rangers. Dying in a hail of gunfire. Points out that the tipping point of Men is being reached in the US.

Men should go after Family Court Judges, and Politicians instead. As they are the true enablers of their enslavement by Government. Start shooting Judges who preside over Family Courts and see a change in rulings toward Men. Even Alec Baldwin has written a book about how aggrieved he is at the process. How expensive, unnecessary, oppressive, demeaning and how his Rights were trampled upon.

Marriage in FemAmerica is a former of voluntary Male Slavery to Females. Men should never submit to such nonsense. EVER.

Yip, there will be much more of this, there seems little else for men to do..