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    2 pre-teen boys tortured other boy to near death

    Very disturbing story:

    Torture kids will kill and should die behind bars, says victim's father - The Daily Record

    THE boy monsters who subjected two kids to a horrific 90-minute torture ordeal were caged without limit of time yesterday.
    And the mum of one of the victims spat hatred at the sadistic brothers, aged just 11 and 12, as they were led from court.
    She banged on the screen separating the dock from the public benches and shouted: "You evil little bastards! I hope someone does that to you!"

    The devil brothers looked back at her but were quickly hustled away. The woman, whose son was nine when they brutalised him, broke down in tears.
    The brothers were aged only 10 and 11 when they lured their victims to a lonely spot near Edlington, Yorkshire and began their orgy of violence.
    They scarred the boys, aged 11 and nine, with broken glass and barbed wire, throttled them with a metal noose and a length of clothesline, and stabbed them with sharpened sticks before thrusting a lit cigarette into one of the wounds.
    The victims were pelted with rock and forced to perform sex acts on each other. The younger boy was made to lick his own blood off one of the thugs' trainers.
    The older boy was bludgeoned with a broken sink and left to freeze to death. Hewas luckytosurvive.
    The brothers filmed part of the attack on a phone and only stopped hitting their victims when their arms got tired. The older one told police he carried out the attack because he was bored and "there were nowt to do".
    The torturers stared ahead blankly at Sheffield Crown Court as Mr Justice Keith gave them indeterminate sentences for their "appalling and terrible" crimes.
    The older boy sucked his thumb, while his brother glanced over at the relatives of his victims.
    The judge set minimum terms of five years but stressed to the victims' families that both brothers "may well be in detention for much longer".
    The families shook their heads, and said later that they were disgusted with the sentences.
    Mr Justice Keith told the brothers: "This was prolonged, sadistic violence, for no reason other than that you got a real kick out of hurting and humiliating them.
    "I'm sure you both pose a very high risk of serious harm to others."
    The victims, who are uncle and nephew, were in a playpark in Edlington, a deprived former pit village, when their ordeal began on April 4 last year.
    The brothers offered to show the boys a dead fox and they went because they were scared. Then the brothers told them they were going to be killed.
    They stole the boys' money and phone, made them eat nettles and dirt and held pieces of a broken beer bottle to their throats, cutting their flesh.
    The brothers marched the boys to a secluded spot. On the way, they cut their victims' bodies on barbed wire and threatened to murder their parents.
    Both boys were punched and kicked to the ground and attacked with bricks and stones. One of the rocks weighed 28lbs.
    The brothers carried on the beating with branches and sharpened sticks. The younger boy's arm was laid open to the bone and a cigarette was plunged into the wound.
    The older boy was made to lie on his stomach and a metal ring was put round his neck. One brother pulled hard at the makeshift noose, putting his foot on his victim's back for extra purchase.
    The brothers made the boys undress and stuffed socks in their mouths before making them perform sex acts.
    Then they covered the boys with a large plastic sheet and set it on fire. Both boys suffered burns.
    The brothers moved the boys again, this time to a wooded ravine with a stream running around the bottom.
    There, they throttled the younger boy with a clothesline, while asking him: "Are you dying yet?"

    The older boy, naked from the waist down and already blinded by blood and swelling, was then bludgeoned with the pieces of broken sink and left for dead.
    After the brothers finally left, the younger boy knelt beside the 11-year-old and asked if he was OK. He replied: "You go. I'll just die here."
    The younger boy's face was so completely covered in blood that the dog walker who found him thought someone had tipped paint over him.
    Police who raced to the ravine found the older boy semi-conscious.
    He was airlifted to intensive care with facial fractures and hypothermia. The court heard he would have died of cold if he had not been found so quickly.
    The brothers had been in Edlington for less than three weeks before the attack. They were moved there to a foster home - away from their brutal, drunken father and cannabis-addled mother.
    They rehearsed the attack on April 2 by abducting an 11-year-old and taking him to a lonely spot. A fisherman saved the boy by interrupting the assault.
    Both brothers pled guilty last year to causing grievous bodily harm with intent to the two boys on April 4. The younger boy's lawyer, Charles Garside QC, said his client was now "a likeable, well-behaved young person".
    But psychiatrist Dr Eileen Vizard told the court she felt "intimidated" by the boy. She warned he could grow up a psychopath, and added: "He will go on inflicting harm until someone stops him."
    The brothers will be held in separate secure units until they are 14, when they will be moved to young offenders institutions. The judge refused an application for their names to be made public. Both victims have recovered well physically but are still being counselled for post-traumatic stress.
    TOXIC HOME OF TORTURERS

    The brothers grew up in a "toxic" family home where their dad and five brothers beat them viciously and their mum fed them cannabis to keep them quiet, the court heard.
    The front garden of the squalid house in Doncaster, not far from Edlington, was littered with junk. A sign outside said "Beware of the kids".
    The boys' father was an obsessively jealous, vicious drunk who regularly attacked their mother and battered his kids if they tried to intervene.
    The mother, a heavy cannabis smoker, left the brothers to their own devices and laced their tea with the drug to put them to sleep.
    The brothers ran amok, terrorising and assaulting their neighbours. When at home, they drank, smoked, took drugs and watched horror films including Child's Play and Saw, with its torture scenes.
    Police said after yesterday's sentencing that the boys' parents could face criminal charges.
    The brothers set fire to their own bedroom wardrobes. The older boy had several convictions for hitting or headbutting his teachers and the younger had also been reprimanded for assault.
    The brothers were well known to social services - one youth worker called the younger of the two "a mini-Hannibal Lecter".

    But the brothers were placed with an elderly foster couple who couldn't control them instead of being put in care.
    A case review strongly criticised police and social services and said "many lessons" needed to be learned.

    Is this one of those 1 in a million cases? What kind of upbringing could those boys possibly have had that lead to this? Also how would views differ is they were female?
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    Re: 2 pre-teen boys tortured other boy to near death

    It's obvious that the jack off who wrote that article was trying to stir up a lynch mob!

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    They DESERVE a lynch mob for what they did, Zub...
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    They DESERVE a lynch mob for what they did, Zub...

    If they deserve a lynch mob then so does the cunt who raised those boys and any other cunt who has aborted a fetus!

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    I fail to see how an abortion affected these two boys. However, their parents certainly deserve a beating too.
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    If they deserve a lynch mob then so does the cunt who raised those boys and any other cunt who has aborted a fetus!
    Is it necessary to use that word repeatedly?

    BTW...the kids have a father, and from the sounds of it he was no better role model for the children than the mother was. Maybe you missed that part.

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    But psychiatrist Dr Eileen Vizard ..... warned he could grow up a psychopath
    These boys are psychopaths already.
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    I wish I had come across that scene, those two brothers would be the ones left for dead.


    @ Zuberi, you're trying too hard to fit this into your paradigm.
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    These boys are psychopaths already.
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    These boys are psychopaths already. ""

    I agree the morning usually shows the day !

    however the psychiatric standards nowadays don't diagnose the serious character disorder until over the age of 18

    but look at the upbringing of these boys and that explains a lot

    maybe they can be rehabilitated but I thing their charater traits are hardened and they will never really change

    there was a similar case in the UK some years ago and both the boys are now out and about

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    Those boys won't be in jail forever. They'll get out. I don't think this experience will mark the end of their criminal careers. It is chilling to think that someone will actually die before there is incarceration without possibility of parole....and I'd be willing to bet, at the very least for the more dominant of the two, that is how it will eventually play out.

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    These boys are psychopaths already. ""


    there was a similar case in the UK some years ago and both the boys are now out and about
    Venables and Thompson (Jamie Bulgers killers)were given new identities and will now be in their mid to late twenties, fact is we don't know if they will or already have re-offended ( for all we know one of them could be the father of these two animals) that's the trouble with protecting (or changing) their identity for fear of reprisals, it also protects the failing system from being held responsible for allowing known psychopaths to roam the streets .... convenient eh.

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    I clicked this by mistake but now having read it through, and the terrible, terrible ordeal that those poor children had to go through..the older I seem to get the more I'm inclined to think punishment should be about punishment and not rehibilitation...'an eye for an eye'.

    It seems that there is obviously a conflict, and it is understandable that children aged 11 and 12 can and do sometimes have difficulty knowing where a line is...and some do obviously cross over that line but this particular case is harrowing, and the evil things they did is beyond comprehension to a child who is perhaps just a bit wild..it's scary to think these boys may well now be back in regular population just like the Bulger killers, mixing with innocent people who are unsuspecting of just who they are dealing with...

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    I hear the arguments of the OP, but such stories add no value to what we're trying to achieve here.
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    "Boredom" was the motive for all that?

    Really??


 

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