Quote from chevalier

This just goes to show how society sees fathers as well.

Since they decided to raise their kids together clearly they planned to exclude the fathers.

Society seems to show these girls that fathers are not necessary to children other than making them and paying for them.

Other than that we are considered unnecessary.

But from the state of children nowadays it is abundantly obvious that fathers are in desperate need by their children.

That is so true, Chevalier. So tragically sad this message (fathers not optional or undesired) is growing more and more pervasive in the minds of our young ones. You're right....they clearly need a father's influence (for themselves) and for their future offspring.

I see the positive side to this that FFFF speaks of. While it is not good for the girls to exclude the fathers, if that is what they are doing, or to live on the public dole, at least they are producing offspring, being mothers, and not going to college to be indoctrinated into being militant feminists.

I think there is more hope for a society with young women who get pregnant and have kids out of wedlock while still behaving like women than for a society full of feminists who want to upset everyone's applecart, change every institution, maybe have a kid or two each that they neglect for their careers, and maybe marry men that they abuse every which way and then readily discard while making them their personal ATM until the kids are of age. With the teenage mothers, all they have to learn and teach their kids is that they should wait until they are in a stable relationship with a man that can provide for them to start a family so that they don't become a burden to society. Whereas the feminists have to undo and unlearn everything.

Quote from AKUUS

I see the positive side to this that FFFF speaks of. While it is not good for the girls to exclude the fathers, if that is what they are doing, or to live on the public dole, at least they are producing offspring, being mothers, and not going to college to be indoctrinated into being militant feminists.

I think there is more hope for a society with young women who get pregnant and have kids out of wedlock while still behaving like women than for a society full of feminists who want to upset everyone's applecart, change every institution, maybe have a kid or two each that they neglect for their careers, and maybe marry men that they abuse every which way and then readily discard while making them their personal ATM until the kids are of age. With the teenage mothers, all they have to learn and teach their kids is that they should wait until they are in a stable relationship with a man that can provide for them to start a family so that they don't become a burden to society. Whereas the feminists have to undo and unlearn everything.

Yip. Indeed. I would rather my daughters sprogged young than they end up 30 year old fat slappers with no kids and a bad attitude!!