The Mehnz Love Womens Spaces: Beware The MRA Invasion

**frostyboy** · #1 17th-November-2008

From "Womanist Musing": The Mehnz Love Womens Spaces: Beware The MRA Invasion

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I ran across another link from Glenn king of the MRA misogynists. (once again, google if interested I don't link to men like Sacks) It seems the trolls are busy celebrating because the Third District Court of Appeal in Sacramento ruled in Woods. v. Shewry that California’s exclusion of men from domestic violence services violates men’s constitutional equal protection rights.

Yes the mehnz are gloating and circle jerking their way to ecstasy. I can feel the bile rising and creeping even as I write this. For a true victim of DV, obviously I feel concern and sympathy, but lets be clear, we do not live in a society where men are the ones that are routinely the victims of abuse. Just because it happens to men, in no way means that they makeup the majority of the victims, no matter what MRA lies get spun. There aren't enough illicit drugs on the planet to turn their fantasies into a believable reality.

DV shelters are an outcome of radical feminist organizing. They are a response to the centuries of violence that women have been subject to at the hands of men that claim to love them. For many, they are a place of sanctuary and safety and to have them triggered by the presence of yet another man is unconscionable.

On one hand the MRA are quick to speak about women leaving shelters because of ill treatment, it seems however the treatment is not had enough for them to accept their exclusion.

This is not about providing a safe space for men, this is about ending a safe space for women. The MRA are not interested in creating domestic violence shelters, that cater specifically to men. They are well aware that such an effort would be extremely expensive and yield little results, as men do not make up the majority of DV victims.

Men are over represented in the homeless population. They are desperately in need of clothing and shelter. Often products donated are clothing for women and children, and men routinely get left out of the loop. This is a space where the MRA could conceivably work for change, and make a huge difference in the lives of men living on the margins; however building shelters, job training, counselling and outreach for homeless men are not high on their agenda, because it does not take anything away from women.

They claim that feminists are about gender wars and setting one sex against another, and yet they routinely work against their own interest to maintain a false hierarchy that in the end hurts their own members. The MRA are racist/classist/sexist/homophobic trolls that do nothing but feed the psychopathic hatred that some men have of women.

A true mens movement would be interested in the needs of all men, not just the ones that exist with race and class privilege. The idea that an MRA movement is even needed is one of the most ridiculous suppositions I have ever come across. Men control ever social institution, and every path to real power; and yet we are to believe that they are disenfranchised as a group. The MRA should really get into the business of swamp salesmen because they certainly know how to pitch bullshit; it might save them all from drowning on their unacknowledged privilege.

christianj · #2 17th-November-2008

The problem those poor dears face is that we can no longer be ignored. They have tried that so now we approach the next stage..

Attack..

Remember our guru Mahatma Ghandi..

First they ignore you, then they attack you..or something along those lines, although this has been ongoing for some time as their constant sexist denials suggests..

So we educate them or at least try and we wait for the next stage..

**haahoo** · #3 18th-November-2008

dumb feminists preaching their tired old claptrap and lies forever..

**haahoo** · #4 18th-November-2008

One thing I have found to be wasted effort is educating those who prefer to live in ignorance..

Feminists are top of the list..

John Dias · #5 18th-November-2008

I'm tearing it up over there. Check out the comments.

Marx · #6 18th-November-2008

What a bunch of sexists.

They even refer to Michael Flood. (Hover mouse for a brief rundown on this hater)

In addition, the moderator/admin there is predictably relying on censorship, removing my posts.

Here's what I posted.

(this one seems to remain for the moment)

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Michael Flood is one of the most hateful bigots this planet has encountered.
He also claims that feminist fathers are not abusers while none-feminist fathers are abusers of children & women.

This man is nothing short of a sexist.

As for men needing to step up and start their own homes, we have tried - and we have been shut down by feminist opposers.

Despite nearly forty years and well in excess of 100 research documents showing that D/V occurs roughly in equal numbers, feminists cannot detach themselves from the 'women are victims' mentality.

To get a feminist to aknowledge that men have needs too is like drawing blood from a stone.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qodygTkTUYM

Here's an interview with how sexist & hatefilled the feminist controlled "women's shelters" are:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xLU-d9GvFRs
(there are others, view them in order I,II,III,IV,V)

Pretending feminism is not sexist, is nothing short of a lie.

You should be ashamed.

To replace two posts that were deleted, I added this one:

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Oh dear,

Here we see yet further proof of feminism's need to control. Once again, relying on censorship in order to sway the discussion.

As I said in a deleted post - most normal people (66%) will not affiliate themselves with the sexist movement known as feminism.

Micheal Flood is also a sexist of the extreme. NONE of his work is peer-reviewed, it is purely agenda-driven hate campaigns against normal men.

Marx · #7 18th-November-2008

Queen Censorpanties also deleted that last comment (no surprise)... I'll just paste them here as well as there, so at least one of us has the balls to show it.

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Why do feminist have to rely on censoring?

Cry babies...

Marx · #8 18th-November-2008

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Originally Posted by me

Oh yeah, I forgot to repeat the one post I made...

Men in government try to work to benefit society as a whole - that's men, women & children as one group.

Yet we have seen feminists (allegedly for equality) in government.

Who do they work for the benefit of?

Children 1st, women & then men?

Nope.

Women & Children?

Nope.

Just women?

Yep.

Each time we see feminists get in positions of power they ABUSE it to women's advantages and mens detriment.

Feminism has two purposes:

1) Blame women
2) Absolve women of blame

BTW admin, you keep deleting my posts (because that's how feminist retain control - through censorship), but it's ok, I'm keeping copies of them else where for the world to see how you have to rely on censoring.

If you were as 'strong' as you say, you'd be able to contend with an MRA disagreeing with you... but you can't, becuase you are apparently not as strong as you pretend to be.
And how DARE someone point out the hate from feminists when they have to pretend that feminism is about 'equality'... yeah, so where is this equality?

Renee said:

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Originally Posted by femhag

@Marx your post was filled with blatant falsehood that were rife with sexism, and you wonder why you were deleted. I don't even know why I am bothering to respond to you period, as your are not entitled to any explanations on what I chose to allow on my blog.

You don't want to get deleted don't be a sexist jerk, tell the truth in your posts and don't victim blame. Rules are very simple really and are such common sense that I shouldn't even have to tell you. Word to the wise, referring to women who have power over you as cry babies when they choose to exercise said power is also sexist. On a more final note if you don't like the conditions I set the simple solution is to stop reading and commenting, MRA are not welcome here anyway.

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Originally Posted by me

1) should read "Blame men" - sorry for typo.

There is nothing sexist about pointing out that feminists in positions of power within the government work to men's detriment and women's advantages over men.

That's not sexists, that's fact. I'm sorry that facts upset you.

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Originally Posted by whatshername

You're not presenting facts, you're presenting opinions. Facts have documentation behind them. The vast majority of your ilk here have provided no documentation at all, you personally sure as shit haven't.

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Originally Posted by me

Harriet Harman: Alleged "equality minister" and "minister for women" (no conflict of interests???) as well as a very well known feminist:

Pushing for laws to close women's prisons, convert them to men's prisons. She wants women convicts to go to 'day therapy' and be at home with their family of an evening. She is pushing for more male convicts to be imprisoned for lengthier terms.

This hateful woman has also published her opinion that fathers are entirely unecessary in a family environment.

She is also pushing for a law that prohibits 'white men' (her words) from claiming discrimination when turned down for a job.

This comes a year after her feminist friend, Patricia Hewett (formerly health minister) was found guilty of discriminating against ... a white man.

Sure looks like an abuse of her power to me.

In response to the above (Harriet Harman) post, renee femhag replied:

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Originally Posted by femhag

@Marx in the eyes of an over privileged spoiled white male. Cry me a fucking river.

OK, let it be noted - the sexist admin of the blog acknowledges and SUPPORTS feminists ABUSING power.

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Originally Posted by renee femhag

@whatsername don't you love the whine and moan because I won't allow him to foul my blog with his filthy lies. The little MRA troll is upset because he cannot behave like a bully on a feminist blog? They're all about equality and they prove it by invading womens spaces and immediately trying to assert control.

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Originally Posted by me

And if you want to complain about "presenting facts, not opinion" then look at this blog entry itself - it is a hatefilled 'opinion', with zero credibility or 'facts' to back it up. None, what-so-ever!

And as for the lie that trying to engage in 'debate' is somehow 'bullying' - that confirms my 'opinion' that the admin here is nothing short of a complete cry-baby who cannot tolerate objective discussions and must resort to censorship. But it's ok, it's all public elsewhere.

MRA's do not have to resort to bullying tactics and control issues... we take on feminists and discuss logically, rather than getting all bitter and control-freak about it.

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Originally Posted by whatshername

What's sad Renee is that so many of these men are so caught up in their own self righteousness that they don't see or care how they're behavior comes off to anyone else.

And Marx, Renee has proved herself time and time again as thoughtful and willing to engage in complex topics. She doesn't need to prove anything to me. YOU however are new here, have no background to me, and thus, I have absolutely no reason to give your opinions the authority I give Renee's. That's even putting aside the fact that I work in womens studies and thus have a pre-existing basic understanding of many of the facts behind the topics which she discusses.

Also, your first impression could use some work.

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Originally Posted by me

"@Marx in the eyes of an over privileged spoiled white male. Cry me a fucking river. "
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Thank you for acknowledging that you condone, support & endorse feminists abusing their power in government positions.

I am very glad to have had this little chat with you, as many feminists will pretend to be against such discrimination (while refusing to do anything about it, but would jump on the nearest man who did similar). At least you have some limited degree of integrity to your name.

I think I upset cry-baby admin at this point, it must be so infuriating having a point proven so easily...

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Originally Posted by femhag

MRA's do not have to resort to bullying tactics and control issues..

Now if that isn't just a crock of shit. Your actions disprove your words. You have already been told that MRA are not welcome here and your response is to keep posting, um that would be bullying.

I am going to assume that something got lost in translation and put it even more plainly. I know the MRA have trouble with basic facts... get the fuck off my blog, you are neither wanted or welcome, you lying misogynist asshat. Oh when you return to anti misandry.com you can deliver the message that stealing someones work, even a womans without permission is still theft. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

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Originally Posted by me

"What's sad Renee is that so many of these men are so caught up in their own self righteousness that they don't see or care how they're behavior comes off to anyone else."
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That works both ways. The fact that you are indoctrinated with victimology101, aka womyn's studies, only confirms that you are educated in seeing sexism where none exists, seeing men as abusers and women as victims. You see with your very own eyes the admin of this blog condoning & supporting sexism, as well as making assumptions about my ethnic group. And you feel, what, about this?
Is sexism fine with you too, as long as it's against men only, specifically white-men?
So, earlier - when you claimed that I was absurd, because I consider feminism to be as sexist as the men it accuses of sexism... here's proof - before your own eyes, by the very admin of this blog...

But as you're a feminist, no doubt you can find a way to 'justify' this... As I said, feminism has two goals:
1)Blame men (admin makes false allegation of bullying against me)
2)Absolve women of blame (admin of this blog justifies feminist abuses in government, and you will no doubt justify her sexism).

Case closed!!!!

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Originally Posted by whatshername

"Oh stop being hysterical.

You don't know anything about me or my education. Piss off already. "

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Originally Posted by me

BTW, cry-baby admin...

Go buy a dictionary.

misogyny is hatred of 'women'

I love women and have many in my life.

Anti-feminism, however, is the highlighting or proving of feminists lies & misandry.

I am a PROUD anti-feminist. YOU have personally proven my VERY reason.

You have relied on bullying, censoring, lying, name-calling, hatefilled opinions without a single fact to assert said opinion and condoned/support blatant racism & sexism in post #57.

THANK YOU!!!!!

Case closed!

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Originally Posted by me

"Oh stop being hysterical.

You don't know anything about me or my education. Piss off already. "
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Oh Noes - he's hit a raw nerve... how can I handle this??? OMGZ he has a point, it has been proven that feminism IS sexist!!! ZOMG!!!!

Ahhh - I know, I'll just rant!!! Yeeeehaaaa!!! Ranting makes me fweeeeeel gwood!!!!

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Originally Posted by me

I found a very useful image which is what I will think of every time I hear of this pathetic, sexist & hatefilled excuse for a blog:

http://www.health-in-action.org/libr...ry%20baby2.jpg

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Originally Posted by femhag

@whatsername thanks for your support. I will admit it gets tiresome putting up with their daily hissy fits. What bothers me the most is the way their presence fouls my beautiful blog. Having a conversation is one thing but spreading lies and creating an unsafe space is another.

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Originally Posted by me

"Having a conversation is one thing but spreading lies and creating an unsafe space is another. "
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Do you have the decency to prove your claim, that lies were spread, or is this just hearsay and opinion?

If you can't prove it - and as you cowardishly relied on control-mechanisms (censorship), it seems to me there is zero proof any lies occured.

The only way of proving your case, is to highlight the alleged lie and prove it to be a lie.

I'm betting you will instead choose to censor this question though.... diddums.

http://www.redhotlindyhop.com/Images...6/Cry-Baby.gif

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