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    A hundred examples of bias against men.


    From the blog: Men's Rights: Social Awareness

    An Overall Review (volume 8.15c) Extended version.

    PREFACE:
    It's important to explain why I've compiled this list. I'm hot trying to Knit-Pick every little thing which comes to mind. Nor, am I attempting to condemn each trivial injustice.

    The purpose of this list is to challenge conventional wisdom which claims otherwise. Basically, Femme Activists and Journalists claim that every stereotype imaginable is against women. And this serves to justify their attacks against men.

    Basically, we're living in an age where people are fierce debaters. And this explains why every group tries to "stockpile" an arsenal of issues. So, whoever can produce the most validity is then declared the winner. (I'm sorry but, this happens to be the manner which most people think, nowadays). Such is why I decided to make this Blog, which lists many examples of social bias against men. It's necessary to combat similar activity on her part. Now, quite frankly, most issues herein don't require urgency to rectify. However, they shoot down the claims made by Femme Groups.

    Why is it so important to challenge their viewpoint? Her primary goal is victimize the alleged oppressor. Thus, all claims by activists, actually allows them to commit routine mistreatment. Basically, This dogma cleverly promotes injustice. And eventually, she intends to wage a path of cataclysmic destruction against him.
    And Public acceptance is possible simply because she creates enough issues to justify her actions.
    This is the main reason why I've compiled the following list…...

    THE BLOG-----

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    *A Hundred Examples Of Bias Against Men:
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    Media Bias is a constant presence in our lives. Every facet of Journalism targets against men.


    Society believes that every child belongs with its mother. So, regardless of the legal aspect, her role is considered more important. While his remains secondary. This same rule applies even when a man loses his spouse. People believe that a child needs a female guardian, rather than an actual father.

    In legal terms: Men are the victims of a Family-Court system which automatically gives full parental custody to the woman. This sometimes involves cases where relatives seek guardianship, and challenge the biological father.

    5) In terms of pregnancy: a man has no right whatsoever to decide the fate of his unborn child.


    Dogma says that women are more 'clever' than men.

    Most people accept the idea of 'woman's intuition'.

    Men are severely insulted on a routine basis. But if women ever faced even the slightest criticism, there would be public outrage.

    Even though people are kind toward women, they still act as though she's negatively stereotyped. These conflicting ideas make little sense. However, it indicates your extreme devotion for her.

    10) It is socially unacceptable for a man to become actively involved for his ideals and causes. Basically, this would be considered unusual behavior.

    Most men have very little interest in defending their rights. Thus, he never challenges any wrong doing.

    It's so claimed that women are more complex than men. And they have deeper emotions. Now, please read the next remark. This will call everything above to question.

    Female journalists actually taunt men because her life-span is said-to-be longer than that of a man. And quite frankly, measures should be taken to minimalize this gap.

    People think it's okay to make fun of the male anatomy. Most dirty jokes are demeaning to men.

    15)MEGA) If any man dares to express his concerns, people will immediately try to stop him. In other words: he's not allowed to speak-out. Most women become angered whenever he attempts to raise an issue. (I could list countless examples).

    Men are constantly overshadowed by Artistic Imagery, Logos, Slogans, & Bold-Print which is designed to demoralize his esteem.

    There are no Activists representing men. Parents must recognize a need to create this type of hero for boys. …If, for no other reason, Men's organizations could serve as "inspiration" for the male youth.

    Everyone tends to see things from the woman's perspective. Basically, she's always considered to be "right".

    It's impolite for a man to argue with a woman. Thus, he's always expected to agree with her ideas.

    20)Women are always taken seriously. When she speaks-out, people always listen.

    Women are taught to enjoy their employment. She's encouraged to become an over-achiever. But, in any case, it makes everyday life easier for her.

    Women are said to be uniquely gifted. This includes possessing extra-sensory perception. …As well as other paranormal abilities. Ironically, spiritual non-believers never ridicule women for this.

    Whenever a woman states her opinions, people always agree with her. While in contrast, they'll tend to disagree with everything said by a man.

    Society is more supportive and helpful toward women.

    25) They are more concerned with her daily troubles everyday situation.

    Dogma which says that 'girls grow up much faster than boys". Not only is this a sexist remark, but ironically, it's also immature and childish on her part.

    For decades, Activists have declared that males are intellectually inferior. This results from studies performed by 'left winged' extremists. It contradicts their own supposed ideals which denounce all forms of prejudice. Plus, it also conflicts their claims which assert that women are victims of unfair-stereotyping. Ironically, the studies in question were centered upon academic fields where women tend to excel. There was no comparison relating to mechanical abilities, and what-have-you. Plus amazingly, men performed about-equally in these grammatical contests. So, the issue self-defeats before it even begins. Ironically, men would show no interest to perform similar studies. …Even if they resulted in his favor.
    Obviously, whatever the issue, there's no way he can possibly win. It doesn't matter which direction you choose.

    Regardless of the studies performed, they always reach results which are favorable to the woman. Whether claiming that she's mistreated by society, or that women possess special abilities. In any case, all socio & scientific research works distinctly to her advantage.

    Some 85% of the worlds homeless are males. This is unfair. But, most organizations only give assistance to poor women. No one is concerned for his well-being.

    30) Advertisements and television commercials appeal toward a female audience. Needless to say, many Ads become downright offensive and crude toward men. This is certainly not surprising.

    People always takes sides with the woman. Thus, anytime there's a disagreement between a male and female, she's given the final say.

    People unconditionally love their mothers. This is why abandoned children search desperately for the very same woman who rejected them. Ironically, children from broken families bear resentment against the father.

    Whenever a relationship fails, people believe the husband was totally at-fault.

    Women sometimes walk into Men's bathrooms, etc.. And society thinks there's nothing wrong with it. However, I certainly believe otherwise. There should be a full-scale war to erase this injustice.

    35) Dogma says that men are obsessed with their sexual desires. But, in any case, it's really none of anyone's business, anyhow.

    Years ago, the media often said: The Male brain is primitive.

    Journalists also contradict their own notions by claiming that women became human 40,000 years before men. Or sometimes, they say, women are 700,000 years older. Just like every other statistic, it depends upon the source. Ironically, you never identify her as being primitive. Plus, artifacts, tools and language suggest that such Feminized theories are wrong.

    A man is required to become married, in order to have any legal voice for his child. The courts never recognize his position if he's a common-law partner. I believe: every man should have equal parental custody, regardless of his relationship to the mother. For example: let's suppose He produces a child through a casual relationship or with a total stranger. Genetic testing should identify him as the father. Thus, he should be given Equal Rights to that child. This would prevent any woman from concealing his identity.

    Here are a few unusual facts regarding the issue of "Financial Support: When any mother places her child in an "Orphanage" or "Home", she is not required to pay weekly fees, of any kind. Plus, when a child is adopted, the Father is required to give support to the adoptive parents. But, there are no such demands made from the biological mother. There are also cases where a troubled woman surrenders custody to the child's father. Although, she was initially receiving support, the Father does NOT require her to give payments.

    40) The divorce courts give all property rights, appliances, furniture, automobiles, and what-have-you to the woman. One primary reason for this is because she receives parental custody. And the courts decide that it's to the child's best interest to grow-up into a healthy environment.


    MEGA MEGA) Throughout the media, there's ALWAYS somebody telling men what to do, and how to think. Journalists and writers are always putting-men-down. There's no reason to give several million examples, in order to prove this point. And they will continue targeting against him.

    A woman can pretty much take any degree of Legal action against men. For example: during a domestic dispute, she could literally beat-her-husband, and to then, demand his arrest. Our police officers comply because they're fearful a possible media-frenzy. (Disclaimer: very few women exercise this power, but, she's still given the option.)

    There are many laws which specifically privilege women. Government financing is given toward Women's Medical Centers, Business Grants, Shelters, funding for Women's research, as well as, Women's Studies. WIC programs (Women, infants, and children) were initially declared discriminatory. But, the law was eventually passed, as well. Many politicians will re-introduce proposals, over and over again, until they succeed.

    New laws are constantly being made which focus upon her interests.

    45) It's become difficult for male students to attend classes, which are now controlled by Lobbyists. Our high-school Text-books have come to resemble a mere Woman's Magazine. This literature offers encouragement and support for Girls. The theme happens to be typical of everything else. Women's Groups have certainly infiltrated our Universities, as well.

    Society always gives special interest toward girls, even in the most unlikely circumstances. Everything has been tarnished by the presence-of-Extremism. For example: Film review, consumer products, Vacation & Travel, The Olympic events, Wimbledon Tennis Tournament, Nature & Wildlife Documentaries, etc. Today's Journalists tend to be obsessive in their desires to focus upon women. And this dogma enters the most unusual places. ****Therefore, Men are never safe from this onslaught. He could be watching a television program regarding any possible subject, and suddenly be faced against this type of special interest.

    There are many reasons why Men don't have the right to speak out. One such example is because people consider him to be 'a complainer', or 'a cry baby'. Another reason is when everyone thinks he's 'silly' or 'childish'. (Example: I once stated that 'men are the victims of constant insults by the media'. This remark caused people to chuckle and mock the whole idea. Maybe, it sounds like a joke, but my claims happen to be true.) Meanwhile, a woman is never mocked, no matter how ridiculous her ideas may seem. This brief paragraph can be applied to our daily conversations.

    Society believes that 'Women are God's-Gift-to-men'. And he's considered to be a total 'loser', whenever he's not in a relationship. In contrast, Girls are taught to be proud, if she's able to refrain from relationships.

    50) Married women often go dining on Friday evenings. Yet, the husbands are not invited.


    Women also have health-spas, retreats & getaways, organizations, and what-have-you.

    Girls are encouraged to establish friendships amongst one another. No such campaigns exist for boys.

    It's common to see areas which are designed for Women only. This is present on cruise-ships, buses, trains, office buildings, CLASSROOMS, seminars, and anything else you can possibly name.

    Society never criticizes her ethical decisions. So, if Militant Femmes teach adolescent girls to formulate homosexual groups, this idiocy goes left unnoticed and unchallenged by the public. Worse yet, this is also being Forced upon her. But, these are just few of countless examples. I could list several thousand quotations which fit similar description, or something entirely different. But either way, measures are never taken to prevent such wrongdoing.

    55) There are wide scale media campaigns which claim that, men are incapable of thinking for themselves. And he must be trained to do so.

    There are literally Millions of Journalists worldwide, who are spreading their personal ideas. This explains why the "Femme" propaganda is popular in all corners of the globe. I believe that such unprofessional ethics should be grounds for immediate dismissal. On similar terms, anyone who posts femme literature during employment should also be terminated as well. The problem is: my idea is too radical for people to accept. If my goals were enforced properly, an entire 1/4 of the work-force might be eliminated overnight. The problem has become so ramped because it's being encouraged by the media at large.

    Boys are raised into an unhealthy environment. There needn't be any insults or issues to mention. Virtually all forms of inequality against men are Intangible. Therefore, it's nearly impossible to discuss these matters. Here's just one idea: Males are overshadowed by "Visual Imagery & Artwork". As well as "Anthems", "Themes", "Girl Power", "special interest" and anything else you can name.

    Men are taught to respect women, even though he already treats her with kindness and gentility. But it raises a serious issue. People merely dictate these themes for the mere sake of 'giving orders'. It seems, everyday, there's a reasonable idea being forced upon us. In contrast, girls are never being suppressed with a nagging theme. Now, let's return to the 1st sentence of this paragraph. (The issue of 'respect') This is one such theme which girls are NOT required to comply with. In other words: people never teach her to respect boys, or that she should become a better listener.

    There are powerful words which can always be used at her disposal. When Males debate with females, she's given the opportunity to call him "sexist", or what-have-you. Please don't underestimate the importance of these advantages. This dogma proves to be a valuable weapon for arguments sake.

    60) MEGA) Women commonly 'gang up' against a singular male. It usually pertains to a disagreement between partners. But, this same rule applies when Mothers teach their children to dislike the ex-husband. Not to mention: she uses relatives/family/friends against him, as well.

    People consider the woman to be more 'correct' in their thinking. This allows everyone to become 'supportive and helpful' [Specifically] toward her. In other words: Sentence 1 allows for sentence 2. In fact, EVERYTHING figures her way. This is not mere favoritism. Sadly, beyond all else, it's always a 'justified' offense. Ultimately, this dogma effectively silences men.

    On various websites, such as Friendster: I was able to locate several dozen Women's Groups, yet not One single Men's group. This holds true throughout the internet. Women's Forums often consist of several thousand members. …Whereas, Men's forums only have a few members.

    During my youth, there were countless Organizations which represented women. Until finally, a few Men's Groups also came into existence. The message here is clear: there is little hope which inspires him.

    When the World Wide Web came to existence, nearly every homepage had a category dedicated to women. For example: the very first time I dialed to the internet, there was a Woman's site waiting for me. And every service-provider followed this format.

    65) The number of Women's websites became immediately alarming. In the 1990's, there were tens of thousands of websites dedicated just for women. Yet, only a ½ dozen were devoted toward men. And, even they were questionable.

    In the 1980's, the Woman's television Network was introduced. In 2007, an attempt was made to create an entire chain of Radio Stations, just for Women. Luckily, this attempt failed. However, there are many NEWS broadcasts which are now exclusive to women. The content does NOT pertain to anything relating to her. But, instead, these News Programs give general information relating to daily topics, such as Natural Disasters, The Weather Report, or anything else which is important. So, in other words, he's being completely shut-out from these valuable current events. On a similar note: men are alienated from the mainstream news media, as well. Basically, our most trusted News Anchors also give periodic attention to women. ++++Thus, a male viewer must always be weary. ++++ He never truly knows when the Activists will strike next. SO, as a result, many men choose to discard the News-industry. But, he's ALSO being denied access to the entire spectrum of information. (examples: News about possible upcoming storms or bad weather, or, Stories regarding important Health Matters, Financial advice, etc. etc.)

    I'm sorry to say this, but: the underlying goal of Femme Groups is to Rape men as much as they possibly can. They're always tormenting guys in-any-way they possibly can. So, there's no specific reason here. It's a generalized assault which targets against men. Yet, with all considered, our most trusted Journalists also willingly comply.

    We all live in a technographic world of surrealism. And the media's goal is to distort our basic understanding of life. MOST people place more trust in this medium than anything else. So, if your personal observations reach one distinct conclusion, while the media teaches you otherwise, people will tend to accept their opinions over your own. IN OTHER WORDS: you'll actually believe their version of things, instead of trusting your own eyes. In other words: the media does not allow you to derive your own conclusions. But instead, they provide them for you.

    A woman can contradict herself countless times. Most observers fail to notice. But, in any case, she would be allowed under any circumstance.

    70) People regard her opinions as a basic standard which must always be followed in full agreement. In other words: I'm always expected to agree with her. Plus, she's always considered to be right, anyway.

    People are generally more sympathetic toward her. They care more about her everyday troubles. ….Which all leads toward "emotional attachment".

    Female relatives are considered more vital to the family unit. It's not specific to maternal needs, or parenthood. This idea also pertains to sisters, aunts, and what-have-you. They're considered to be the force which drives our society. This belief is just plain Wrong and Unfair. She should not be considered 'the backbone' of humanity.

    Men generally treat women with tremendous respect. It might even be considered "Special treatment". On the other hand, women show no extra-kindness toward the opposite sex. It's actually common for a woman to treat her boyfriend with LESS respect than anyone else. For example: she seems to be a really nice person to her friends. While, in contrast, the boyfriend is the only person she ever mistreats.

    (In terms of parental stereotyping): …It's usually claimed, the male is solely interested in seeking custody to "avoid payments". This claim has no validity. (plus, the remark inadvertently proves that it's more profitable to receive weekly support, than to share custody.) Aside from financial matters, our courts simply believe 'maternal-custody' is to the Child's best-interest. This attitude should not be acceptable by our current social standards. People nowadays claim that it's wrong-to-judge. But, they do just that. It's not your position to decide justifiable legal imbalance.

    My word vs. hers




    A woman can act severely harsh toward her spouse. And nobody ever thinks it's wrong. (Meanwhile, we would not tolerate men who commit any degree of abuse. Such individuals are even loathed by Men's groups. We do not support of condone this behavior. However, one fact must be understood: ---an abusive husband tends to have a nasty disposition, anyway. Thus, he's not actually targeting his cruelty toward her. This type of man tends to be unfriendly toward everyone, not just his spouse.

    75) Women often try proving that they don't need men. And she could 'get by' without him. (In fact, she's always trying to make a point, for some reason or another). …Whereas, men never feel the need to push these ideas. He is taught to accept his feelings and desires for women. Society teaches women to fight those impulses and to deny their need for companionship. In simple terms: she tries to belittle him.

    Women always discuss personal matters with their friends. This gives an enormous advantage to her. Plus, her boyfriend is placed into vulnerable position. It's the "2 vs. 1" method. (This doesn't necessarily mean she's 'ganging up' against him. That's an entirely separate issue, altogether). Ironically, people regard her as "complex", just because she discusses things with everyone.

    Testicular abuse is another issue. Hollywood movies depict this type of sexual pain. And the public sees great humor. Ironically, a person would feel more pain if they were stricken in the neck or teeth. But, the groin happens to be a sexual organ. Thus explaining why Hollywood has chosen this specific body part to be the subject of ridicule.

    In the dating world, women pretend to be disinterested in the opposite sex. Plus, they deny even thinking-about-him. Or, holding him dearly in her fantasies. (footnote: this is NOT a silly issue).
    Here's a basic fact: ---Each time women are given a minimal advantage, she would be VERY unhappy if the situation was reversed. Plus, she also becomes angry when even the slightest attention is directed toward Men's issues.

    For some unknown reason, women aren't happy unless they can claim that everything's against them. And naturally, we blindly accept whatever she decides upon.

    80) Women try to fight their desires for men. She often brags to others And proudly claims, She's not the least bit physically attracted to men. And she wants the whole-entire-world to know about it.

    In the dating world: men are 2nd class citizens in a major way. You can visit any dating agency, such as Match.com, or True.com, and this fact becomes evident. Simply read through thousands of Ladies profiles, and most-of-them are rude, nasty, and unfriendly. I speculate that a near majority of profiles fit this negative description. While in contrast, you could also read through several thousand Men's profiles. And his presentations are consistently Nice and friendly. It's truly unbelievable to see this type of imbalance. Plus, I haven't even included the typical demands which are made by women.

    Even the kindest woman sets unrealistic standards when seeking her soul mate. He must meet a minimal height requirement, and have an athletic build, high earnings, etc. etc. Ironically, a woman expects him to be understanding of her problems. Thus, if she's very heavy, or, she's living in a small apartment, or, there's been a severe medical issue, or whatever the case. The man is expected to accept her flaws.
    Each and every day, Women's Groups give themselves more reasons to do whatever it is, which they're doing. So, their continued dictations will persist.

    Regardless of the situation, women have always got The Media, Activists, Friends, & Society, showing their support. And there's an element of inspiration, encouragement, and pure momentum to back her every feeling. In other words, she has the total advantage over everything !!!

    I could employ an army of writers (on a full-time basis) to address the problem. Afterall, there are literally several hundred thousand oppressive Feminazi's who spend their entire lives abusing men, with endless pages of literature. You should read some of the horrible things they've said TODAY. Not to mention, yesterday, and last week, as well as the year before. Etc. etc. etc. Different publications are launched simultaneously, as well as other venues. Please trust my WORD. These women's groups are massively abusive. They're designed to launch a wave of destruction against men. (For your information, those hundreds of Talk-Shows clearly demonstrate the ruthless nature of these Women's Groups. The entire Magazine spectrum proves even more obsessive on their part.

    Thus, I cannot possibly list the billions of examples which I've personally encountered during the course of my lifetime.

    85) a lady can be narrow minded, or, "set-in-her-ways". She can be a "Know-it-all", without being loathed by others. For example: Mother hires a carpenter, and then begins telling him how to do his job. I am NOT condemning this.. Rather instead, I'm merely stating a social reality.

    A woman can revere herself as physically attractive. During the course of my lifetime, I've heard several women who proclaim themselves to be "Extremely Beautiful". So one day, I then decided to make the same exact claim regarding my physical appearance. Immediately: everyone thought I was totally weird for making such a conceited remark.

    When a woman receives subsidies, such as government grants, or Social Services, she's not required to undergo any type of drug-testing or background checks. Meanwhile, the corporations which offer these gifts for women, do force their own employees to undergo mandatory testing for substance abuse.

    It's quite common for average, straight women to write perverted letters onto one another, on MYSPACE. And their comments are available for everyone to read. "HEY GIRL, I could use alittle lovin' tonight", "My body needs it! And, maybe, you could help me, girlie". "And I'll return the favor". …Now, perhaps, this is all kidding & joking. And they have no real intentions of following through with these kinky remarks. However, they would never tolerate this garbage from men.

    There was yet another study performed with determined that "Male Apes" learn slowly. This is typical sexist dogma. And the study was conducted by a staunch Feminazi who acted like a 12-year old child. Ironically, her study only proved that male apes are less subordinate than females. Indeed, the females are always more cooperative, and they're more likely to follow orders from the instructor. Now, here's some further insight: Highly intelligent creatures tend to become easily bored during these studies.

    90) similar studies have been made which conclude that men learn slowly. Yea right… Everything works to her advantage. But here's what enabled them to make such outlandish claims: Whenever men display a philosophical attitude, this is sometimes mistaken for being an all-out learning disability. He occasionally spends a great deal of time pondering simple questions. This happens to be a hallmark for philosophical thinking. On similar terms: people often mistaken men for being unintelligent, simply because he's more likely to display a rebellious personality. The same rule applies for those who think independently from others. They too, are often judged as developmentally-inferior. Basically, those persons with a non-conformist viewpoint are often considered slow-learners.

    91) Plus, it ultimately leads to wonder why Leftists perform these shallow & prejudice studies in the first place. They're the same people who condemn hatred, while promoting peace & love. Also, there are never scientific studies which compare the black & white races. Afterall, this would be pure bigotry, right ????

    92) Thru 99) There are several moderate forms of social inequality. For example: Men are forced to sign for the Draft. Men in the military are forced to entirely shave their hair, whereas women are not. This can be a traumatic experience for the male. Women in society enjoy a wide variety of clothing and hair styles. Also, in the dating arena, Women are also very selective when choosing a partner.
    During my youth, there were many sexually degrading jokes which specifically targeted against boys. He was often called "hairy palms", and what-have-you. These 'wanking' jokes have become somewhat obsolete nowadays, but it was quite humiliating at that time.

    100 Vs. 1) yea, people tend to gang up against the man. And most guys also taking sides against other men. (The rumor is:Women are Not the main culprits of this behavior. He's actually more likely to mistreat other men.) (surveys also suggest there are more male left-winged extremists, journalists, abortionists, and sympathizers for Neo-socialism.) In other words: There are alot of men who fully support the overall mediacratic infelstructure. Thus providing further evidence to substantiate my claims. Thousands of male journalists, as well as female, participate in these female-centric campaigns.


    101) THE GRAND FINALE. ---Women are often revered as Goddesses. Her status in society is clearly fantastic. It's perfectly okay to express these positive ideas toward her. But, nonetheless, her position is favorable. She is clearly looked upon with the highest regard.


    Okay, he treats her wonderfully. That's great. So, why does she try desperately to prove otherwise?


    102 In the field of education, it's easier for a woman to endure a rigid schedule. For example: She could be in her mid-30's. Working 2 part-time jobs, while attending night school. Her overall daily schedule requires at least 14 hours, plus saturdays. But she's very content with these extreme conditions. It's just not fair. Regardless of the obstacles, society teaches her to embrace it, ecstatically.

    .......while permanently remaining fixed at the center-of-attention.

    I could think of a thousand more examples, right now. But you already get the message...
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    Re: A hundred examples of bias against men.

    Great list. Thanks.

    Women sometimes walk into Men's bathrooms, etc.. And society thinks there's nothing wrong with it. However, I certainly believe otherwise. There should be a full-scale war to erase this injustice.
    This is a great point. Women expect absolute privacy yet afford us men little or none.

    Regarding point 101, I hear the terms goddess, princess, and queen used on TV in advertising all the time. It gets really nauseating.
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    Re: A hundred examples of bias against men.

    yeah the toilet thing winds me up a treat, and its getting hard to watch the telly any more, i can only watch the sport/history/nat geo channels and house.
    i have to leave the room when the ads come on though.

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    Re: A hundred examples of bias against men.

    uh-huh!

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    Excellent post!

    One issue I hadn't given much thought about (I'm ashamed to say) is that of the homeless population. Thank you for bringing that to my awareness.

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    Most people accept the idea of 'woman's intuition'.
    I've thought about intuition for a while. I used to wonder whether intuition is real.

    But see the thing is, when considering a question like, "Is 'intuition' real?" - really any sort of question where you're wondering about terms people throw around, it's a good idea not to let yourself get distracted by "theories", questions about what "intuition" might be, how it might be possible, whether it's psychological or supernatural, whatever.You can spend many hours engaged in such speculation and not get any closer to the clarity you seek - though you may find the exercise entertaining and may even come up with "theories" that will impress other people as having some "depth". You won't have anything that gives you genuine understanding though. Instead, always focus not on what X is or might be or whether it exists but rather on how the word "X" is used.

    How is "intuition" used? Under what circumstances? What are the grounds people give for speaking of "intuition"? What are the criteria for judging whether it is appropriate to speak of "intuition"? What are other ways the same circumstances might be described? (And these are good questions to ask with any concept you find troubles you.) If you consider how "intuition" is used, you'll note that it is appealed to as a basis for judgment. Whether people have or don't have intuition (as a capacity or ability) is a claim about whether they have an ability to form judgments on the basis of intuition. But what does it mean for a judgment to be based on intuition?

    People make various judgments as they go through life, often without even thinking. The scientific method provides various means for subjecting certain kinds of judgments (hypotheses) to testing. And outside of science, we try to find evidence to guide our judgments and decisions, to lead us to one conclusion or another. But sometimes, circumstances don't permit the gathering of evidence and decisions are forced in the absence of conclusive evidence. Often, we call this "guessing". But sometimes, people are totally convinced in their judgments. And they want to claim they know, despite not being able to offer any good reasons or evidence for what they claim they know, even though "knowing" requires being able to provide grounds for one's beliefs.

    So they may claim "intuition" is their ground.

    Are they being hasty? Irrational? Dogmatic? Trying to make themselves above questioning? Sometimes. Where we can later test what they claimed to know, e.g. where they made a prediction, they may do no better than blind chance. But of course, people remember their correct predictions and forget their failed ones. In those cases, they might as well have guessed. They might as well call it a guess. And their convictions may be nothing more than bias, prejudice, jumping to conclusions, wishful thinking, irrational fears, and so forth.

    (Like the women who claim to be "fooled" so often by men, they certainly don't seem to have very reliable "intuition" despite what they might at other times claim!)

    One thing to ask, if someone claims "intuition" is how you can know whether they are speaking from "intuition" (or "gut feeling" as some are inclined to call it) or from wishful thing, prejudice, irrationalfears, or whatever. One might also ask them how they can themselves tell if it's "intuition" speaking to them or one of those other things. And if they are angry and defensive about even being asked, that might suggest that claims of "intuition" are just being used to make arbitrary claims without having to justify them.

    So am I saying then that "intuition" is nonsense? Not at all! Not in all cases, at any rate.

    Suppose there's an antiques dealer with a good deal of experience. And suppose she shows a knack for recognizing fakes, reproductions, and the real thing. Suppose that when she sees an item, she can come to judgments about them but is unable to say exactly what her judgment is based on. Call it a "hunch", a "gut feeling". Call it "intuition". Now, it has turned out on numerous occasions that running other tests, finding a provenance, or whatever, has confirmed the judgments she's made. So it seems reasonable to say that her judgment is pretty reliable. Even if she can't explain how she does it.

    Now, never mind theorizing about what's really happening. Let's just suppose it does happen. (And similarly, with others knowing the moods of those around them, knowing whether someone is trustworthy or lying, or what have you. Now, I might be inclined to say that their senses are detecting subtle things that they may not be able to verbalize, that "on some level" or perhaps we could say "subconsciously" they notice something but it doesn't reach a level of awareness that allows them to put it into words. So we needn't be supposing anything magical" or "mystical" here.

    Perhaps it's a quirk in how the brain sorts what is received through the five senses we all have, instead of some sort of "sixth sense". But the "theory" isn't important here. I offer it just so the temptation to find something "metaphysical" can be averted.
    Something to note about counting such individuals as "intuitive" or such judgments as "intuitions" is that one needs to establish a basis for the reliability. And that means that there must be some independent means of checking at least some of their claims.

    So "intuitions" about things we don't know how to verify any other way - religious claims, for example - really won't fit here. And that's also because we're limiting "intuition" to a particular domain. Surely, someone could have sound judgment about antiques but lousy judgment about people. A police detective could be great at "reading" suspects but lousy at reading women and have a long track record of solved cases as well as a string of divorces to prove it. This needn't be anything as remarkable as the antiques dealer.

    Surely most of us having some areas where we seem to make good predictions, where we read people well, where our guesses seem better than luck should allow. And other areas where we aren't so good. "Trust your intuition" is probably bad advice unless we're given a basis for that trust. But we can observe ourselves and if we're honest with ourselves (which means remembering both our good calls and our bad ones, despite the tendency to remember our successes and forget our failures), we can come to a better idea of when and where our judgments are more or less likely to be sound. In the process, we might also improve our judgment in other areas, by learning to tell the difference between intuition and wishful thinking, etc.

    Someone who is more aware of their own biases can be in a better position to correct for them. Or at least to know when to suspend judgment because they realize their judgment might be clouded. (The person who just "trusts their intuition" but doesn't learn from their mistakes doesn't allow themselves to grow in this way.)


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    This is a great point. Women expect absolute privacy yet afford us men little or none.

    Regarding point 101, I hear the terms goddess, princess, and queen used on TV in advertising all the time. It gets really nauseating.
    Women don't want to lose the influence they have over men. That is where they get much of their power.

    They don't want men to ever have any say when it comes to women though, making it a one-sided affair. Men have to start demanding their privacy too.
    When I do this, and I know I will, it will be comparable to the lame learning to walk, the blind being enabled to see and the suffocated breathing again. The sky isn't the limit; there are no limits.

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    Overall, a very well thought out post.
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    Great post. It doesn't contradict itself and doesn't state anything that isn't obvious or politically twisted. I will add that growing up in the church (I noticed this bias from when I was a kid) I was always hearing sermons that chastised men and told them to love their wives and that they not only Gods gift to man but that if you don't mess around your woman (the pastor assumed that all of the men were doing things behind their wives backs) she will love you and lift you up and that your main purpose in marriage as a man was to serve and cherish your wife. There were never sermons directed at women regarding wrongdoing, they were always treated as angels....

    You get out in the lobby and the women are gossiping and complaining about their lives while the men usually were friendly and talked about God or sports, mechanics, science, politics, or anything else but complaining...

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    Women sometimes walk into Men's bathrooms, etc.. And society thinks there's nothing wrong with it. However, I certainly believe otherwise. There should be a full-scale war to erase this injustice.
    Here in Asia, most, if not all, janitors are women, mostly old, but some young. Not only do they clean men's restrooms, but they do so while men are using them. What's more, they do so all day long, so there is rarely a moment a woman is not in the men's room. Basically, it's just job security for old women as most of the cleaning is needless. They clean the bathroom endlessly, even when it's not dirty, which is 95% of the time. They even clean things that never need to be cleaned. I have actually seen a female janitor in a men's restroom polishing the waste basket. They even go around mopping the floor while men are using the urinals, bumping men's feet with their mops. Can you imagine women sitting on toilets with no stalls around them having to put up with male janitors mopping the floor and bumping the women's feet with their mops? Often, the female janitors just hang out in the men's room: stand around, look around, use their cell phones, walk up to guys at the urinals and talk to them, etc.

    The men's restrooms where I currently work are the worst I have seen in all of Asia. Most of the above description applies. For privacy's sake, I only use the stalls, but it still bothers me having my privacy eliminated by women in the restroom. There are more things people do in a restroom, besides #s 1 & 2 that it's nice to have gender privacy for. It was causing me so much anxiety that I asked my boss, a woman, for a transfer to another company site that I know has a private restroom. Our restrooms where I am now are public ones at a mall. She was understanding, but couldn't help chuckling a bit. I don't know if it was a nervous laugh, a genuine one, or an Asian mask to hide her feelings though she is foreign like me. She said there were private bathrooms at the mall that she might be able to get me access to. She later told me that I would need a religious reason to use them. One day, over a twelve hour period I literally only took four sips of water to cut back on my trips to use the bathroom. I started getting a headache, which I never get, and feeling light-headed. I told my boss this. Again, she chuckled. She suggested that I use the family/handicapped restroom, which I now do. Other people, both men and women, do so as well.

    It is still an incovenience, though, as I often have to wait. Today, I spent twenty minutes after work trying to find an unlocked family room or a men's room that wasn't locked or being cleaned.

    It's not just female janitors, though. Asian women freely walk into men's rooms when the ladies' room is overcrowded laughing hysterically as they do so. Someone I know said the female principal at his school walked in on him while he was in the boys' room as she was checking to see if there were any boys in there smoking. Couldn't she have sent in a male teacher? Would a male principal be allowed to walk into the girls' room to "look for smokers"?

    Women would never be subjected to this kind of treatment. Women objecting to this kind of treatment would never be made to feel as though they were weak, gay or ashamed of their bodies. They would be fiercely defended and never laughed at. I intimated these things to my boss, to which she replied, "I see where you're going with this." I truly believe she is being supportive but just doesn't know how to handle it. For one thing, we are both foreigners.

    Some things just need to be done in private, for the sake of those doing them, not those invading people's privacy. Toilet functions are one of those things.
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    Here in Asia, most if not all janitors are women, mostly old, but some young. Not only do they clean men's restrooms, but they do so while men are using them. What's more, they do so all day long, so there is rarely a moment a woman is not in the men's room. Basically, it's just job security for old women as most of the cleaning is needless. They clean the bathroom endlessly, even when it's not dirty, which is 95% of the time. They even clean things that never need to be cleaned. I have actually seen a female janitor in a men's restroom polishing the waste basket. They even go around mopping the floor while men are using the urinals, bumping men's feet with their mops. Can you imagine women sitting on toilets with no stalls around them having to put up with male janitors mopping the floor and bumping the women's feet with their mops? Often, the female janitors just hang out in the men's room: stand around, look around, use their cell phones, walk up to guys at the urinals and talk to them, etc.

    The men's restrooms where I currently work are the worst I have seen in all of Asia. Most of the above description applies. For privacy's sake, I only use the stalls, but it still bothers me having my privacy eliminated by women in the restroom. There are more things people do in a restroom, besides #s 1 & 2 that it's nice to have gender privacy for. It was causing me so much anxiety that I asked my boss, a woman, for a transfer to another company site that I know has a private restroom. Our restrooms where I am now are public ones at a mall. She was understanding, but couldn't help chuckling a bit. I don't know if it was a nervous laugh, a genuine one, or an Asian mask to hide her feelings though she is foreign like me. She said there were private bathrooms at the mall that she might be able to get me access to. She later told me that I would need a religious reason to use them. One day, over a twelve hour period I literally only took four sips of water to cut back on my trips to use the bathroom. I started getting a headache, which I never get, and feeling light-headed. I told my boss this. Again, she chuckled. She suggested that I use the family/handicapped restroom, which I now do. Other people, both men and women, do so as well.

    It is still an incovenience, though, as I often have to wait. Today, I spent twenty minutes after work trying to find an unlocked family room or a men's room that wasn't locked or being cleaned.

    It's not just female janitors, though. Asian women freely walk into men's rooms when the ladies' room is overcrowded laughing hysterically as they do so. Someone I know said the female principal at his school walked in on him while he was in the boys' room as she was checking to see if there were any boys in there smoking. Couldn't she have sent in a male teacher? Would a male principal be allowed to walk into the girls' room to "look for smokers"?

    Women would never be subjected to this kind of treatment. Women objecting to this kind of treatment would never be made to feel as though they were weak, gay or ashamed of their bodies. They would be fiercely defended and never laughed at. I intimated these things to my boss, to which she replied, "I see where you're going with this." I truly believe she is being supportive but just doesn't know how to handle it. For one thing, we are both foreigners.

    Somethings just need to be done in private, for the sake of those doing them, not those invading people's privacy. Toilet functions are one of those things.
    One issue I see is that every issue that men bring up about men is considered unworthy regardless of the severity of the issue (because they're men) and every issue brought up regarding women is always considered noteworthy regardless of how dumb it is. If we take 2 issues that are equally severe or equally trivial or issues that even are more severe in the man's case it almost always favors the woman's perspective.

    I don't understand. How can women not at least be partially responsible for this when everything is based on "the woman's perspective"?
    When I do this, and I know I will, it will be comparable to the lame learning to walk, the blind being enabled to see and the suffocated breathing again. The sky isn't the limit; there are no limits.


 

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