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    Feminism is Femdom


    It is basically what it has always been but it is becoming ever more apparent. All feminism roots back to a female desire for Matriarchy - for dominance and control over men.

    Everything it does - all its laws, propaganda, etc. - is a manifestation of this desire.

    The intellectual/political feminist movement and the burgeoning "femdom" scene are basically mirror images of each other. The hypocracy, the man-hatred, the unreasonable demands, referring to men as pigs.

    The femdom scene however completely unmasks the pretence. These purely political slogans of "equality" and "fairness" are all left to the wayside.

    Some weak MRAs say that things have moved on from the Dworkins and Solanas of the 1960s. This couldn't be further from the truth. The essence of feminism is the exact same now as it was then. Nothing has changed. The terms of expression may have changed, but not the spirit.

    The this owner of this femdom website hates men completely, seeing them as non-humans. It is no coincidence that she makes pronouncements such as this in her "personal beliefs" section:

    Alimony is a beautiful thing. I view it as a punishment exacted on men for presuming to think that they could be in a relationship with a woman who is their equal - or even their inferior! Now these stupid assholes are legally forced to pay the Asshole Tax! Many of them never learn their lesson and wind up paying the Asshole Tax to multiple women! Hahahah! Their psychotic need to assert themselves in their relationships just fucks them over, and I LOVE IT!
    And that is just the start of it; just a peak into the political views of this feminist-femdom harlot. Alimony and child support are all 100% feminist systems and they have always struck me as so.

    Notice the parallels, the mirroring between the "legitimate" feminist movement and the femdom "scene" which is we suppose some sort of mere cultural occurrence. Compare the viewso of each group on men and women (which the honest harlots refer to as capitalised Women). They are identical.

    Andrea Dworkin said once that she wants to see "a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in a mouth of a pig". It looks like she got her wish. Indeed it is all the feminist movement has ever been driven by.

    I have thus come to the conclusion that no feminism is acceptable - because it all roots back to the above mindset. All forms of it must be opposed. Every feminist demand - from suffrage to abortion - is illegitimate.

    All of the Feminist/Matriarchy/Male-Hatred/Femdom movement must be opposed. None of it is salvgeable.

    Nor is this simply a reaction to an extremist statement against men - which would of course be justified in any event. No, this is due to understanding the Feminist Question on many different levels, from many different angles.

    In conclusion, femdom is both conclusion and root psychological desire behind the women's movement/feminism. Similarly, feminism is the conclusion of the practice of femdom.

    It is the only logical conclusion any logical, reasonable man can reach.

    I am henceforth a Masculinist, Patriarchist and Absolutist Anti-Feminist. The time for equivocation in terms of feminism, for me, is over. If one is to be concerned about feminism at all, I see no other sensible position than the one I have laid out.

    The mainstreaming of femdom in recent years speaks alot for the strength of Feminism/Matriarchy in our society. We should all be aware of how things are regardless.

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    Re: Feminism is Femdom

    Do you think we should complain about this site and have it shut down?

    I know the MRA have done this before with the help from women.

    Maybe this post should be on facebook????
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    Re: Feminism is Femdom

    Quote Quote from Male-Rights-Network View Post

    It is basically what it has always been but it is becoming ever more apparent. All feminism roots back to a female desire for Matriarchy - for dominance and control over men.

    Everything it does - all its laws, propaganda, etc. - is a manifestation of this desire.

    The intellectual/political feminist movement and the burgeoning "femdom" scene are basically mirror images of each other. The hypocracy, the man-hatred, the unreasonable demands, referring to men as pigs.

    The femdom scene however completely unmasks the pretence. These purely political slogans of "equality" and "fairness" are all left to the wayside.

    Some weak MRAs say that things have moved on from the Dworkins and Solanas of the 1960s. This couldn't be further from the truth. The essence of feminism is the exact same now as it was then. Nothing has changed. The terms of expression may have changed, but not the spirit.

    The this owner of this femdom website hates men completely, seeing them as non-humans. It is no coincidence that she makes pronouncements such as this in her "personal beliefs" section:
    Alimony is a beautiful thing. I view it as a punishment exacted on men for presuming to think that they could be in a relationship with a woman who is their equal - or even their inferior! Now these stupid assholes are legally forced to pay the Asshole Tax! Many of them never learn their lesson and wind up paying the Asshole Tax to multiple women! Hahahah! Their psychotic need to assert themselves in their relationships just fucks them over, and I LOVE IT!
    And that is just the start of it; just a peak into the political views of this feminist-femdom harlot. Alimony and child support are all 100% feminist systems and they have always struck me as so.

    Notice the parallels, the mirroring between the "legitimate" feminist movement and the femdom "scene" which is we suppose some sort of mere cultural occurrence. Compare the viewso of each group on men and women (which the honest harlots refer to as capitalised Women). They are identical.

    Andrea Dworkin said once that she wants to see "a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in a mouth of a pig". It looks like she got her wish. Indeed it is all the feminist movement has ever been driven by.

    I have thus come to the conclusion that no feminism is acceptable - because it all roots back to the above mindset. All forms of it must be opposed. Every feminist demand - from suffrage to abortion - is illegitimate.

    All of the Feminist/Matriarchy/Male-Hatred/Femdom movement must be opposed. None of it is salvgeable.

    Nor is this simply a reaction to an extremist statement against men - which would of course be justified in any event. No, this is due to understanding the Feminist Question on many different levels, from many different angles.

    In conclusion, femdom is both conclusion and root psychological desire behind the women's movement/feminism. Similarly, feminism is the conclusion of the practice of femdom.

    It is the only logical conclusion any logical, reasonable man can reach.

    I am henceforth a Masculinist, Patriarchist and Absolutist Anti-Feminist. The time for equivocation in terms of feminism, for me, is over. If one is to be concerned about feminism at all, I see no other sensible position than the one I have laid out.

    The mainstreaming of femdom in recent years speaks alot for the strength of Feminism/Matriarchy in our society. We should all be aware of how things are regardless.

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    """..These purely political slogans of "equality" and "fairness" are all left to the wayside...."

    these were merely a camouflage to cloak their nasty take over machinations - having attained control the feminits discard them as having served their purpose to deceive

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    Re: Feminism is Femdom

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    Do you think we should complain about this site and have it shut down?

    I know the MRA have done this before with the help from women.
    I wouldn't see the point because it's just one site of many. What would be the achievement of shutting this one site down when there's there's a multitude that say the exact same thing. Anyway, I'm sure the site is protected by the First Amendment.

    The point of my post was to forge the link between feminism and femdom more than anything else.

    Maybe this post should be on facebook???
    Perhaps but not as a campaign against an individual website.

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    Re: Feminism is Femdom

    Male-Rights-Network, with all due respect to you for what you go through as a man and as an advocate for men's rights .....

    Do you think you are a pessimist?

    Do you not think that we are all in serious trouble and maybe how ever many we can bring together is good to fight back? Maybe the needed people are not on men's sites. Maybe they are elsewhere and we need to sacrafice as much of ourselves as possible for something that is bigger than ourselves?
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    Re: Feminism is Femdom

    Do you think you are a pessimist?
    I don't expect any progress to be made in the Feminist West, because I understand that the core of feminism is man-hatred. In this sense I am a pessimist, yes.

    Do you not think that we are all in serious trouble and maybe how ever many we can bring together is good to fight back?
    I don't see how my pessimism/realism in posts like this limits the numbers coming to the site.

    Maybe they are elsewhere and we need to sacrafice as much of ourselves as possible for something that is bigger than ourselves?
    We certainly are fighting something bigger than ourselves; I have always understood that. When we fight feminism we fight the very essence of our culture and where it is going.

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    You sound like a neat guy Male-Rights-Network.

    Billy sure is.

    I do what I do for the young men mostly and old school feminists say that our generation has to equal the extreme they went to. They say they are too old now to fight. Mind you some of them look great. They had made their generation spoilt at the cost of the next and the next and the next.

    But I guess, I know that for many of us this is our war.

    Wartime as in missiles and the like missed a couple of generations in many countries. Our war is different.
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    Re: Feminism is Femdom

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    In conclusion, femdom is both conclusion and root psychological desire behind the women's movement/feminism. Similarly, feminism is the conclusion of the practice of femdom.
    Makes sense to me.

    Julie said:
    Do you think we should complain about this site and have it shut down?
    That would be difficult, given the irony of so many gimperated submissive males subscribing to such sites to satisfy their pitiful and tawdry (bolstering the sickness of feminism) sexual desires.

    MRN said:
    The point of my post was to forge the link between feminism and femdom more than anything else.
    It's something that I realized a long time ago, and I think a growing number of people are making that link too. I wonder if there's been any kind of credible research in this area?
    Last edited by Celtic Druid; 12th-March-2009 at 05:12 PM.
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    Re: Feminism is Femdom

    It's something that I realized a long time ago, and I think a growing number of people are making that link too. I wonder if there's been any kind of credible research in this area?


    There isn't, but it is something which becomes obvious very quickly to anyone on either the pro or anti-feminist side of the camp.

    The most you have in terms of "research" is feminists giving a topical view of femdom - saying it's a positive cultural phenomenon, a "good" type of porn, et cetera.

    None will go as far as saying that the values of femdom are the exact same as the value of feminism though, even though that is the truth.

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    you people are crazy and absolutely and totally wrong. Feminism does not equal man-hatred, it does not have its roots in man-hatred.. hatred of male domination maybe!!... domination of any kind for that matter. Somehow because you don't like the see certain women..(and men) get off by exploring femdom relationships...mostly in porn- you think women should not have rights to alimony or access to abortion?!? You are insane and ignorant, so please stop contributing such bs ideas to the world... even if its on some unknown, unread, ridiculous blog. You do realize you are committing the same type of behavior you seem to be so outraged by.

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    I believe in freedom (of word and writing) - so why some people want to delete this blog.. or they say 'u cant say like this!' ?
    There is many femdom and feminists blog - and nobody say anything wrong. Political correctness?Who was created this roles?
    I think this is a kind of fight, kind of war - spirit war! Unfortunately many country like Greece or Poland have still the same problem with feminism - like in USA many years ago. Now USA womens and feminists are more clever and not many of them are so radically unreasonable and unconsciuos like in the past. (Sorry for my unperfect english).
    Nice to see people who think, think and make some action in non-POPular direction which is non-femdom;-)
    This spiritual war is harder for mens who feels naturally masochistic/have this kind of family patterns - and this is the reason why blogs like this are absolutely NEEDED!To save a minimum of equilibrium between mens and womens in this war. (because this war is not fair) . Cheers!

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    the only defence nowadays for men is to avoid signing any sort of contract with wimyn and rent their main asset instead !

    men pay prostitutes ( er sex workers in feminit PC) not for sex but rather for the whore to stay away later

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    Very old thread, I know, but the premise of this thread is bullocks.

    The site linked to (gone but you can find it on archive.org) isn't actual femdom, it is entertainment, men projecting their ideas of what they want dominant women to be like. Topping from the bottom. She simply capitalized off of it.

    There are truly dominant women, and I as a male tend to like them. A truly dominant woman however is not cruel, but rather, nurturing. There may be some role play in that direction but such role play is generally done for the benefit of the submissive males sexual urges to be dominated in that way.

    A true domme cares about her submissives, which can be male or female, and many domme's actually switch - where sometimes their submissives are dominant.

    Femdom is a branch of BDSM and has nothing to do with feminism. Many domme's don't really like feminism.

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    Very old thread, I know, but the premise of this thread is bullocks.

    The site linked to (gone but you can find it on archive.org) isn't actual femdom, it is entertainment, men projecting their ideas of what they want dominant women to be like. Topping from the bottom. She simply capitalized off of it.

    There are truly dominant women, and I as a male tend to like them. A truly dominant woman however is not cruel, but rather, nurturing. There may be some role play in that direction but such role play is generally done for the benefit of the submissive males sexual urges to be dominated in that way.

    A true domme cares about her submissives, which can be male or female, and many domme's actually switch - where sometimes their submissives are dominant.

    Femdom is a branch of BDSM and has nothing to do with feminism. Many domme's don't really like feminism.

    You're entitled to whatever opinion lubricates the jollies you get off on. However, all the studies show that damaged and misandric women gravitate to the role of dominatrix. How you equate a man being beaten and humiliated as 'nuturing' is beyond me.

    I wouldn't submit to the barrel of a rifle, let alone something you pay hard-earned money for. That is how we radically differ. Furthermore, don't try to sell some bullshit that there isn't a link with feminism and BDSM. The two are integrally linked (do the relevant research).

    Whole civil rights movements have been historically formed to prevent folk from being treated as sub-human, and there's you setting back the rights of men by paying for your discrimination and humiliation (and to preempt your retort about it being private, it always finds it's way into the political eventually).
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    'Rise like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number - Shake your chains to earth like dew Which in sleep had fallen on you - Ye are many - they are few.'

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    "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. "
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    I am the anonymous person you responded to. There is a difference between a bully and dominant. What you exhibited at the end of your post is that of a bully.
    `all the studies' is something I find highly doubtful.

    A man being beaten and humiliated is NEVER done beyond what the man (or woman if the sub is female) is willing to participate it. By a bully it might be, there's a word for that, but not by a dominant.
    The submissive always has at least one safe word. I once suggested a scenario where the safe word would be something humiliating and the domme would intentionally try to push my limits just enough to get me to use it. The domme thought it might be a fun game but insisted that there also be a non humiliating safe word because she would not participate in BDSM play where the submissive did not have a non humiliating way out. We haven't done that yet, and to be honest, I've personally never had to use a safe word because how far things will go is always discussed beforehand and the safe word primarily is there for cases when both the sub and and the dominant mis-judge how far things should go.

    BDSM requires trust, and both the submissive and the dominant build a bond of trust with each other. Much of the time is spent outside the role play, as equals. I suspect many are not aware of that, but rather base their judgement of femdom on the shock they have of what happens during the consensual role play.

    Just like some people are born heterosexual, some are born homosexual, some are born bi-sexual, some are born the wrong gender (medical fact) - some people are born naturally dominant and some are born naturally submissive. The dominant and submissive complete each other, the yin and the yang. It is a very beautiful relationship. Some are born vanilla and that's fine too. I do not suggest that all men have to be submissive to women, that would be rather close-minded of me. Some women crave the domination of men and some don't.

    I don't know how you vetted your alleged research, but many feminists don't like the sexually dominant women. Sexually dominant women use their body as a weapon, to tease the submissive, and the feminist sees that as sexual objectification. Many domme's love high heels, short skirts, and so-called BJ lips because they can use them to get men to do what they want. They are often referred to as tease princesses. The exact opposite of what the feminist would have them wear or how the feminist would have them behave.

    Please do a little research yourself because it is you who are ignorant on the topic of femdom.

    Thank you.


 

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