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Douchebag lawyer and his douchebag lawsuit: "Feminism violates men's rights!"

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Douchebag lawyer and his douchebag lawsuit: "Feminism violates men's rights!"

From Bitch Magazine: Douchebag lawyer and his douchebag lawsuit: "Feminism violates men's rights!"

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So New York lawyer Roy Den Hollander once married a young woman he met while working as a private investigator in Russia. Once Den Hollander moved himself and his foreign bride back to New York City, though, she took a job as a stripper and proceeded to dump him within months.

It's a sad little story, and probably not nearly the first of its kind. But to say Den Hollander seems to have had a wee bit of trouble letting it go would be a massive understatement. Since his marriage ended, the spurned groom has turned into a men's-rights crusader so convinced that feminism is the reason for all his personal woes that he's literally made a career out of litigating against it. Back in 2001, Den Hollander filed a lawsuit against his ex-wife and Flash Dancers, the club where she worked. It was dismissed. In June 2007, having decided that life as a single man was being seriously hindered by the costs of attending the "Ladies Nights" hosted by bars and clubs—and perhaps being one of the few dudes to see things so gloomily, since isn't one of the main points of Ladies Night to ensure a surplus of tippling gals, making the odds all the better for creepy men on the make?—Den Hollander struck again. His federal lawsuit, detailed in an August 2007 New Yorkerprofile, cited discrimination based on the fact that admission to clubs on Ladies Night was reduced for, you know, the ladies. That suit is still pending. (However, a similar suit filed in Denver, Colo. the same year failed to convince a judge that offering women the chance to pay a few dollars less for their Screaming Orgasms and stale pretzels on Ladies Night constituted a violation of men's civil rights.)

But Den Hollander—whose third assy lawsuit targeted the federal government's Violence Against Women Act—will not be stopped. The Energizer Bunny of frivolous litigation, his latest full-scale tantrum addresses Columbia University and its women's-studies courses, which his suit describes as an indoctrination program responsible for "spreading prejudice and fostering animosity and distrust toward men with the result of wholesale violation of men's rights due to ignorance, falsehoods, and malice." It adds that, "Columbia has thrown its influence and prestige into violating the rights of men by offering a women's studies program but no men's studies program." (This from the man who in that New Yorker piece defended his beef with Title IX with the razor-sharp legal reasoning that "Sports isn't a big thing to girls, but it's a big thing to guys.")

Apparently, Den Hollander got his M.B.A. from Columbia, which seems like the only reason he'd be targeting only the women's-studies courses of that particular university. I mean, really, why not go whole hog and name every single women's-studies and women's-history course and department in the whole United States in the suit, if the object here is really to wipe out this nasty epidemic of female empowerment?

Geez. Feminism may not have the reputation for being funny, but antifeminism, as this story proves, can be hilarious. Oh, and he's got a MySpace page, according to this. I'm not going, but feel free to check it out and report back.


 
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written by a douchbag


 
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Re: Douchebag lawyer and his douchebag lawsuit: "Feminism violates men's rights!"

Her post is just one loooonnnngggg ad hominem attack . . . nothing new there


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Re: Douchebag lawyer and his douchebag lawsuit: "Feminism violates men's rights!"

In June 2007, having decided that life as a single man was being seriously hindered by the costs of attending the "Ladies Nights" hosted by bars and clubs—and perhaps being one of the few dudes to see things so gloomily, since isn't one of the main points of Ladies Night to ensure a surplus of tippling gals, making the odds all the better for creepy men on the make?—Den Hollander struck again.

Sarcasm is not argument it is evasion

I suspect if we looked over a list of N.O.W.'s legal history we'd find some interesting suits



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Re: Douchebag lawyer and his douchebag lawsuit: "Feminism violates men's rights!"

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I suspect if we looked over a list of N.O.W.'s legal history we'd find some interesting suits
The difference being is this; when NOW and their ilk sued places like GPA - they 'forgot' to mention the FPGA existed, giving the public the impression that it was a 100% a one-way discrimination.
Yet, here we are seeing obvious one-way discrimination in the form of free drinks for women only, and it is mocked.








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Re: Douchebag lawyer and his douchebag lawsuit: "Feminism violates men's rights!"

Not to spoil the orgasm-fest among our side, but the libertarian in me feels compelled to point out that the State and its excesses are the enemy. When a lawyer uses the enemy in order to advance what he thinks is our agenda, he validates the enemy. It would be better if the goal were simply to get the State to leave us alone.

Any private business should be allowed to discriminate against men if it wishes. The whole idea that such a business should be sued (under the law) is exactly the oppression that we are fighting against. Such tactics validate and legitimize the frivolous lawsuits that the femmies are so fond of bringing.

Now as far as his lawsuit against the university, that's different; his premise is that the university accepts federal dollars and thus must serve both sexes. But by that premise, a remedy would be to institute a program in which women are just as demonized as men now are demonized under the Feminist Studies program now in existence at Columbia. Never is it questioned that public money shouldn't be subsidizing the university at all (although that is a political question outside the scope of the courts). We are left between demanding a greater slice of the socialist pie, or being demonized by a discriminatory program that exists because of socialism.

Just wonderful. We're now clamoring for the creation of an enemy of our enemy.


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Re: Douchebag lawyer and his douchebag lawsuit: "Feminism violates men's rights!"

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Not to spoil the orgasm-fest among our side, but the libertarian in me feels compelled to point out that the State and its excesses are the enemy. When a lawyer uses the enemy in order to advance what he thinks is our agenda, he validates the enemy. It would be better if the goal were simply to get the State to leave us alone.

. . .

Just wonderful. We're now clamoring for the creation of an enemy of our enemy.
John Dias

Agreed, but we must also remember a few years ago when it was impossible to simple speak up.

The ultimate goal must, of course, be to limit government. In fact, I believe, we must limit influence on government to men only. Men are the ones who makes a society and thus the ones who should have a say in how it's run.


 
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