More often, it is divorced fathers who lose interest in children from first marriages and fail to make welfare payments.

As well as the whole turkey baster point- No doubt.

Someone explain to me how EITHER are pertinent to the apparent goals F4J?
I read the plaint,
NOW, shut the fuck up on the subject Motheratlarge (where ever you are)

How do you happen to find this stuff Frosty?

I wouldn't let one of them anywhere near a child of mine.

They don't want to be near your manky offspring you finger-diddling wankerette. They want to be near their own, but vicious, dismissive crotches like you won't let them.

I have a great deal of respect for Fathers 4 Justice, as they are actually doing something to draw attention to the terrible situation that they are in !!!

Well done !!!


Robert.

Yea verily. Rob.

And it will come to pass that they will stand astride bridges and the throngs will marvel. The traffic will honk mightily. The Word of the Father will resound throughout the lands. (Matt. (O'Connor) 3. 11. Handbook of F4J)

What exactly is 'frightening' about a guy sitting on a crane, bridge, etc. with a banner? They're not violent, they're not throwing things at passers-by, they're just showing they're sick of being treated as walking wallets by the feminist government.
And that is 'frightening'?
Let me share with you what *I* find frightening. It is a very scarey prospect to know that one day your life can be full of love, seeing your kids daily, being a healthy & active part of their lives, and the next - cast out with a false allegation of some abuses or another, and she can thus force you out of your child's lives, and the ONLY thing she wants is money while she (not necessarily the court) refuses to let you see your own flesh and blood.<br/>You should put yourself in that position and then you'll understand the definition of fear.
Men live in fear of women's scorn and women do not care, so long as they retain their death-grip over the money coming in.
Posted 29 June 2008 14:47

That's what I wrote on their page.

F4J are heroes!!!

They have the guts to say something and take action

The F4J stunts serve no purpose, I know because I use to do the same thing until I learned, 1) The attention is temporary 2) It changes NOTHING.

The internet is full of web sites with endless elaborating of Men's problems, this again changes NOTHING.

The only way to change things is a Large Scale "Civil Disobedience" by Men and Father's Rights groups and it has to start now because of the elections.

Civil disobedience is the active refusal to obey certain laws, demands and commands of a government, without resorting to physical violence. It is one of the primary tactics of nonviolent resistance. In its most nonviolent form (known as ahimsa or satyagraha) it could be said that it is compassion in the form of respectful disagreement.

It has been used for over 100 years with great success.

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr, and young activists in the American civil rights movement of the 1960s also adopted civil disobedience techniques, and antiwar activists both during and after the Vietnam War have done likewise. Since the 1970s, pro-life or anti-abortion groups have practiced civil disobedience against the U.S. government over the issue of legalized abortion.

I have the plan, but it will take GUTS and 100% commitment until our goal is accomplished. If you have any interest and balls, e-mail me at admin@mensreality.com

Quote from frostyboy

Why I dislike Fathers 4 Justice

I got a lot of help from Fathers For Juistice, if it wasn't for them, i wouldn't be seeing my daughter!!! (My daughter means the world to me)
Allthough i wasn't a super hero character i went on protests with them and i felt better for it".

Allthough F4J did disrupt some peoples lives, this was only short lived compared to what the courts do to seperated parents, doesn't matter if your male or female.I can tell you some terrible things that went on in my court case, but i wasn't the only person suffering!!
The one thing that annoys me is, what would anybody do to get contact with your kids, would you trust a solicitor, would you trust your instincts".Well i went through four solicitors, all totally useless, i started to represent myself with the help of W.D Willson.
Recently i saw a article written by a young boy saying he would fight to the bitter end to see his kids.His mother explained why fathers have dressed as super heros, the lad said" he thinks it's good that fathers are doing something that makes people aware of whats going on in the country.
I have talked to other people, not associated with F4J who are more extremist, so in comparison to what F4J have done, is just make people aware of what is going on in the country.

I hope that some other organisation starts up, something allong the lines of feminism, i think "FEMINISM IS DESTROYING MANKIND".Extremist Feminism should be outlawed!!!

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The posting could not be found.

It seems, this article is gone and also the comments?

Couldn't handle the truth coming back at 'em, perhaps?

Quote from MensReality

The F4J stunts serve no purpose, I know because I use to do the same thing until I learned, 1) The attention is temporary 2) It changes NOTHING.

The internet is full of web sites with endless elaborating of Men's problems, this again changes NOTHING.

The only way to change things is a Large Scale "Civil Disobedience" by Men and Father's Rights groups and it has to start now because of the elections....

It is very difficult to change something for men, who are already fathers and have problems.

Civil Disobedience...? What can be done is easy: Tell every young man not to marry and never be a father...no marriage, no children..

This problem can be only solved with a long-term program.

What F4J is doing now helps to get some attention about father's legal situation, but it is not a solution. This F4J group is missing a long-term program, which says NO to marriage/children, it is missing a long-term program for young men, who are not married, who are not a father yet.

The only solution is: no children - of course reject openly single mothers with children, too...reject any contact, including cohabitation, which could make you to be a father (father = ATM)

You need not to be a biological father to be forced to pay for children!

i have no idea whether this frostyboy is a man or a woman, or perhaps neither but the content of its posting about F4J shows it has the intelect and emotion of a dead rat.

You think these guys who dress as superheroes do it for a laugh? You think most of them dont pay maintenance and went off and shagged a 20 year secretery and deserve to never see their kids ? Many of them, myself included, made only one mistake - marrying an evil self obsessed border line bitch who just wanted to screw them for money and never let them see their kids again.

Agreed before i had kids i never undestood why some wanker would close Tower Bridge dressed as spiderman. But if you had the brains to bother to find out, you'd know the superhero costumes is about awareness and represents what childrens think of their dads - every kid see's there dad as a hero and quite frankly, anybody who wants to dress like that and climb a bridge to fight for their right to see their child is a f*cking hero and it certainly DOES change awareness and, indeed, laws. If you had half the brains you were born with, which i suspect would still be minute, you'd know that laws have already started to change and the only criminals in these disputes are the evil bitch women who, lets face it, use their childrens as pawns to hurt their ex. That is called Child Abuse - mental child abuse but still CHILD ABUSE. They are the ones that need locking up - they are not fit to raise children and will no doubt produce a bout of border line kids that are incapable of having proper relationshops when they grow up.

Frosty was just posting a find... It was not his opinions about F4J...

TMOTS

Meanwhile back in the rel world Real Fathers for Justice - News although I believe the superhero protests have had their day, I feel it owould be better to bombard the world leaders e-mails with the facts , but of course it would take all of us to do it!