Teen girls sucked into crime by older men

**MikeT** · 6th-February-2010

I really saw red when I read the first few lines of this story:

LINK @ Stuff

More teenage girls are turning to crime and violence after becoming addicted to drugs and alcohol through their older boyfriends, a Nelson lawyer says.
His observations are backed up by groundbreaking research being done by social anthropologist Donna Swift, who says the teenage girls in trouble with police for violence or anti-social behaviour she deals with, often have boyfriends four or five years older.

Lawyer John Sandston said during the past year he had noticed a pattern emerging where in "case after case" the girls aged 14-16 coming before the Youth Court on violence and dishonesty charges were hanging around with much older men, who were giving them drugs and alcohol, initially for free.
"It's not every girl, but the vast majority seem to have boyfriends five to seven years older than them or they are in a group with males that age."
He acknowledged the issue of young girls dating older men was not a new phenomenon but said he was concerned as anecdotally it seemed to be getting worse.

Both Mr Sandston and Dr Swift said they were concerned these young girls were heading down a destructive path, had bad self-esteem and were dropping out of school.
"My concern is where is this going to lead these kids?" Mr Sandston said.
He said he had discovered that often the young girls were getting alcohol for free initially and when the free supply dried up, turned to crime, like burglaries or robberies, to either support their habits or pay back debts.
He believed some also were carrying out sexual favours to pay for the drugs or alcohol.

He felt it was the "modus operandi" of the men to pick up young girls and get them hooked on drugs and alcohol.
He was familiar with the names of many of the older men the girls were dating or hanging around with as they regularly appeared in the district court, he said.
Mr Sandston said it had become more common to see the older boyfriends waiting at Youth Court while their younger girlfriends appeared.
The girls were also hanging out at the district court while their boyfriends appeared on charges.
A lot of the girls were bright and it was a shame to see them destroying their lives, he said.

Mr Sandston wanted to speak out as he was concerned some parents had no idea what was going on.
Dr Swift is a third of the way through ground-breaking research looking at the use of violence and anti-social behaviour in girls aged 13 to 17, called The Girls' Project.
As part of her studies Dr Swift is gathering information from 3000 young girls in the Tasman police district, which covers the top of the South Island.
Dr Swift said a pattern had emerged in that many of the girls in trouble she spoke to had older boyfriends.
The girls were often physically mature and did not fit in at school, or have other interests.

Often the older boyfriend was the only thing that made them feel good.
She said what concerned her was that the relationships the girls had with their older partners often had a level of dating violence that was similar to a domestic violence type relationship.
"There's an awful lot of young girls spending time with their boyfriends – girls 14, 15, 16, maybe even younger, going out with guys and getting bashed around or abused the same you would see in a domestic violence relationship."
Dr Swift said girls accounted for about 30 per cent of the youth violence reported to police in the Tasman police district, which was up from 25 per cent five or six years ago.

Little research had been carried out about girls and violence in New Zealand, which was partly why her study was so important, she said.
However because these girls will be mothers and nurture the next generation, there was huge potential by intervening with this small group of girls to reduce youth violence and make a big difference.

First of all, what the hell is a "social anthropologist" (is this a new buzz-word that means the same thing as feminist social worker?) and why is she blaming men for the poor life choices of women and the fact that they are becoming increasingly more aggressive and coarse?.

**nivek** · 6th-February-2010

So the rise in female crime is all men's fault eh ......... never expected that

**Percy** · 6th-February-2010

.....are backed up by groundbreaking research being done by social anthropologist Donna Swift, who says the teenage girls in trouble with police for violence or anti-social behaviour she deals with, often have two legs as well as two arms and in most cases, two arses, one being smaller and infront.

**Kargan3033** · 6th-February-2010

What a bucket of distilled goat load.

Did it ever occure that the reason why girls are turning into such feral humans is because they have been robbed of a good and loving father who would have kept them on the stright and narrow?
Also I wonder how many of these*troubled* girls come from a single mother household

**Celtic Druid** · 6th-February-2010

This biased piece is absolute piffle.

Teenage girls are a law unto themselves and are anything but naive and pliable, quite the contrary, and more than likely these so-called "girls" are acting as provocative puppeteers to 'enticed' male puppets of all ages to undertake their conniving bidding.

As an anthropolgist, surely this woman realizes that habitually allaying the blame of one group (women) only stunts evolutionary progress overall and throws nature out of kilter as a consequence (the status quo)?

Quote from MikeT

First of all, what the hell is a "social anthropologist"

As with every other subject, it's viewing anthropology through an ideological filter. It's about dominating the discourse, definitions and terminology of any given subject and thusly you can shape perceptions and influence accordingly.

**Kargan3033** · 6th-February-2010

Quote from MikeT

I really saw red when I read the first few lines of this story:

LINK @ Stuff

First of all, what the hell is a "social anthropologist" (is this a new buzz-word that means the same thing as feminist social worker?) and why is she blaming men for the poor life choices of women and the fact that they are becoming increasingly more aggressive and coarse?.

I think it means a shit studier Hehehe after all women studies are shit

**Incognito** · 6th-February-2010

hahahaha!

the only place teen girls heads are sucked into , is their own ass! "There is a crack in everything... that's how the light gets in"

Sorry.

**rohara** · 7th-February-2010

This is nothing more than White Slavery hysteria.

Do young men not make bad mistakes in their teens that cause them trouble in their lives? Of course! And we hold them accountable for it. Part of growing up is learning how to take responsibility for your actions and dealing with the consequences.
Contrast this to what happens when girls that age behave in a destructive manner. They are not held accountable and the blame is placed on the nearest man in their lives. And we actually have expert "Social Anthropologists" to "back up" this action.

This is the narrative that I think most likely describes the lives of these troubled young girls:

Born into a singe mother household where the father, if we even know who he is, is treated as nothing more than a sperm donor turned AMT machine and therefore has no meaningful relationship with his daughter.

She reaches puberty and starts to yearn for a mature male presence in her life as her mother has not seen it fit to have a man around. So she starts to take an interest in men-not boys. Because she never had a father around to tell her that she was special just because she was who she was the only way she can get the attention from men is by pretending to behave like and dressing like a much older woman. And not just any woman but like the women that adorn the covers of the stupid magazines that she reads.

Inevitably she latches on to some looser who can't hack it with someone his own age who introduces her to crack. He doesn't force her to take it she takes it of her own volition because she wants to be cool. And she learns how to like crack real quick!

Two years later we find her walking the streets, pregnant, addicted to crack, and sucking any cock she can for $20.

Now who is at fault here?
Her and her mother. Yup that’s right, the both of them but mostly it is her fault. You have to pay the price for your bad decisions and that is all there is to it. It's called growing up. And having people coddle you at the age of 18 and tell you that you were just taken advantage of isn’t going to help you grow up one bit. It only enables your destructive behavior further.
Her mother is at fault for valuing a monthly check more than having the crucial presence of a male around for the upbringing of their children.

But of course the whole thing gets turned into a father and thug blame fest. And what a party it is.

**Zuberi** · 7th-February-2010

That ground breaking research was done by a feminist nut job. This article is nothing more than hog propaganda to keep blame off the women who make stupid choices that get them into trouble.

**shaazam** · 7th-February-2010

Quote from Incognito

hahahaha!

the only place teen girls heads are sucked into , is their own ass! "There is a crack in everything... that's how the light gets in"

Sorry.

""the only place teen girls heads are sucked into , is their own ass! "There is a crack in everything... that's how the light gets in"

Sorry.""

sometimes you take my breath away Ter... er Incognito

**shaazam** · 7th-February-2010

""He felt it was the "modus operandi" of the men to pick up young girls and get them hooked on drugs and alcohol""

even after 40 years of feminitism the guys are stil the most blameworthy patsys ;

maybe this is a derivative of wimyn's no fault copout;

or as one wimyn guest said in a midday bored matrons' program in Australia run by a well known mangina compare - "when wimyn make a mistake of commit offence it is always the fault of a man"

this blurt was received with applause feom the ennui ridden matrons who well knew the truth having been casting blame at their menfolk since kidergarten