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    'My boyfriend does not take pride in paying for dates'


    Guy Refuses to Take Pride in Paying for the Dates

    By Male Call
    MercuryNews.com
    Updated: Feb 25, 2008

    Question: Should the guy pay for the date? I'm struggling with a money issue with a guy I've been dating a few months. We make similar money -- not much, but not minimum wage. We were splitting the bill when we first started dating.

    After we had been dating for a while, I asked if we could treat each other to dates rather than split the bill, because it's nicer. We started doing this, and he does take me out sometimes, but not all the time. Now I'm anxious every time we go out: Is he going to pay? Isn't he?The truth is, I prefer to be taken out by the guy. I know it's antiquated, but it makes me feel wanted, taken care of, special. I don't mind paying for dinner or drinks every second or third time. Most guys seem to take it as a point of pride that they're paying ... this guy he still makes it known at times that we are going Dutch
    doesn't.Even after several months, and my paying every other time for nicer dinners, etc., he still makes it known at times that we are going Dutch or that he's not paying for the entire evening. It brings him down in my esteem ... but I don't know if I'm being overly demanding. Is he a tightwad? Or am I ridiculously old-fashioned? -- S.A., San Jose, California

    Answer: This is an endlessly fascinating topic, since it raises all sorts of questions about fairness, feminism, the shackles inherent in a patriarchal society, mathematics and, perhaps most important in the long run, monetary policy at the Fed.
    Luckily, we won't go anywhere near most of those issues. What do we look like, Mother Jones? No, we prefer to keep things simple, because that's just the way we roll, and also because we have no idea what "the Fed" is, anyway. Does "Fannie Mae" live there with "Freddie Mac"? If so, who pays for dinner at "Trader Vic's"? Never mind. We don't really want to know.

    A tightwad

    First things first, S.A. Yes, the guy is a tightwad.He also must have missed the first day of Guy School 101, where he would have learned that The Guy Always Pays (at least at first).
    We didn't say it's fair; it just is. For some reason, feminism was able to stamp out inequality in many areas, but this one hangs on. Why it remains and, for instance, smoking hot stewardesses have disappeared, is a mystery and, needless to say, a disappointment to us.
    But most guys (though not, apparently, your Mr. McCheapo) will set aside the incongruity and go with tradition. They want to make a good impression, and they know part of that entails paying for those first few Beef Burrito Supremes, even if it means diving into the nether regions of the couch for spare change. (Tip for guys: Unscrew the top of the agitator assembly inside your washer and lift it off. You'll find at least $1.50 in quarters under there, plus maybe that Paris Hilton flash drive you thought you had misplaced.)
    So yes, S.A. -- if indeed that is your real name -- your position is antiquated, and ridiculously old-fashioned. But we mean that in a good way. In your case anyway. Because you at least offer to pay some of the time. Nothing turns a guy off more than a woman who never ever offers to chip in. And, just FYI, the opposite is true as well -- a guy who hears "Honey, tonight is on me ... OK, no, not actually ON me, but I'm paying" is likely to be very appreciative of the gesture. If you know what we mean. If not, ask Freddie Mac.

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    Re: 'My boyfriend does not take pride in paying for dates'

    What sexism! This is hilarious. This guy basically does not 'adhere' to contradictory sexism by supposed "equal independant women."

    "Does not take pride in paying for dates." That's as 'EQUALLY' redundant as exclaiming "she does not take pride in cleaning the house."

    It's merely a continuation of shame tactics to "enforce" a gynocentric outcome!

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    Re: 'My boyfriend does not take pride in paying for dates'

    My question for the woman is, does she take pride in doing nice traditional things for her boyfriend? Does she cook him a nice hot meal or prepare a nice picnic lunch for him the same number of times that she wants him to take her out to eat? Probably not. She probably does nothing but sit around hoping to be pampered. She can thank feminism for the results she's literally eating now. Feminists have taught women to be takers, not givers.
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    Re: 'My boyfriend does not take pride in paying for dates'

    She's an "Equality" feminist, but the man must pay.

    What a bunch of cowshit.

    The bitch starts any of that whine, she belongs back on the curb.

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    Re: 'My boyfriend does not take pride in paying for dates'

    Quote Quote from Tyrael View Post
    For some reason, feminism was able to stamp out inequality in many areas, but this one hangs on. Why it remains and, for instance, smoking hot stewardesses have disappeared, is a mystery...
    A mystery my big-ass! We all know precisely why this one got 'forgotten' about. It's called 'selective equality'. Simple as.
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    Re: 'My boyfriend does not take pride in paying for dates'

    Have we or have we not, as guys, seen through the whole charade of feminist thinking and it's "rules" on sexual "equality" - as they see it? They are not in the very slightest interested in what we would term "true sexual equality", meaning exactly what it implies. Our two quite separate physical anatomies naturally dictate that we are "different" and allowances, of course, will have to me made for this in all sorts of ways, but when it comes down to things such as this issue we are discussing, as well as a whole lot of others which increasingly seem to divide us then it's a whole different kettle of fish. All these have nothing to do with the physical - more to do with the whole doctrine of feminism which to any sane, intelligent person is seen as riddled with blatant tinkering with the truth, suppression of facts, manipulated statistics, double standards, falsehoods and a twisted idea of what they see as the real objective of feminism: the complete control of the male so that the ultimate advantage can be achieved for the female - without responsibility or accountability and privilege and choice and freedom of action with obligation, accountability and responsibility being the dubious "privileges" of males only.

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    Re: 'My boyfriend does not take pride in paying for dates'

    It's hilarious and what a huge amount of ammunition handed over.

    We make similar money
    So, pay your way, as you expect him to. Each time.

    I asked if we could treat each other to dates rather than split the bill, because it's nicer
    'Nicer' ?? Friggin' nicer? To whom? He thinks it is 'nicer' to share. Don't you like 'sharing'?

    Now I'm anxious every time we go out: Is he going to pay? Isn't he?
    And do you think he would be feeling 'anxious' too? Or would you think him a bit strange being 'anxious' about such a matter? There are two of you in exactly the same situation. If this makes you 'anxious' then see a shrink. There is something seriously wrong with you.

    it makes me feel wanted, taken care of, special.
    And you paying would make him feel wanted, taken care of and special too. Or does that not matter to you? He is ensuring that both of you get the same 'special' feeling at the same time. If he paid, he wouldn't have the same 'special' feeling that you get. When you pay, you would miss out on feeling special, taken care of and wanted and probably get friggin' obnoxious.

    I don't mind paying for dinner or drinks every second or third time.
    But paying half every time is just to much for you? Poor widdle thing. Doesn't it make your budget stretch a bit easier?

    Most guys seem to take it as a point of pride that they're paying
    That's how you read it, but it's your fantasy. Is he 'most guys'? Clearly he doesn't feel that 'special' when he has to pay the bill so you can feel 'special'. Pride? Really? Pride comes from achievement. Paying a meal and drinks bill isn't one. You want him to be like 'most guys'. Don't you want to recognise his individuality? You clearly don't recognise pride.

    It brings him down in my esteem
    You have a problem with esteeming others. Ask the shrink about it in the second session. Protect your man from being a 'Jerk', as everyman suddenly becomes when you get your knickers in a twist over trivia.

    Is he a tightwad?
    No more than you. No less. Do you like giving demeaning descriptions of people you date? Is it a compulsion? Session three material. Your shrink is going to have a high opinion of you - if you pay each time.

    Or am I ridiculously old-fashioned
    Just ridiculous. Greed and self centredness, being demanding that others obey your wierd rules or you'll 'blame' them for a 'fault' or three, are bang up to date.
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    Re: 'My boyfriend does not take pride in paying for dates'

    Quote Quote from Ledburian View Post
    Have we or have we not, as guys, seen through the whole charade of feminist thinking and it's "rules" on sexual "equality" - as they see it? They are not in the very slightest interested in what we would term "true sexual equality", meaning exactly what it implies. Our two quite separate physical anatomies naturally dictate that we are "different" and allowances, of course, will have to me made for this in all sorts of ways, but when it comes down to things such as this issue we are discussing, as well as a whole lot of others which increasingly seem to divide us then it's a whole different kettle of fish. All these have nothing to do with the physical - more to do with the whole doctrine of feminism which to any sane, intelligent person is seen as riddled with blatant tinkering with the truth, suppression of facts, manipulated statistics, double standards, falsehoods and a twisted idea of what they see as the real objective of feminism: the complete control of the male so that the ultimate advantage can be achieved for the female - without responsibility or accountability and privilege and choice and freedom of action with obligation, accountability and responsibility being the dubious "privileges" of males only.

    A few years ago when I was single and dating I met this female on-line and arranged a dinner date. After dinner she offered to pay half, but expected me to refuse her contribution. Much to her surprise, I let her know I appreciated her independence and equality. She paid for half. After that she went away and I never saw her again. Goodbye and good riddance to another feminist troll.

    150 years of demanding "equality" they can damn well pay their own way.

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    Re: 'My boyfriend does not take pride in paying for dates'

    I don't understand why people get so hung up on who pays for what. Me and my girlfriend regularly buy each other stuff, from takeaways to games consoles (from her to me :P) to be honest she buys me more stuff than I buy her. If you really like someone what does it matter if they buy you stuff or not? Typical sexist bullshit.



 

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