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    Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

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    Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’
    2008-09-19 at 10:24 am · Filed under blog


    A reader recently sent me an email exchange between a couple of feminist activists concerning the Violence Against Women Act and its critics. Irene Weiser, Executive Director of Stop Family Violence, wrote:
    The FR groups are frothing mad over Biden’s selection as VP candidate and have stepped up their activism – Glenn Sacks and Mike McCormick had an op-ed published in the New York Daily News warning readers about embracing Joe Biden (and by implication, not Obama) Other groups have written action alerts or press releases.
    Male feminist Ben Atherton-Zeman of the National Organization for Men Against Sexism writes:
    My feminist women colleagues have warned me and others to expect more visibility from so-called "Father's Rights" (also called Male Supremacists or the Abuser's Lobby) now that Joe Biden is Obama's VP....
    These groups will pretend to speak for all men - let's not let them be the only voices heard, shall we? It's time for us guys to speak up and say that we support the Violence Against Women Act, and the groups and women this Act funds.
    My article which they're referring to is American dads, think twice before embracing Joe Biden (New York Daily News, 8/27/08). I would love for someone to explain to me where in the article I'm "frothing," being a "male supremacist," or being an advocate for the "Abuser's Lobby."
    Atherton-Zeman says, "It's time for us guys to speak up and say that we support the Violence Against Women Act, and the groups and women this Act funds." I think the only people who could agree with this statement are either ardent feminists like Atherton-Zeman or the (many) men who simply don't know much about VAWA.
    Atherton wrote and performs what he calls an "educational comedy" -- Voices of Men. According to Atherton-Zeman:
    This multi-media play deals with...Sexual assault and consent, Dating violence and domestic violence, and Sexual harassment and objectification. The play uses humor and celebrity male voice impressions to bring these topics to audiences in a way that minimizes male defensiveness.
    Each male character in the play is forced to deal with one of the issues listed above – in doing so, they come to the realization that they are, in fact, both part of the problem and part of the solution. The process each male character goes through has led many boys and men to become involved in both self-reflection and in violence prevention efforts.
    Atherton has several video clips of his play on his site. I actually thought a couple of them had some potential but they were either too short or too heavy-handed to really work. Perhaps the show as a whole is better.

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    Re: Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

    Their newletters were discontinued past 2002, according to their website.
    Of course, no forum or blog for publishing any opinion they might dislike.

    A website of monologue, something like a feminist branch-office?

    Not much activity seen over there...BS-website...ridiculous
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    Re: Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

    I thought men were all supposed to be rapists. Now we are abusers too?!!?

    I guess we are multitalented.
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    Re: Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

    ""These groups will pretend to speak for all men -""

    the implication that only the feminit men speeak for them

    these guys will vote for their mentor and sage Biden

    who despises all men

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    Re: Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

    The laws state that violence is wrong... So, to have VAWA basically suggests that violence is no longer wrong, unless it's against a woman.
    The most offensive thing you can do to a feminist is treat her with FULL equality.
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    Re: Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

    If we were he would be dead. If this were anywhere in the Middle East and this P Whipped Academic self Hating Scum Bag said this he would be hung or summarily executed. IF he hates himself so much and is wasting oxygen, he is welcomed to end his life violently. Sick of these kind of Assholes insulting Men who are standing up for their Rights. Typical Scum Bag that comes out of the progressive Left.

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    Quote Quote from khankrumthebulgar View Post
    If we were he would be dead. If this were anywhere in the Middle East and this P Whipped Academic self Hating Scum Bag said this he would be hung or summarily executed. IF he hates himself so much and is wasting oxygen, he is welcomed to end his life violently. Sick of these kind of Assholes insulting Men who are standing up for their Rights. Typical Scum Bag that comes out of the progressive Left.
    I couldn't have said it better myself.

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    Re: Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

    Denigrating and demeaning is 'abuse'. He is trying to control men's protest at being abused so he is 'controlling'. That's 'abuse' too. Violence, even.

    So he is the violent abuser.

    By his own 'rules' he ought to severely punish himself.
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    Re: Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

    so-called "Father's Rights" (also called Male Supremacists or the Abuser's Lobby
    How many references can these manginas name..

    We must be multitalented..

    At least that's some recognition..

    Those gutless wimps must be desperate that they now indulge in name calling and even recognise the fact that there is actually opposition to their blind, blatant and sycophant abeyance to the male-hating cause, now it's held under the spotlight..

    They must be desperate..

    Fancy having to go through life with that Motherlode..

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    Re: Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

    Lenin referred to those non Bolsheviks that aided and abetted the Bolsheviks cause as "useful idiots"

    Lenin saw that such folk were like turkeys promoting Thanks Giving Day

    feminits see manginas in such a light too and despise them for the turkeys they are

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    Re: Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

    Quote Quote from Percy View Post
    ..........So he is the violent abuser.

    By his own 'rules' he ought to severely punish himself.
    Somehow, considering the company he's catering to, I imagine that quite a bit of what used to be called "self-abuse" is ALL that's available to them.
    Both physical and mental.

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    Re: Male Feminist Calls Us the ‘Abuser’s Lobby’

    Quote Quote from Percy View Post
    Denigrating and demeaning is 'abuse'. He is trying to control men's protest at being abused so he is 'controlling'. That's 'abuse' too. Violence, even.

    So he is the violent abuser.

    By his own 'rules' he ought to severely punish himself.
    But it's against men so it's not violence, but rather "self-defense".
    Fuck it all. Fuck this world. Fuck everything that you stand for. Don't belong. Don't exist. Don't give a shit. Don't ever judge me.

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    I've never abused a single person in my life. Except maybe myself


 

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