Idolising bad boys makes Charlies of us all

**Zuberi** · 21st-February-2011

Idolizing bad boys makes Charlies of us all

When we make Charlie Sheen a role model, both men and women are in trouble

By Barbara Ellen
Idolising bad boys makes Charlies of us all | Barbara Ellen | Comment is free | The Observer

Pity Lindsay Lohan – how bad do things have to get for drug-addled, porn-addicted, wife-beater Charlie Sheen to feel the urge to proffer life advice, in this case to try to "control her impulses" or, as Sheen doubtless put it to the reporter: "Yraggh, ussssh, unk, gimme some crack, GRAARRR!"?

Well, we've all had nights out like that, though for Charlie, this was probably Tuesday morning. He's such a bad boy, isn't he? The baddest! Sexy, isn't it, ladies? He's living the dream, isn't he, guys? If anyone answered "yes" to these questions, please smother yourself with a pillow for the good of humanity now.

It seems to be bad boy season right now – "caddish" Charles Spencer snaring yet another fiancee, Shane Warne upsetting Liz Hurley, Berlusconi… being Berlusconi. However, all of them are drips, amateurs, compared with Charlie.

Sheen ended up in rehab twice recently (drugs, alcohol, porn stars, violence, hospitalisation, all the classics). His top-rating show, Two and a Half Men, was temporarily postponed while he got better.

Better? Sheen resembles a startled gosling that's just crawled out of Charles Bukowski's left nostril or a haunted scarecrow from a Stephen King story. His smile looks like the broken zip from hell. Does this pass for "better" in Hollywood these days?

I thought: "I should feel sympathy for him" (let (s)he who casts the first stone, etc). Despite being a multimillionaire, Sheen is clearly a sick idiot, who views sex and celebrity as an extreme sport. However, I tend to make a point of not feeling sorry for bad boys such as Sheen. And that's because I don't want to indulge and encourage them. It's the equivalent of saying: "Go ahead, bad boy, make another woman's life hell."

I'm not even sure I buy into all the Charlie Sheen myth-making. If he really was that perma-intoxicated, he wouldn't be copulating with porn stars, he'd be urinating all over himself. Some other myths? Bad boys are funny, charming, wild, a rollercoaster ride (sigh!), not like other men.

In Sheen's case, would this be "partying" with a porn star, while his former wife, Denise Richards, slept a few rooms away with his children? (Adorable!) Threatening another wife with a knife. (A keeper!) Or ranting at Richards when her mother was dying from cancer: "Go cry to your bald mother, you fucking loser!" (Hot!)

Sheen comes across as the worst kind of diehard misogynist, modelled from a Mel Gibson Shaker Maker kit. And what happens? He's idolised. Paid millions. Elsewhere, even non-famous bad boys are encouraged to think that they're Marlon Brando in Streetcar, the untamed real deal. All this admiration, not just from other men, but from women, too. One thinks: what is it about these self-hating women that they flatter and indulge these horrors? It is tantamount to gender betrayal.

Someone once told me that, subliminally at least, everything men do, or dream of doing, from climbing mountains to making millions, even to pulling their fingers and comedy farting, is to impress women. Could it be that some men look up to men like Charlie because they think women want men like Charlie? This results in behaviour in the general "Charlie" spectrum, which leads (ta-da!) to a lot of unhappy women and probably children, too.

Is this what women are doing when they simper over bad boys – turning the female talent for self-loathing into an everyday hell for the women who actually end up dealing with them? Those women who are "into bad boys" really should get over it, or at least stop broadcasting it. Remember that men sometimes actually listen to what we say, try to guess what we want, with the tragic outcome that Charlie Sheen syndrome becomes our fault, too.

**nickb275** · 21st-February-2011

OKAYYY!! Yeah, another one out to lunch. A new syndrome boys, The Charlie Sheen Syndrome, a new call to revolt and have us all imprisoned for enjoying TV.

**Zuberi** · 21st-February-2011

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OKAYYY!! Yeah, another one out to lunch. A new syndrome boys, The Charlie Sheen Syndrome, a new call to revolt and have us all imprisoned for enjoying TV.

Yeah, it's only a matter of time before growing a beard makes you a domestic terrorist! It makes one wonder if the degenerate who wrote that article can even see passed her short distorted view of the world.

**Percy** · 21st-February-2011

And your view, Zuberi?

**Zuberi** · 21st-February-2011

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And your view, Zuberi?

My view is that Charlie Sheen and Lindsay Lohan are equally pathetic and shouldn't be role models for anybody. They both can't seem to stay clean. Even Charlie's dad is tired of his shit. No, I do not believe that idolizing bad boys make us all Charlies and it's idiotic to believe it. Charlie Sheen is not a bad boy. He's a drug abusing twit with a large bank account and most men are probably nothing like Charlie Sheen and never will be. The person who wrote that article is a liar and an ignorant fool.

**dad_savage** · 21st-February-2011

Although the article makes rediculous allegations (typical attempt to explain-away all behavior as misogyny) and is poorly written, etc. The key point isn't off the mark. So called 'bad boys,' are some of the worst pussy-beggars out there. The fact that women encourage them is very sad. So many women, as always, refuse utterly to apply morality to their inter-personal habits and desires. This is not good enough.

**Zuberi** · 21st-February-2011

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The key point isn't off the mark. So called 'bad boys,' are some of the worst pussy-beggars out there. The fact that women encourage them is very sad. So many women, as always, refuse utterly to apply morality to their inter-personal habits and desires. This is not good enough.

Exactly!

**nickb275** · 21st-February-2011

Pussy-Beggars, wow, new one to me so I googled it since it wasn't on Wiki, little trick someone gave me. Not much on the subject but this guy is, well I don't have words to describe him. So here is a snapshot of his blog. Not my definition of the Charlie Sheen Syndrome(Bad Boy).

Beggars

Pussy beggars are the bane of my existence.
What is a pussy beggar?
A pussy beggar is simply any man who treats a woman differently than he would normally treat her, in the hope of 'getting into her pants'.
Pussy beggars are almost always extremely frustrated with their sex life. Either they aren't getting good quality sex or they aren't getting enough sex (if they are getting any at all). They simply have no idea when it comes to women.
In an age where sex is common and easy it's to get, it's a real surprise these pussy beggars can't get any. It is as if these guys are trying not to get laid. Watching a pussy beggar at work is a truly pathetic sight.
I will now go through the types of pussy beggars. I do this in the hope that a guy reading this may identify himself as a pussy beggar and alter his behavior.
Types of pussy beggars:
Complimenting Cameron
The complimenting Cameron will take any opportunity to compliment a girl. He will usually be found complimenting a girl on her clothing, makeup or looks (stuff only women truly find the need to compliment).
The truth is, he couldn't care less about these things (nor could any other guy for that matter). All he does is inflate the ego of a girl who has already received her fair share of compliments and who's feelings of self worth are already inflated as it is.
A girl will usually receive this compliment appreciatively. In fact, she will probably enjoy it. However if the guy thinks he will get laid (except on rare occasions) he had better think again. Complimenting like this is usually manipulative. While it may be accepted initially, a girl will eventually resent any attempt to take advantage of this acceptance.
Admonishing Adam
The admonishing Adam is the kind of man who admonishes women for what they perceive to be bad choices by women when it comes to men. They believe that the men women find attractive are usually abusers or generally have something wrong with their personalities.
Now right about now, many guys will be screaming "but Simon, girls do make bad choices with guys."
And you'd probably be right. But consider this. Most guys make bad choices when it comes to women. Both men and women go for what they find attractive. And they don't find the same things attractive.
Think of all the guys you know who got into a relationship with a slut (or any sort of toxic woman) just because she was good looking. What applies to the ladies also applies to the gentlemen.
An Admonishing Adam will let women know that their choices are wrong, and then he'll slip in that he is 'a good man.' A man who is 'worth getting into a relationship with'. This is a particularly slimy and manipulative way to try and get a woman into a relationship with you.
Facebook Fred
This guy is similar to complimenting Cameron. He compliments a girl for the sake of getting female attention and eventually female loving. The only difference is that this guy does it on facebook.
If you see any attractive female friends on facebook posting a picture or being tagged in another person's picture, then you are sure to see facebook Fred ejaculating compliments like there's no tomorrow.
Now these compliments (in the comments section below the picture) are usually met with a 'ThAnkS FreD! xox' by the female who has just been complimented. Fred will see this is a 'come on' by the chick he is trying to bed. However she will usually be cringing while typing it, bitching to her best friend about how much of a loser Fred is.
Facebook is notorious for inflating the egos of women around the world. Even average looking chicks (or those chicks who have a face and body for radio, but who somehow manage to find a camera angle that makes them look presentable) are treated like supermodels.
You should stay away from complimenting pics on facebook.
Conclusion
If you are any of these guys, look at your behavior and make a conscious attempt to change it. The way you are attempting to get laid is almost guaranteeing your celibacy (only mega sluts, deranged girls or hookers will give you a chance, and they come at a health, psychological or financial cost).
Regards.
-Simon

**dad_savage** · 21st-February-2011

So called thugs and bad boys are just better at pussy-begging than are standard pussy-beggars, and in much ways worse. A pussy beggar will compromise his ideals, and beliefs to get with a girl. A thug compromises his very life and freedom. Bad boys and thugs choose to be the way they are because it courts female attention, but it only courts the attention of younger women who do not feel a deep need yet for stability and security. They end up having no impact on their own children, or they end up in jail, they end up dead. Then the woman will shack up with some guy who used to be a pussy beggar to bankroll her early retirement and pay for bad-boys kids while bad-boy is having his ass packed in the shower block, is in rehab, or is point-blank dead. Pussy beggars who spend most of their life trying, but failing, to have sex become much more desirable around 35 years of age. Women realize that man has been working a decent job rather than being a fool and running scams or selling drugs for fifteen years, and they want to get their claws on the equity he's built up through good credit, responsibility, mortgage payments, etc. If the used up former skank is too diseased and ugly to even net herself a self-loathing white knight pussy beggar she'll turn to the ultimate Mangina on earth - the Government itself - and it supports her. By taxing men. So no matter what men do they're paying for women.

Unless they follow the very sage of advice of those few clever chaps who truly appreciate the nature of the statist con, and go their own way.

**Percy** · 21st-February-2011

Charlie is a Charlie.

He is not a chap to emulate.

Too much money coupled with too much licence.

**nickb275** · 21st-February-2011

Viscous cycle, Bad Boys and pussy beggars, you and me, were once innocent boys(many feminists will say we are born evil). What led us astray, our mums, dads, society, Charlie Sheen?
I guess you could say I was/am a Charlie Sheen/bad boy. I have watched the show Two and a half men. Interesting story line in the whole. A nevrotic brother, who's ex wife left him for a lesbian, takes him for all the money he has so he stays at Bad boys house. A egotistical mother who cares not much about them and spends most of her time sipping martini's and hurling pompous abuse. An absent father, never really mentioned (a pink elephant in the show). And a not so smart fat kid caught in the middle.
Sounds like your average family to me by today's standards.
I think Charlie Sheen was a great casting for this type of comedy show, as is the neurotic brother. We should not kill the messenger in this show that all to well recounts the reality in America and addresses divorce, single parenting and the issues related to it, alcoholism, depression and many others effects of society today in a half hour episode of clean comedy. Only huge absence in this story line is the poverty that usually stems from such a viscous cycle. Hollywood.

**Ambiorix** · 21st-February-2011

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If the used up former skank is too diseased and ugly to even net herself a self-loathing white knight pussy beggar she'll turn to the ultimate Mangina on earth - the Government itself - and it supports her. By taxing men. So no matter what men do they're paying for women.

Unless they follow the very sage of advice of those few clever chaps who truly appreciate the nature of the statist con, and go their own way.

Does "go their own way" also include tax evasion?

**dad_savage** · 21st-February-2011

Does "go their own way" also include tax evasion?

I'm interested to know, in light of the sheer lack of any transperancy, accountability and ethic in the Government's use of tax dollars (obtained arbitrarily and under threat of force) whether you'd consider it a good, or bad thing, to do this? Considering that in the English speaking West (at least) the right to oppose tyranny is enshrined at the highest level.

PARASITES in power example.

Although, before I'm accused of anything, I'll note that I'm citing an earlier post of mine which loosely explains (in perfectly legal terms) how to starve this perverse system of revenue.

**Zuberi** · 21st-February-2011

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A egotistical mother who cares not much about them and spends most of her time sipping martini's and hurling pompous abuse.

It's funny because that sounds like almost every no talent hack you see barking and squealing on reality TV.

Hey, these clowns are a good example!

YouTube - The Bad Girls Club Season 5 Reunion Fight - Lea and Erica vs. Kristen, Catya, and Christina

**conaill** · 21st-February-2011

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Does "go their own way" also include tax evasion?

Tax avoidence is legal and tax evasion is the illegal one,speaking for myself i choose not to pay them anything,feck them and the horse they rode in on.