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Hilarious Pro-feminist Male Relying on Standard Feminist Shaming Tactics

This is a discussion on Hilarious Pro-feminist Male Relying on Standard Feminist Shaming Tactics within the Feminist/ Misandry anti misandry forums, part of the Why We're Here category; Yesterday, just before I left for work, I received this hilarious email. -------------------------------- EXCERPT OF THE WEEK | The Guys ...

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    Yesterday, just before I left for work, I received this hilarious email.

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    EXCERPT OF THE WEEK | The Guys Guide To Feminism

    "Feminists don’t want to be men. They don’t want to replace men. They don’t hate men. They just want women to be treated equally in as many ways as we possibly can be. It’s really that simple."

    Men of quality aren't afraid of women's equality

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    ‎"Feminists don’t want to be men. They don’t want to replace men. They don’t hate men. They just want women to be treated equally in as many ways as we possibly can be. It’s really that simple."

    And just remember this boys, MEN of QUALITY are not afraid of WOMEN'S EQUALITY
    (note the additional attempt at shaming by referring to male members of this board as 'boys' instead of adults)



    So I thought I'd spent half an hour going over his url and giving a bit of a reality check for this poor emasculated chap.

    Remembering this person claimed that women don't want to replace men and only be treated as equals while accounting that back when college & university students were male it was feminists who demanded changes to the academic system to encourage more women into further education.
    Demography News Flash (2012):
    In our colleges and universities, well over 50 percent of students are women. They’re the majority of medical students, law students, and business students.
    So we're left with the question, if feminism is about 'equality' then why do they only demand changes that benefit women but once women are dominating in any area, they suddenly go silent - as if they just don't care about men falling behind? I've seen on many feminist resources over the years feminists defending this double-standard with such claims as 'boys simply don't care about education' or even 'girls are simply better'. Now, where's this equality thing gone?

    The blog page then goes on to credit feminism for giving women education, feminism for the pill and feminism for just about everything possible. Apparently, the class "women's studies" is only about promoting women's involvement in history. That seems a little suspect as I was taught about various female figures in my normal history class from my first-school all the way up to my high-school. So at the least, "women's studies" seems to be asking for more credit than men. Personally, my experience with "women's studies" students suggests the class is more about indoctrinating students with claims of a mass-conspiracy where all men hold all women down and promotes women to be aggressive and hold grudges towards men as a class.

    Do you believe that women should have the right to:

    • Vote?
    • Go to college?
    • Drive a car?
    • Open bank accounts in their own names?
    • Enjoy sex?
    • Work in whatever occupation they might choose, and get paid the same as men when they do the same work?

    Did you answer yes?

    Then you better lie down. . . . You’ve probably caught feminism.
    The feminist contagion has spread far and wide. It infects both women and men. Most people in North America, Europe and many parts of the rest of the world have caught it. The terrible truth is that, nowadays, most of us support these rights and actually see them as basic rights of individuals in a democracy.
    Now if ever there was a case of fraudulent propaganda, this might just be it.

    Note how the author tries to imply that feminism was responsible for women having the right to vote. Not accurate. In fact, it was women's-libbers & suffragettes who fought for women's right to vote, not feminists.

    A deeper look into history shows us that not only did the above groups push for women to have the vote, they also tried to stop men having the vote. It wasn't just a push for their sex to vote, they actively fought against men having the right to vote.

    Pop-quiz question: "Why do pro-feminists systematically 'forget' to discuss this part of history when they talk about the vote?"

    Keeping on the topic of the vote, the author mentions going to college... Just prior to this reference, it is openly acknowledged that women could go to college before the feminist movement took hold in the 60s.

    Equally, to my knowledge (and I'm happy to be corrected) but women were never officially denied any right to drive - at least not in Western countries.

    One thing I do want to draw attention to, that I'm sure many of you already know, is that for a man to obtain a driver's license, obtain a college loan, take certain career paths or issue his vote for his preferred political candidate; he must agree to sign up to be drafted. If he doesn't - he faces financial charges as well as a prison sentence.

    The same conditions are not enforced against women at any level. The claim by feminists and their sympathizers is that they promote equality for women and men. Amazingly enough, no feminist I know of either at a personal level nor online, has yet managed to make any effort to draw attention to this incredible disparity that blatantly affects men negatively. Not even one.

    I can't speak for the bank-loan side of things as I don't have enough information to hand to form an educated opinion either way. However, what I can say is that for the vast majority of feminist-inspired claims I come across, they most commonly aren't quite as the feminists portray them to be.

    To illustrate my point, just look at how feminists portray FGM and compare it against Western standards of circumcision. Look at how feminist politician, Harriet Harman, likes to compare part-time female employees against full-time male employees in order to skew the figures and misrepresent the mythical 'wage gap'. They have to compare apples with oranges to make their case.

    Given the repetitive nature of feminist deception, I wouldn't be surprised to find there's something considerably important left-out of their claims regarding women not having a bank-loan without the husband's signature. Perhaps, it had something to do with the fact that most women opted not to gain paid employment, so the money loaned out would have to be paid back by the husband. In which case, it makes perfect sense that if I choose to be unemployed and want a loan, the bank will need the payee to sign for his or her agreement to pay back on my behalf.

    Of course, feminists being as they are, we can't expect them to talk honestly about the bank-loan signature being required... They choose to intentionally with-hold massively important factors in order to skew the picture to portray men as oppressors and women as eternal victims of 'teh patriarchy'.

    As I said, I don't enough to say anything for certain on this subject... the above is merely speculation on my part.

    Now, let's see about feminism being responsible for women enjoying sex...

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ID:	1837That's all I have to say about that. Women have been enjoying sex since the dawn of time. Feminism had nothing to do with biology.

    However, I do acknowledge feminism did open certain jobs to women that previously they were steered away from. Unsurprisingly, feminists have done nothing to promote jobs for men that they are traditionally steered away from. In fact, they have done the complete opposite by promoting hate campaigns against men as sexually deprived beasts who will rape & molest any women or children within reach. This ensured that men were not and remain to this day unwelcome in female-dominated careers, such as child-care.

    Moving on to the 'same pay for the same work', well that simply isn't quite how feminists portray it. By measuring only the medium averages of all workers, it clearly excludes like-for-like jobs. It also ignores work hours, of which men typically work some 6+ hours more (excludes additional work in the home by men) than women per week. Further, women take more holidays than men as well as more sick time from work.

    But then they’ll have the nerve to point out that even the United States has never ratified the United Nation’s Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women; they’ll tell you that Congress turned down an amendment to prohibit discrimination against women.
    And it comes as no shock that they don't even ask why the UN doesn't have a similar policy for men - at all. Nor will they ask why so much money is afforded women's groups while only pennies are put aside for men's groups. The same is found in all walks of life, such as health funding, awareness campaigns, health & safety, sexual & reproductive rights, etc. etc.
    In short, feminists are, as proven by their own action & inaction, not about equality - but rather selective equality at best.

    The empirical observation is that, in our society, women and men are still not equal. (Beware: if you find yourself noticing men form the big majority of those who run local, state and federal governments, major corporations, colleges and universities, religious institutions, and media conglomerates.
    Again, feminists look only to the top and ignore the bottom. Men are found in all the lowest areas too, such as homelessness, health, suicide rates, etc.
    Sadly, feminists only point to the top end in order to misrepresent the world we live in. If they had an ounce of honesty about them, they would look at the full picture and use that to gauge the needs of the many. Instead, they hack off a third of the image (showing men at the bottom) and present their mutilated picture as a realistic picture of the world in which we live.

    You start thinking that in our personal relationships women deserve to have total respect and dignity!
    As predictable, men don't get a mention where respect and dignity is spoken... aside from giving it to women. It should be clear by now that feminism is not about equality, but rather demanding that men treat women a certain way while women's ill-behaviours towards men continue to be ignored, and thus, condoned by the feminist community.

    That they should be a partner in all decision-making!
    Does this go for men too, I wonder? In today's world - women make the majority of decisions in a home. Which school the children go to, what car the family buy, what products & foods are purchased, will the father of a child be allowed any level of a relationship to their child, and many more areas.
    Given that feminism claims to support equality... we have to keep asking, why are feminists so silent on areas of inequality that detrimentally affect men?

    * Watch out if you buy a T-shirt with a slogan like: “A Man of Quality Isn’t Threatened by Women’s Equality.”

    * Run for the hills if you wear a T-shirt that reads: Real Men Support Feminism.
    Can women also buy a shirt, stating alike to: "A Woman of Quality Isn't Threatened by Men's Equality"? Somehow, I'm guessing that concept causes a tear in your eye and a sinking feeling in your gut.
    Why might it do that? Because, as a feminist, like most feminists, you are a sexist - and promoting equality of men to women only causes upset for you - because you're a sexist.
    Note also the reliance again on shaming tactics employed. Now feminists think they have the right to determine what makes a 'real man'.
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    Wife : "Those they gave away."
    Husband : "I had a dream too...I dreamt they were auctioning off pussy. The pretty ones went for a thousand dollars, and the little tight ones went for two thousand."
    Wife : "And how much for the ones like mine?"
    Husband : "That's where they held the auction."

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    I'd like to comment on this part:
    Do you believe that women should have the right to:

    • - Vote?
    • - Go to college?
    • - Drive a car?
    • - Open bank accounts in their own names?
    • - Enjoy sex?
    • - Work in whatever occupation they might choose, and get paid the same as men when they do the same work?
    Did you answer yes?

    Then you better lie down. . . . You’ve probably caught
    feminism
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    The
    feminist
    contagion has spread far and wide. It infects both women
    and
    men. Most people in North America, Europe and many parts of the rest of the world have caught it. The terrible truth is that, nowadays, most of us support these rights and actually see them as basic rights of individuals in a democracy.

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    First, in America, driving is a privilege, not a right - it says so in the driving pamphlet.

    Having a car, attending college, and opening a bank account all require money before one is even allowed to use them.

    Money comes from a job, and let's face it - not every one is good at comforting a child or realigning a car frame.

    Isn't sex supposed to be enjoyable? I don't know anyone who equates sex with drinking car oil.

    Voting in general is to broad of a topic. Without specificity, one could be arguing that men should vote on which tampon is the most comfortable.

    Feminism - the act of making Fidel Castro look like a nice man.
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    Its a shame men are no longer allowed to enjoy sex..

    One thing that feminists seem to do is make sex a chore and fearful thing for men, its all about what the lady wants, or its jail for the man..

    The vote thing is interesting..

    The state wanted to give women the vote.. The suffragettes actually delayed it by acting in a manner that made folks wonder if women were really SUITED to have this..

    The reasons for giving women the vote (along with low status males) was in order to justify their new taxation plans etc..

    The suffragettes, actually only wanted the vote for MIDDLE CLASS females, not EVERY female..

    The state granted it to all females..

    And, the suffragetes didnt give women the vote.. The state did (that most patriarchal of institutions).. Later than it would have given it if the suffragettes had not delayed it by creating a public reaction against the idea..

    Women had been able to vote in local council elections for many decades, maybe even centuries (I am trying to remember the chapter on the votes for women myth in Steve Moxons "the woman racket" where he goes into historic detail..)..

    One thing I often wonder about, is the current campaigns for equal parenting by the fathers groups..

    It could paradoxically be the case that some of the activities and media resulting from many of their actions can easily be seen to be potentially delaying the states implentation of "equal parenting"..

    Because, logically, it has been noted by several intelligent and insightful MRA's and fathers activists, (there are at least a handful of them!) the state would benefit hugely from imposing such arrangements upon broken families.. (No prizes for guessing which sex would probably end up paying 3 times over for something of dubious long term value to them..)..
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    They are so willing to respect other men but the man they make love to and is the father of their children –no way. They try to control him, criticize him,,, " Courtney www.womenlivingwell.org

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    I can't speak for the bank-loan side of things as I don't have enough information to hand to form an educated opinion either way. However, what I can say is that for the vast majority of feminist-inspired claims I come across, they most commonly aren't quite as the feminists portray them to be.
    I can only speak with confidence of the situation in the UK, though I have some international viewpoint, too. I welcome any additions or corrections to my knowledge.

    A century ago, consumer credit was not widespread. Individuals might be allowed credit by local shops who knew them but this would typically be reserved for those known to have property, or to have some other restriction on them (e.g. tailors might let a forces officer have a uniform on credit).

    The concept of lending money for personal use to all and sundry was not practical, nor legal, until the 1950s/60s. In the UK, the Hire Purchase Act 1964 enabled and regulated consumer loans for the purchase of goods; the Consumer Credit Act 1974 formed the basis for what we know today as a common practice where almost everyone lives in debt, even without a mortgage.

    Prior to sexual equality laws brought out in the 1960s, businesses could and did discriminate on sex alone. It was perfectly legal to have policies that denied men entry to spas, or to deny women consumer loans, based just on their sex. Since most women relied on men for their income, some banks had blanket bans on lending to them. Indeed, in some countries even as late as the 1980s, a married woman could get into debt and it would be her husband who was legally responsible for paying that debt. Under the circumstances, it might not seem so unreasonable that a bank would insist on transacting a loan only with the man in the first place. I understand that in at least one country (Australia), banks could not force women to repay a bank loan, they could only force her husband. This leads to the modern feminist complaint that banks refused to supply loans to single women.

    So there is a basis in most countries to say that women (as well as men) could not get loans at some point in history. There is even a basis of fact in some countries for saying that men could get a loan when women could not. Most of the time, this was during a period when men and women had differing roles in society and women were held even less responsible for their actions than they are today.
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    So my guess-work wasn't too far out?

    Surprise, surprise.. I only took an 'educated guess' at what the situation may have been. Accounting that I was relying on feminists historical use of marginalizing male accountability, I presumed that there would be a fairly solid reason why women couldn't get bank loans - and my rough idea turns out to be roughly in line.
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    Wife : "Those they gave away."
    Husband : "I had a dream too...I dreamt they were auctioning off pussy. The pretty ones went for a thousand dollars, and the little tight ones went for two thousand."
    Wife : "And how much for the ones like mine?"
    Husband : "That's where they held the auction."

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    I do acknowledge feminism did open certain jobs to women that previously they were steered away from.
    Interesting. I realise you don't say that feminism helped women gain rights to work in certain jobs, as is so often falsely claimed, but I do wonder in what way "feminism did open certain jobs to women."

    The Women's Liberation Movement gained the equal pay and equal opportunities laws and I'd have thought that the credit belongs with those women's libbers for opening the job market to women. I'm not sure just how much difference they made (as a child in the 60s, I can remember a female delivering sacks of coal [and she was a small, skinny woman, too]), and even less how much positive difference for society, but in making it illegal to restrict a job on the basis of sex, they opened jobs for women. I'm not convinced feminists did.
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    Douglas, if you'd be willing to spend some time researching further & writing on this topic of feminism vs women's libbers, I'd happily make it a full article...
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    Wife : "Those they gave away."
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    Wife : "And how much for the ones like mine?"
    Husband : "That's where they held the auction."

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    Do you believe that feminism is responsible for women having the right to:

    • Vote?
    • Go to college?
    • Drive a car?
    • Open bank accounts in their own names?
    • Enjoy sex?
    • Work in whatever occupation they might choose, and get paid the same as men when they do the same work?

    Did you answer yes?
    Then you better lie down. . . . You’ve probably caught feminism.

    Truly, you need to be healed. You have a bad case of misinformation. Educating yourself will help you to realise that feminism didn't help, hasn't helped, can't help.
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    The whole scam is about getting the max number of folks on that hamster wheel that enables the statists and elites to harvest the labour potential of the human sheeple and workhorses..

    All it seems to have done from what I have seen, is reduce mens incentives to work to make a living, and get women working instead.. Mind you, women get much more from the deal than men do.. Less work, more pay and handouts..

    And still they moan that they don't have it how they want it..
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