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    "Co-dependence is produced by shame-based patriarchal families..."

    I was just scanning internet sites looking for supplemental information on co-dependency to share with a client who is struggling with this issue. (Her co-dependency issues led to a dysfunctional intimate relationship which led to stress which led to a recent drug-related relapse.) I came across this website:

    Roles In Dysfunctional Families-column by codependence counselor

    One of the first ideas encountered on the page is that (and it appears this is written by a co-dependency counselor) is that "dysfunctional families are the product of an emotionally dishonest, shame based, patriarchal society based upon beliefs that do not support Loving self or Loving neighbor." - Robert Burney

    I've observed that people can be raised in families without fathers and have serious co-dependency issues in adulthood. Now maybe I'm off base here about what is this author trying to say?

    At any rate, I will not be giving this information to my client.

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    Re: "Co-dependence is produced by shame-based patriarchal families..."

    I have no idea. I wouldn't send anyone to get help from him though. He seems like the type of counselor who makes his clients feel like victims, instead of teach them to grow over their issues.

    I said before on this board that I've seen a psychiatrist. Well, if he was like this guy, I wouldn't have got anywhere and I wouldn't have learned anything about how my psyche works or how to fix my issues.

    I read that page and it sounds like he is the typical liberal bashing traditional culture - who by the way, is the reason why the West was so successful to this point and those traditions being destroyed are the reasons for it's decline now. I live in a country pretty much unaffected by these issues yet, even though the culture is exhibiting signs of starting to adopt the current Western crappy ideologies, even though there's a push against it. That page sounds like him expressing his beliefs about the thing that gave him the opportunity to not work in a crowded sweatshop.

    And the thing about men not being allowed to cry or women to be angry and that's why relationships are dysfunctional is a lot of poop. I know only a few dysfunctional families and I live in a country not affected by moronic liberalism - maybe this is the reason! And women are allowed to be angry or aggressive(nobody told me to stfu anyway) and men can cry. Obviously you must have a reason.

    The problem for the dysfunctional society as a whole of the way of life is the unimpeded gratification of impulses and whims at the expense of goodness, virtue, truth and beauty.

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    Re: "Co-dependence is produced by shame-based patriarchal families..."

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    I have no idea. I wouldn't send anyone to get help from him though. He seems like the type of counselor who makes his clients feel like victims, instead of teach them to grow over their issues.

    I said before on this board that I've seen a psychiatrist. Well, if he was like this guy, I wouldn't have got anywhere and I wouldn't have learned anything about how my psyche works or how to fix my issues.

    I read that page and it sounds like he is the typical liberal bashing traditional culture - who by the way, is the reason why the West was so successful to this point and those traditions being destroyed are the reasons for it's decline now. I live in a country pretty much unaffected by these issues yet, even though the culture is exhibiting signs of starting to adopt the current Western crappy ideologies, even though there's a push against it. That page sounds like him expressing his beliefs about the thing that gave him the opportunity to not work in a crowded sweatshop.

    And the thing about men not being allowed to cry or women to be angry and that's why relationships are dysfunctional is a lot of poop. I know only a few dysfunctional families and I live in a country not affected by moronic liberalism - maybe this is the reason! And women are allowed to be angry or aggressive(nobody told me to stfu anyway) and men can cry. Obviously you must have a reason.

    The problem for the dysfunctional society as a whole of the way of life is the unimpeded gratification of impulses and whims at the expense of goodness, virtue, truth and beauty.
    cuz in your country it takes a family of five to rustle up some corn meal, cabbage, charcoal, lighter fluid and a chicken; a whole day
    lets face it RV, you live in the third world, where families and communities can either stick together or become animal food

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    Re: "Co-dependence is produced by shame-based patriarchal families..."

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    cuz in your country it takes a family of five to rustle up some corn meal, cabbage, charcoal, lighter fluid and a chicken; a whole day
    lets face it RV, you live in the third world, where families and communities can either stick together or become animal food
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    Re: "Co-dependence is produced by shame-based patriarchal families..."

    Aug9th, Romania has a TFR of 1.37, which is abysmal even by European standards and we have to thank the government for making us maintain our parents that are retired and not afford children of our own. And in a few years, you will live in the third world too.

    Another thing, we're not really born with a personality. The personality is formed during childhood and teenage. It's just that the liberal parasite on the culture is inevitable creating dysfunctional people and since we can't say that the sexual revolution, feminism, multiculturalism and so on are garbage ideologies that need to be taken out of our lives, we rationalize it like this.

    By the way, his theory of predicting my behavior isn't matching the childhood I had. Which is what I expected.

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    Re: "Co-dependence is produced by shame-based patriarchal families..."

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    Aug9th, Romania has a TFR of 1.37, which is abysmal even by European standards and we have to thank the government for making us maintain our parents that are retired and not afford children of our own. And in a few years, you will live in the third world too.

    Another thing, we're not really born with a personality. The personality is formed during childhood and teenage. It's just that the liberal parasite on the culture is inevitable creating dysfunctional people and since we can't say that the sexual revolution, feminism, multiculturalism and so on are garbage ideologies that need to be taken out of our lives, we rationalize it like this.

    By the way, his theory of predicting my behavior isn't matching the childhood I had. Which is what I expected.
    I didnt intend to knock or insult you
    but like me, I grew up mostly in the oak cliff section of dallas
    which is home to many poor, crime infested and drug ridden neighborhoods
    sometimes we had to stick with our families, our neighbors, etc, even when we didnt like thier bitch asses
    same as in your homeland
    It wouldnt suprise me if you told me that you lived serveral years without electricity or running water or that you ate once a day for about 6 years

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    Re: "Co-dependence is produced by shame-based patriarchal families..."

    "dysfunctional families are the product of an emotionally dishonest, shame based, patriarchal society based upon beliefs that do not support Loving self or Loving neighbor." - Robert Burney
    Far too many 'counsellors' are agitpropped to oblivion at college and via their Professional Associations. There is a 'Party line' that must be adhered to if one is to 'get on'. That Party Line is Feminism and PC based and has little to do with empirical evidence.
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    Re: "Co-dependence is produced by shame-based patriarchal families..."

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    Far too many 'counsellors' are agitpropped to oblivion at college and via their Professional Associations. There is a 'Party line' that must be adhered to if one is to 'get on'. That Party Line is Feminism and PC based and has little to do with empirical evidence.
    Have you ever wondered how a feminist christmas story would turn out?

    They'd probably call the cops on santa for breaking and entering and he'd be in longer for animal cruelty. They'd probably accuse him of being a pedophile because kids sit on his lap as well.
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