It is nothing more than the old, selfish routine of "it's me and me second and me forever" feminist claptrap. Men just have to put up with it, or, fight back and risk being crucified in the family courts.

NEVO

She got all in a tizz on the AVfM site trying to justify her bigotry to Paul Elam. She got a warm reception.

I nabbed this story last night from Paul Elam and reposted it on my FB page. I didn't leave the bigoted heifer a response though because of the briliant responses from the other MRA's that got there before I did.

The funniest part to me is that through the whole thing she thought that people A] wanted her to change her mind on who should wipe her kids ass and B] That the men where all being perverts.

It never crossed her tiny mind that people were objecting to her unrepentant sexism and narcisism.

She has taken the page down guys.

It's a small success in that now her hateful bigotry isn't being spread across the web - thankfully though, she can't deny it very well as many MRA's have taken snapshots and copy/pasted much of the text.

It obviously won't change her mind - but she may at least think twice about publicising her bigoted views.

Good that it got taken down. I didn't get a chance to read it. Was the school letting random parents take kids to the bathroom, or was it an employee? That makes a difference, I think. I'd be more comfortable with an employee taking my kid to the bathroom, than a random parent. Doesn't matter male or female, adult or child.

On a related note, I just started volunteering to watch the little kids at church while their parents attend services. In the orientation, they told us that only women could change diapers and escort little ones to the bathroom (older ones don't need the help, obviously). It occurred to me, though, that it protects the men just as much as the children. Yes, it's sexist, and it's wrong. But all it takes is one accusation and a reputation is ruined. And that's just if you're lucky.

Guys - Guys - Guys!



I just Googled the name "Jenna Myers Karvunidis" - and the TOP link is 'linkedin' (like a 'professional facebook' where people can link to other professionals) - but that aside, the NEXT TOP LINK for her name is...

Go on...




Go on....





Yes - antimisandry.com has the top (next to linkedin) link for her name!


Closely followed by google.com....


And ONLY after our websites does her blog come up under her name!



The power of SEO!!!!

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Good that it got taken down. I didn't get a chance to read it. Was the school letting random parents take kids to the bathroom, or was it an employee? That makes a difference, I think. I'd be more comfortable with an employee taking my kid to the bathroom, than a random parent. Doesn't matter male or female, adult or child.

On a related note, I just started volunteering to watch the little kids at church while their parents attend services. In the orientation, they told us that only women could change diapers and escort little ones to the bathroom (older ones don't need the help, obviously). It occurred to me, though, that it protects the men just as much as the children. Yes, it's sexist, and it's wrong. But all it takes is one accusation and a reputation is ruined. And that's just if you're lucky.

Where I work, they only allow women with kids to borrow the employee bathrooms (women's). One of the last times we did this, a female employee got into an argument with a customer over the fact that she [customer] brought her son into the bathroom. I had to show them where our employee bathrooms are; and as soon the mom brought her kid into the women's bathroom, he didn't want to go in, and she had to get him to go in.

This kid was old enough to use the bathroom without assistance. I'd say he was at least 6-7 years old.

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She has taken the page down guys.

It's a small success in that now her hateful bigotry isn't being spread across the web - thankfully though, she can't deny it very well as many MRA's have taken snapshots and copy/pasted much of the text.

It obviously won't change her mind - but she may at least think twice about publicising her bigoted views.

I believe AVfM kept a copy of her post at the bottom of the article written in response to her hateful blog entry as there were a lot of replies to her bigoted statements. So, she can run but she cannot hide her previous comments.

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Good that it got taken down. I didn't get a chance to read it. Was the school letting random parents take kids to the bathroom, or was it an employee? That makes a difference, I think. I'd be more comfortable with an employee taking my kid to the bathroom, than a random parent. Doesn't matter male or female, adult or child.

It was parents who volunteered to help at the school. Karvundis was quite happy for random parents to assist her daughter as long as they were female yet she had no problem with random mothers assisting boys.

Well this woman certainly did get put in her place--she is claiming to be fearful of her life,she is also claiming she had no idea there was a mrm,she also claims that she would fight for all gender equality....then i read another of her little rants where she calls us all misogynist's.

She is a liar,pure plain and simple.

Ya gotta love the register-her site and the power it can unleash on someone.

I am very sorry that her page has been taken down, as I wanted to leave a comment.

It was parents who volunteered to help at the school. Karvundis was quite happy for random parents to assist her daughter as long as they were female yet she had no problem with random mothers assisting boys.

I wouldn't feel comfortable handing my child over to some random parent. Some people can be total weirdos, and some parents (either gender) do fall under that category. I'd be fine trusting another parent if I knew them well enough.

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I wouldn't feel comfortable handing my child over to some random parent. Some people can be total weirdos, and some parents (either gender) do fall under that category. I'd be fine trusting another parent if I knew them well enough.

Perhaps I'm viewing this from a local standpoint; if you work with children you need a blue card in Australia, whether you are paid or a volunteer it doesn't matter. You are vetted by the Police and if you fail, no blue card and no child work at all. With that in mind, to catagorise 99% of men as paedophiles and overlook the the actual stats for which gender abuses children in their care the most, is reprehensible. She made accusations against 99% of men, she added her preferences as to her own child's care as being justified by her bigotry.

I see Karvunidis' comments in a completely different context than I see yours - your concern is whether you know the parent well and that is perfectly understandable. You made your wishes known without demonising 99% of men.

Hi guys, your favorite person Jenna here! I'll wait for the applause.

I sent a similar message to Paul Elam and another member at another website and I'd like to address your community here.

Please help me to make this right with MRA. My original post was misguided. Worse was my initial reaction to harsh criticism. I just jumped with my gut instinct to fight fire with fire. Out of the blue my mom blog was pounded with stern comments pouring in so fast the server couldn't keep up. I freaked out in real time because I felt ambushed. It was a mistake I regret.

I was unaware the people calling me a bigot had a broader message. I have since learned so much about MRA, a world view I had honestly never considered. To think I was perpetuating hate against a group sickens me. I am so sorry.

I do still prefer gender-assigned bathrooms, which includes children, but if anything just for personal privacy like adults are afforded every day. Some may argue public places should have non-specified gender bathrooms but have you guys smelled the mens room? Kidding! But seriously, many people are not ready for that. (Family bathrooms are of course nice!)

Please try to be in my shoes. This is my first baby, the volunteer dad in class the day I had to drop her off (the day my blog post was about) was a COMPLETE stranger to me. I couldn't even see his face. I had met all the moms and teachers before the school year started, but not all the dads. Not him.

For the record, I NEVER suggested removing the dads from class. I never addressed who should take the boys to the potty simply because I don't have a son and the only child I had an opinion about was my own. I don't get into other peoples' business like that. When I blogged about my experience it was just that - my experience, just like I blog about apple pies I make and crafts my kids do. Who cares but me? (Btw, I have removed all images of my children from my blog and any posts about my family life. It's sad, but the truth is I was absolutely WAY too trusting of the world before this debacle. Ironic, huh?)

The reason the school made a policy change was because no protocol had ever been in place. They told me upfront they would not and could not make a rule about which gender could take which child to the bathroom. I did not ask them to do that , but they did mention it anyway. Nearly every preschool has some kind of procedure in the bathroom with kids - sometimes it's a rule of threes, or that the caregiver must be visible from the classroom etc. This is all the school is doing. Just aligning themselves with similar institutions. I think they have done an excellent job of being fair.

Please allow me to make this right. I am more than willing to write a sincere apology on my blog, highlight the MRA movement, post different stats and even make a donation to the cause.

Please know with all sincerity I never meant to harm anyone.

Jenna

OOps, I didn't realize this posted since I got an error message. Moderator, you can just delete the repeat, sorry for the double post.