Thread: All men are responsible for stopping male violence against women

The following site is read by a lot of people and well worth placing comments about the mysandrist article.

You might be advised to add links to any appropriate information . facts. ie. www.fathersforlife.org contains much evidence which counteracts the feminist propaganda as does the home office report R86.

Also Tim Loughtons statement regarding feminist propaganda may be worth quoting.

http://www.publications.parliament.u...0302-18_spnew5

Tim Loughton: Let me finish and I certainly will.

In support of its claim, the NSPCC cites the fact that 29 children were killed over the past 10 years during contact visits to non-resident parents. That is an appalling figure. However, it ignores its own research, which shows that over the same period some 800 children have died at the hands of resident parents or carers, and the 2000 publication "Child Maltreatment in the UK", which showed that violent treatment was more likely to be meted out by female carers than male ones.

The briefing is alarmist, sensationalist, misleading, empirically flawed, completely irresponsible and highly reprehensible. It is not worthy of an organisation such as the NSPCC, which claims to stand up for our children. I hope that our deliberations on the amendments will be based on balanced, rational and well-informed debate, rather than the arrant nonsense that I am sure will shock many dedicated and hard-working NSPCC supporters around the country.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/12/357875.html

All men are responsible for stopping male violence against women

Utopia Bold | 07.12.2006 05:18 | Gender | Social Struggles | World
All men, both violent and non violent are responsible for stopping
male violence against women because globally, men as a group hold more
power than women.

All men are responsible for stopping male violence against women
by Utopia Bold

Men may feel unease when male violence against women is addressed
including non-violent men. However, all men, both violent and
non-violent, must be held responsible for stopping male violence
against women.
Violent men must stop assaulting women. Non-violent men must not sit
by and allow male violence against women to continue. Their
inaction-or indifference- is passive male violence against women.
Breaking the silence by naming an atrocity is the first step in ending
it. Male violence against women must be named specifically.
To maintain patriarchy, "Women's agony at the hands of men must never
be revealed. If women steadfastly and courageously began to tell the
truth and would not stop, would not be co-opted, would not become
afraid, the truth of our enslavement would be undeniable and the jig
would be up" —from "Telling the Truth" by Sonia Johnson.
Women, who outnumber men, are the single largest group of oppressed
humans on the planet. Men have oppressed women nonstop for the longest
length of time of any oppressed group, more than 5,000 years (The
Chalice and the Blade by Riane Eisler). A woman once told me that
dealing with male violence "was just part of being a woman!
I don't understand why many people-especially women-resist holding all
men responsible for male violence against women. Here are some popular
evasions:
1. "Not all men are violent" No one said they were. Since men
collectively hold more power than women, non-violent men are also
responsible for stopping male violence against women.
2. "Women are violent too" Two wrongs don't make a right. However, as
usual, women are blamed for their own degradation. As Mary Daly wrote
in her book Pure Lust, (p.365) " Within the Virulent State of
phallocracy, women have been attacked and divided against our Selves.
From the earliest times of the patriarchy, countless mothers have been
broken and the resulting broken daughters have carried on the chain of
fragmentation. . . They have been reduced to responding to the
fettered/fathered urge to reproduce their altered–that is,
patriarchally identified selves –in an endless circle of Self
destruction. Such forcible altered women have appeared to be normal
within the man made milieu."
Also, female violence pales in comparison to male violence. Men commit
88 percent of violent crime (US Bureau of Justice statistics). Women
don't build rape camps to torture and molest men to death. Women don't
control the U.S. government which spends half a trillion dollars a
year on mass murder (war). Globally, women can't walk alone without
the possibility of men assaulting them. The reverse is not true.
Even though some broken women may collaborate with patriarchal men to
gain power (Condi Rice, Margaret Thatcher etc.) it doesn't change the
fact that patriarchal men are in charge and allow selected token
"henchwomen" into the boys club–if they identify with and behave like
patriarchal men.
3. "Violence is a human problem affecting both sexes"
Mary Daly calls this tactic "universalism." Muddying the waters, it
dilutes the specific focus on male violence against women by making it
a gender neutral, universal human issue. It's another version of
"women are violent too."
4. The absent referent The "absent referent" refers to something
without naming it. (See Neither Man Nor Beast by Carol Adams p.16-17).
Mary Daly in her book Quintessence wrote, "Naming the agent is
required for an adequate analysis of atrocities. Timid terms such as
"sexual violence," "domestic violence" "gender-based violence," and
"violence" don't name men as the perpetrators. Even Amnesty
International, which calls it "a global scourge," uses the term
"violence against women" instead of "male violence against women." (
http://web.amnesty.org/actforwomen/index-eng).
5. Men also rape men and boys This doesn't change the fact that in
every nation on earth, in all levels of society, men rape women. Rape
is a male hate crime against women. Men who rape women have contempt
for women and want to degrade them. Even when men rape males, contempt
for women is the underlying issue. Men rape males to degrade them by
treating them like raped women.
6. The duality argument Supposedly, opposing something directly "gives
it more power." If racism and sexism were not opposed directly in the
U.S., blacks would still be slaves and women would still be men's
property, unable to vote, own a business or keep their own wages. If
the Nazis were not opposed directly, they would now run the world.
7. Passive grammar Instead of the active voice using the passive voice
(women were raped by men) instead of the active voice (men raped the
women) shifts the focus from the perpetrators and their actions (men
doing the raping) to their victims (the women being raped).
8. "Boys will be boys" Patriarchal cultures promote "nature over
nurture" (biological determinism). Supposedly, men are "naturally
violent." This legitimizes and perpetuates war and men's abuse of
women. Abnormal violent "manhood" is regarded as the norm.
Men are naturally peaceful. Archaeological evidence shows men enjoyed
and maintained 1,500 years of peace in ancient Crete! It's proven
today by many non-violent men. It takes traumatic conditioning to make
men violent. "Military training camps, police academies and even some
self-defense pros are constantly searching for more effective methods
of suppressing the human revulsion to taking human life." - The
Science of Creating Killers
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NGKFKDJHC1.DTL
9. "Societies were always patriarchal and men have always dominated women"
Marija Gimbutas, the world renowned archaeologist who wrote Goddesses
and Gods of Old Europe unearthed relics that prove men didn't always
dominate women and that women and men once shared power in peaceful
non-patriarchal Goddess worshipping societies. Riane Eisler's book The
Chalice and the Blade cites many more instances proving this.
Types of Male Violence against women
Modern patriarchal cultures are maintained by contempt for and abuse
of women. Male violence against women in the media, men's requirement
for emaciated super models and life threatening cosmetic surgery,
mandated pregnancy in most nations, and billions spent on violent
degrading pornography confirm this. Feeling contempt for women makes
it easier for violent men to abuse them.
Reproductive male violence against women (Mandated pregnancy)
Male supremacist governments force women to have children they don't
want or can't care for by denying women birth control or abortion.
Spiritual male violence against women Male supremacist religions claim
men have the right to control women. Men coerce women to have children
by telling women birth control or abortion is "sinful" and that
"children are sent from god" etc.
Men wrote all the scriptures of all the organized religions, so
"god's" agenda is men's agenda. Since the "words of god" are actually
the "words of men, men don't "play god" they ARE "god," as illustrated
by the following examples of male authored cosmic ca ca:
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your husbands, for the husband is the
head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church."— Ephesians
5:23-24.
"I thank thee O lord, that thou has not created me a heathen, a slave,
or a woman." – Orthodox Jewish prayer.
"God formed her body to belong to a man, to have and to rear children.
Let them bear children till they die of it."— Martin Luther.
"In pain shall you bear children, yet your urge will be for your
husband, and he shall rule over you."— Genesis 3:16.
"Your women are fields to cultivate, so go to your fields as you
will!" –Koran 2:223.
Physical male violence against women
Being battered by men is the number one "health" problem of women in
the US (U.S. surgeon general). Men batter 12% of pregnant woman,
causing 17% of birth defects (March of Dimes). Seventy-five percent of
women murdered during domestic violence are killed by men after they
leave them. (U.S Dept. of Justice-Bureau of Justice Statistics).
Since 1993, men raped and murdered more than 320 women in Juárez,
Mexico. Approximately 100 were sexual-torture killings; 450 more women
are missing. Men travel to Juarez to hunt, rape and murder women. (
http://codepink4peace.org/article.ph...=type&type=26).
Economic male violence against women women in most parts of the world
are paid less than men for the same work-if they're paid at att.
Educational male violence against women Men in Afghanistan kill women
who teach girls to read (Feminist Majority Foundation
www.feminist.org). Most of the world's illiterate people are women.
Medical and psychological male violence against women The male
dominated medical profession has prescribed shock treatment,
psychoactive drugs, lobotomies, life threatening diets, dangerous
cosmetic surgery and other "therapies" to tame wild women and make
them acceptable to men.
Silence is Complicity
Collectively, men hold more power than women, so all men are
responsible for stopping male violence against women. Increasing
numbers of men are opposing this atrocity in various ways.
For example, some men in Los Angeles organize demonstrations and march
against male violence against women wearing high heels. Their banner
reads, "Walk A MIle In Their Shoes." Other men write articles against
male violence. In Bob Herbert's 10/16/06 New York Times article "Why
aren't we shocked?" he wrote, "We have become so accustomed to living
in a society saturated with misogyny that violence against females is
more or less to be expected."
Each man must look into his heart and ask himself what he can do to
stop male violence against women. Speaking out is the first step.
Men against male violence against women
Here are a few men's web sites. A google search will find many more.
http://menagainstsexualviolence.org/ - men against sexual violence.
http://www.borderlands.org.au/masa/ men against sexual assault
http://www.uwlax.edu/MUASA/ - men united against sexual assault
http://www.interactivetheatre.org/mav/ - men against violence webring

Utopia Bold