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Advice column for a bad dad aka bad advice

Here is a column about a dad who is divorced and his children saw how it devestated him.

When you read this article look at all of the assumptions the columnists makes without information.

http://msn.match.com/msn/article.asp...id=7&GT1=26000

Every thing is somehow his fault and he is apparently according to the columnist a selfish person because he didn't hide his emotions enough {which if he had hid them he would then have been an emotional cripple and therefore still wrong}



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Re: Advice column for a bad dad aka bad advice

MSN articles are riddled with misandry, and note they don't allow viewer input - so they have no one to answer to and are free to assume they're constantly right.








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Here it is, How would you reply:

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Suddenly single? Ask Dr. Gilda
By Dr. Gilda Carle, Ph.D. Dear Dr. Gilda,
I recently divorced and moved into a new house with my two children after 22 years of marriage. This is all outside my comfort zone. I always did what my wife wanted. Now I’m my own man: I take my children to try new foods and spend time at places I would normally not have gone. So I am a late 40-something man, who has had his heart broken, but is now bouncing back. I feel ready to date, but where, when, and how? I have my two lovely teenage boys every other week.

I told my sons that I am ready to date and that they don’t have to feel like they’re my caretakers anymore. But one of them said, “Be careful Dad, I won’t have anyone break your heart again.” How do I now date without guilt about how my sons are reacting?
– Mr. Confused and Careful


Dear Mr. Confused and Careful,
Uh-oh, your use of the word “caretakers” tells me a lot! During your painful divorce, you unwittingly threw your two sons into the role of your confidante and caretaker. You shared your heartache with them, as though they were your buddies. This also cast their mother as the source of your pain. You’ve painted yourself into a corner. Children need to feel protected by and safe with both their parents. Towards that end, divorced parents ought not to denigrate their exes. As children grow up, they can make their own assessments regarding whom their parents really are.

Overseeing parents’ emotions puts too much pressure on youngsters; this is the time they need to figure out their own relationships. Your sons now picture their mom, and probably most women, as the gender that “breaks hearts.” How will they formulate healthy unions when they go off on their own? As my Gilda-Gram advises, “Be friendly towards your children, not friends with them.”

You can’t un-ring the bell. So you will have to work overtime now to get your boys on track. This is what I suggest:

1. Now that they’re teens, honestly admit that involving them in your divorce was wrong and selfish. Tell them you now know that grownups must work out their difficulties without burdening their children.
2. You say, “I always did what my wife wanted.” Lacking a backbone in your former marriage, it is no wonder the relationship collapsed. Find out why you were so willing to subjugate yourself to your ex’s wishes, perhaps with the help of a therapist. That way, you can be sure not to repeat that pattern in future relationships.
3. Make it your mission now to continue to discover your personal passions, to pursue them, and to express them to the women you meet.
4. Don’t get your sons involved in your dating. Because of your kids’ feelings, soft-pedal your dates as “meetings with friends,” without explanation.
5. Talk well to your sons about women in your family, your circle of friends, and at your job; this will support positive imagery and opinions of females, rather than viewing them all as “heart-breakers.”
The less you share your relationships, the more your children will be free to experiment with their own. This is a time for growth for you and your children. Be sure the boundaries are now well-defined.

Relationship expert Dr. Gilda (www.DrGilda.com) has a private practice, is a motivational speaker and associate professor of business, psychology, and communications at New York’s Mercy College. She is also the founder of the video blog, GildaVision, on her web site. Her best-selling books include Don’t Bet on the Prince! How to Have the Man You Want by Betting On Yourself and He’s Not All That! How to Attract the Good Guys.
Dear Confused and Careful.

Your carefulness is slipping writing to Dr Gilda. Ask a mate instead; a male mate.

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Your ex screwed up your life and you cannot expect a female 'Dr' to do anything other than screw it up more. It's the nature of the beast.

You have clearly shown in your marriage, from what you say, that you tried hard to adapt to your ex's wishes, were sensitive and helpful, and it clearly wasn't enough. It never is. I am guessing from your pain that you really loved her. That wasn't enough either. Again, it never is.

You care for your sons and they care for you. That, Sir, is great. They are possibly a little more wordly wise than you give credit for, so encourage them to ride point for you and go have some fun.

How do you now date you ask. Carefully and confusedly, I reckon. Keep being careful and lose the confusion with a couple of simple rules. For starters:

1. Make sure she pays for the dinners and taxis and theatre tickets.
2. If she tries to kiss you goodnight, pepper spray her and call the cops.
3. If she tries to take your arm, keep an eye on your legs as well.
4. There isn't a Rule 4.

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Re: Advice column for a bad dad aka bad advice

He shouldn't have to hide his emotions. He's not inhumane, or made of steel. He's a human being. But he should be careful how much he relies on his children to take care of him. But it sounds to me like he already sees that this was an issue...he recognized that fact without help from "the doc"...and he talked with his children about it. Big kudos to him! Sounds like he doesn't need this woman's advice (it's bad advice anyway)...nor does he need a therapist. He did exactly what he needed to do. He did what was right. He re-aligned his relationship with his kids. He's meeting his own needs now. On top of all of this, he has the presence of mind to think about and worry that his dating will impact his children. I think the doc's advice ("don't tell the kids what he's really doing...let them think he's having meetings instead") is horrible advice. She's suggesting he lie to them. Does she not realize that something like that would backfire on this man (and the kids, and their relationship with their father?)! What kind of counselor/therapist is this woman? It's my understanding that the number one ethical principle in counseling is to do no harm!


 
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what? Doctor or social worker?

The courts pulled the same kinda feminazi crap with me---geeez....your kids know to much...they are not fuckin' BLIND,DEAF and DUMB and they talk...and they wanna talk...
Oh geez kids-sorry but if i talk to you about your feelings and concerns-i will be pasted as an abuser---FUCK_OFF

Sounds like the EXACT- FEMINAZI SS FATHER ASSASSINS-that i had to deal with--they must have a guide of some sort to pick any kind of fuckin' garbage they want--this is waay to uncanny to be a coincidence..


YES! this makes me angry.


 
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No outdoors it's no coincidence. If you look at the divorce industry it is over whelmingly run by women so it by nature is gynocentric.

A ton of lawyers may be male but most social workers, CSA workers, shelters etc etc are run by women and the courts listen to them so if women in general are biased against men so will the women who run the industry and by default the industry itself will become anti male.

So there is no way it could be coincidence.


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He shouldn't have to hide his emotions. He's not inhumane, or made of steel. He's a human being. But he should be careful how much he relies on his children to take care of him. But it sounds to me like he already sees that this was an issue...he recognized that fact without help from "the doc"...and he talked with his children about it. Big kudos to him! Sounds like he doesn't need this woman's advice (it's bad advice anyway)...nor does he need a therapist. He did exactly what he needed to do. He did what was right. He re-aligned his relationship with his kids. He's meeting his own needs now. On top of all of this, he has the presence of mind to think about and worry that his dating will impact his children. I think the doc's advice ("don't tell the kids what he's really doing...let them think he's having meetings instead") is horrible advice. She's suggesting he lie to them. Does she not realize that something like that would backfire on this man (and the kids, and their relationship with their father?)! What kind of counselor/therapist is this woman? It's my understanding that the number one ethical principle in counseling is to do no harm!
I know I don't do it very often but, NICE analysis TERA.

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Tera-yes,u must lie to your kids ar have them blindfoled and locked up in a sound proof room-this way they cannot see the pain that dad is going through-if the kids ask you for help or just wanna talk about the divorce(they are not stupid)-You must smile,tell them,"no big deal", and buy their mother some roses and wish her well,for tearing your family apart.
This is what our FeminaziSS court system wants anyways.
God forbid a man going through emotional trauma after divorce and god forbid the kids running to Dad for comfort-this is just unacceptable.
Even if Dad was the one that was always there for his children-he is NOT aloud to cry,be angry,hug his kids or anything else that might make the "mom" be seen as anything but the perfect person.


 
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