I actually read a study along those lines when I was getting my Sociology degree...........I’m a licensed clinical therapist… and, yeah, I’m a dude.

Sociology. Of course.

What is a sociologist doing as a Clinical Therapist?

What the fuck IS a Clinical Therapist?

Is it the same sort of fakery as 'Dude'?

Do you have any balls or are you just full of bollocks?

Helel... Those are excellent points. To assume these findings could be applied to men in general, would be incorrect. I agree that the results of any study performed in a single area can only be applied to that area, assuming the methodology is sound and the sample size large enough. I will need to dig out the study to see where it was conducted. (I want to say it was Southern California, but I'm not certain.)

I also discovered that the study mentioned by the Original Poster is different from the one I mentioned. I haven’t read the study, but it was published in The Journal of Research in Personality. (Being published in a scientific journal does not guarantee reliability, obviously.) I found another study similar to the one I mentioned in my post, but that study found 15% of men would commit rape if they knew they could get away with it. The sample size there was 356 men. That number sounds much closer to what I would imagine the number to be.

As I said, my tendency to agree with the findings of this study does not reflect a low-opinion of men. (I'm a man, and I think I'm pretty cool.) I think men and women are loathsome to an equal degree. Nothing in my experience has shown me that women are more decent or nurturing or honest. (Here’s a fun fact you guys might enjoy… a study in the UK found that almost 40% of women are letting their husbands raise a child they only THINK is theirs.) Men just don't live with the threat of rape, so the threat tends to be marginalized by many men.

Percy... Why do you assume I only have one degree? I have three Bachelor's degrees (Sociology, Psychology, Criminal Justice), a Master of Arts in Clinical Counseling Psychology and a PhD in Psychology. (Jealous?) I've been a student since 1991, and probably always will be. I'm currently finishing up a fourth Bachelor's in English with an emphasis on American Literature.

Since you asked, a Clinical Therapist provides counseling for people suffering from severe emotional disorders. I work mainly with victims of violent crimes, but also paroled violent offenders.

so they are saying that only 40% of the male population would commit sexual assault? that's pretty much saying that almost all men would do it which is simply not true. where are they getting their numbers on?

It's good to see that it's down to 60%, contradicting the claim that "all men are rapists".

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I was required to attend a sexual assault informational seminar at my university today...

Were you compelled to attend? Was it compulsory? Did failure/refusal to attend incur any penalty? Did you have any choice about whether or not you wanted to be subjected to feminist brainwashing?

Whenever feminits quote statistics like these, it reinforces the statistic that 100% of their statistics are lies.

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However, it’s worth noting that about 60% of rapes go unreported. A recent report by an officer in one Utah town discovered that 90% of rapes committed in a ten year period went unreported.

Noting? Any half intelligent human being would contest such a oxymoronic stance. To base statistics on what isn't real and hasn't been diligently reported - delves into the absurd! If something is an unknown, then the ideologues charged with agenda will make up the figures as the hysteria unfolds.

Therefore everything that spawns from your position must be flagged as questionable. You claim many degrees, but you don't retain basic intelligence to realize you're being worked as an ideological sop.

Who was the study aimed at anyway? How can 100 men speak for 3.5billion of em let alone the 1000's each of us know. If the study was advertised to creeps or handed to the guys who had a record of violence and drinking, how legit is that?

Can I offer another slant on these "stats" that purport to find substantially high numbers of males who are allegedly prone to a particular course of action, or who allegedly actually take that course of action? My thought is that if that action really is so common and forms such a regular feature of male behaviour, then shouldn't we simply recognise it as a normal human characteristic and stop criminalising it?

To put it another way, if 90% of us (or choose whatever high number you want, as the feminists do) happily rape women on occasion when we feel like doing so, then should rape not be recognised as normal, natural male behaviour, and accommodated accordingly in everyday human relationships? After all, we men have to put up with shitty female behaviour that is perpetrated by extremely high percentages of the female population when they feel like it, despite the enormous damage it does to us. Think emotional abuse, lying, cheating, overspending and leaving us to pick up the bill, separating us from our children etc etc, none of which is ever criminalised.

If we are obliged to cut women such enormous amounts of slack because it is apparently in their nature to behave that way, or just because it is the wrong time of the month for them and we have to accept that's the way it is so stop complaining, then it seems to me that in the interests of equality, women should be obliged to cut us similar levels of slack when we feel like raping them. If we don't legislate against the nasty side of female behaviour that hurts males, why should we legislate against the nasty side of male behaviour that hurts females? We all believe in equality, do we not?

Nice to see a valued input begin again Paul.

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...if 90% of us (or choose whatever high number you want, as the feminists do) happily rape women on occasion when we feel like doing so, then should rape not be recognised as normal, natural male behaviour, and accommodated accordingly in everyday human relationships?

Now, now - feminists want MORE men criminalized more often, not less.
Feminists only accept bad behaviours as 'human' when women do them, not men. Remember, in some schools of feminist thinking, men are NOT human - at all. They literally see us as less, genetically inferior and generally undeserving of human-rights. Much like how the Nazi's saw Jews.

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After all, we men have to put up with shitty female behaviour that is perpetrated by extremely high percentages of the female population when they feel like it, despite the enormous damage it does to us.

Oh like, killing children and giving it a 'special name' like 'infanticide' so as to detract from the fact that it's ... killing the most defenceless and incapable people of all groups?

Aww, women are such victims!

Thank you, guest, for your input.

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...one of the questions was: “If you were 100% certain that you could get away with it, would you commit rape?” (Rape was defined as vaginal intercourse forcibly performed against the participants will.) The actual result of the study was that approximately 40% of the men answered ‘yes’...

As horrifying as that statistic is, it could be something like accurate (in the right order of magnitude, perhaps) if we look at incidents such as when male soldiers, unfettered by social rules or any restrictions, capture somewhere and kill all the men. Many recorded incidents in history - and in modern isolated news reports (from Africa for example) - imply that many unfettered and sexually frustrated young men will rape when they are raised in a society that makes it acceptable.

I wish I could completely deny it but we might as well face reality. When facing reality, it must be faced fully or it is not real but make-believe. All the facts must be taken into account if sociological data is to make any sense instead of being a flight of imagination. Rape IS rare in modern civilised society. Even our false rape cultures can't inflate figures enough to show that rape and other sexual assaults are anything but rare. The reason that sexual assaults are rare in society despite the hypothetical question in the survey lies in the very way the hypothesis is framed: "If you were 100% certain that you could get away with it."

We could ask ourselves this about many things:

• If you were 100% certain that you could get away with it, would you drive over the speed limit?
• If you were 100% certain that you could get away with it, would you rob a bank?
• If you were 100% certain that you could get away with it, would you have extra-marital sex?
• If you were 100% certain that you could get away with it, would you kill someone?

Of course, there is no reason to ask only some people in society these questions. For the answers to be meaningful in any way, they need be asked of a significant number of people from differering socio-econimic backgrounds, races, religions, .. and sexes.

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Studies conducted via questionnaire are considered only moderately reliable, although the methodology used in the study was sound.

The methodology was only sound if the conclusion is for that specific year in that specific university, highlighting that there is no control subjectivity. 100 in one universtity is not enough to exrapolate to other universities, other years, non-volunteers, etc., let alone have any sociological meaning for the wider community that hosts the university.

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In discussing the study in class (it was actually criminology class), almost everyone agreed that the final results were probably skewed by participants who were not taking the study seriously; although, many in the class felt that ...

If you are a scholar, you should see the problem by now. A 'study' that is so ambiguous in result that it can be reasonably argued about how it should or should not be adjusted to fit the reality of what is going on in people's minds has achieved very little, if anything.

100 young men taking part in a questionaire to get a little extra cash? This is supposed to be sociologically meaningful? Or even be close enough to fact to be discussed in criminolgy? Maybe it is better than no information at all but even that is arguable.

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However, it’s worth noting that about 60% of rapes go unreported. A recent report by an officer in one Utah town discovered that 90% of rapes committed in a ten year period went unreported.

Either of these figures might be right. Or might not be. Prove them, either of them. Prove that there was a rape and that the rape was not reported. If you can't do that, at least be scholistic enough in future to state something like "some sources make claims of unreported rapes being between 1% and 1000% of the number of rapes" which is a fully-inclusive statement allowing for all the claims out there.

Like all other crimes, of course there are unreported rapes. But unless you can prove that a rape occurred that was not reported, there is no solid data to go on and you are into the realms of political propaganda (e.g. "the number of unreported rapes of men each year is 70% of the population").

Your posting was interesting and correctly contained study parameters and explanations of the analysis for much of the information. For that, I thank you as it is a lot better than the usual misandric drivel given out to show how bad men are.

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(Here’s a fun fact you guys might enjoy… a study in the UK found that almost 40% of women are letting their husbands raise a child they only THINK is theirs.)

From my experience connected with a UK genetic study which in children and the live biological parents they named, all of whom had to volunteer for the study (but remain anonymous with no results revealed), almost exactly one seventh of the children were not related to the man they named as their biological father.

There would obviously be a number of deceiving mothers who refused to take part despite the anonymity assurance but that number is not known. Nor do I know the proportion of children who are wrong in naming their father when the 'father' knows he was cuckolded; or the proportion knowingly brought up by a man who was not the genetic father.

So the percentage of children mis-naming their father is over 14% - and the percentage of women letting their husbands raise a child they only THINK is theirs is unlikely to be more than double that (at a guess).

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To put it another way, if 90% of us (or choose whatever high number you want, as the feminists do) happily rape women on occasion when we feel like doing so...

But they don't.

Going back to the questionable study by our highly-educated guest, many men answered that they would rape if they were 100% sure of getting away with it.
BUT
that same study also returned the response that said "almost all of the men stated that they would attempt to kill the rapist of a loved one."

Given that almost all of the men stated that they would attempt to kill the rapist of a loved one, just how many of them could believe they are 100% sure of getting away with rape?

Or in other words, even if one were to accept the skewed data, there is one thing that makes the vast majority of women safe from violence and sexual assault: men.

Some other random facts I recall: Just over 10% of the participants identified themselves as homosexual, and the percentage of participants who answered ‘yes’ to the rape questions was half that of the heterosexual participants; five percent of the participants stated that they had committed rape as defined in the questionnaire; and almost all of the men stated that they would attempt to kill the rapist of a loved one. I believe the study was conducted in the early ‘90s; and it was conducted by a law enforcement organization, not a feminist group. I remember the study so well, because I referenced it in two research papers. (Okay, one research paper that I re-worked later to satisfy another requirement in another class… not technically cheating.)

Are you sure it wasn't a feminist group?