The illogical nature of the woman's claim is astounding, as capitalism is the VERY system that has allowed the Western world to evolve into an advanced civilisation, which has led to the progression of technology and the implementation of services that are able to accommodate for the physiological and intellectual weaknesses of women that prevented them from competing with men in the past.

If capitalism were to have never existed, then society would be as barbaric and primitive as the Muslim states of today where the clinically insane (IE. feminists and socialists) are condemned and held accountable for their contemptible behaviour.

The following article should allow you to develop an *Understanding* of socialism/feminism - http://www.mens-rights.net/commentar...2006-01-23.htm

Women have never been oppressed in the Western world, as the Old English Law system has offered women an abundance of impunity for hundreds of years. In fact, the Old English Law system forced the men to take accountability for their wive's behaviour, which meant the men were punished for the crimes that were performed by their wives. How on Earth can a demographic who are offered an abundance of legal impunity claim to be oppressed?

The very definition of oppression equates to the subjugation of a party via the usage of force and cruelty, and such action has been used against men for a long time, however women have been offered a wealth of protection from such treatment. Concepts such as chivalry has ensured that women are privileged and offered more protection than any other demographic, therefore it's a logical fallacy to claim that women are/were oppressed.

If the woman is so intelligent, then how come her writings are inundated by an abundance of spelling and grammatical errors? Her claims are unsubstantiated and are quite clearly the fulmination of an uneducated bigot.

The only reason that the present generation of women are able to manipulate men with a greater amount of ease than their ancestors were able to is due to the following; (i) the implementation of political correctness and the retention of chivalry, and, (ii) the presence of MAN-made products that accommodate for the intellectual and physiologically inferiority of women, and, (iii) the introduction of an abundance of laws that offer legal impunity to women who commit horrific crimes against men.

Men in general are intellectually and physiologically superior to women, as can be identified by the fact that 90% of inventions have been created by men (even in today's society at least 80% of patents are filed by men).

The inferiority of women can be identified by the fact they're dependent upon the state's assistance in order to perform the most menial of tasks, as can be identified by the insane laws and services that have been legislated at the request of the radical feminists.

Translation: How dare the intellectually superior men use their spatial faculties to repudiate the unsubstantiated claims that were offered by a neurotic woman.

I was not rude, I was stern, something which many of the men and women in "SYG" could not deal with. Ultimately, I'd been warned three times, which was fair enough but then Dr.Evil who is a complete waster, decided to ban me when he saw no use for me.

In actual fact, once I was banned their were a number of requests from user's who wanted me to be kept on the site as a token radfem and so on.

People on this forum can throw as many studies and statistics at me, but at the end of the day Feminsim has a cause, ANTI-FEMINISM doesn't. Im here to observe and engage in conversation to seek out why you hate Feminist's so much.

I was banned from "SYG" simply because I stated that all the men on the forum relished on objectivity, yet there stance came from personal experiences such as a false accusation of rape which to me flaws their attacks against me for not having experienced any direct oppression in society.

The reason I'm no longer a member is because they couldn't cope with the fact that a Woman raised valid questions without relying on studies, authors and theories.

If that gets me banned from here then so be it...but I hope we can get along. "SYG" has been nourished by its bias moderators into a very hostile enviornment, which claims superiority in a very manipulative way. Up to now I have found that this forum does not do that, so maybe things will be successful.....???

The ad-hominem insults that were utilised by the women are quite nauseating, and the unsubstantiated nature of her writings are an indication that she was unable to offer anything insightful to the forum, therefore one can understand why she was banned.

The woman's failure to offer a citation to any form of verifiable evidence means that her claim is based on nothing other than her subjective opinion, and her comment can be repudiated in extensive detail by anyone who is knowledgeable about feminism and Old English Law.

The early feminists were socialists, and the first-ever Women's Convention that was held on American soil was situated at Seneca Falls, New York, USA in 1848 (the same year as the first socialist meetings were held in Germany), and the women who attended the conference were unable to offer anything more than unsubstantiated claims and hysterical lies.

The claims that were offered by the original feminists have NEVER been verified through factual evidence (in fact they have been repudiated by many fact-checkers who have studied the Old English Law System and seen that it offered women a LOT of privilege) and were merely taken as the *Gospel Truth* by their followers, who ended up including the deceitful lies in the education system.

Asked me for proof why feminism causes suicides?I would not provide it
because feminists are predictable:


When you speak to feminists they always adopt a stern aggressive attitude when I return that I am accused of aggression.Then when these stern types get some heat they produce tears and the man is accused of being a bully. Most feminists are not worth the hassle besides they are only small fish.When the masculist revolution happens I want to arrest someone like Germaine Greer or Mary Robinson and bring them before a a masculist tribunal. :badgrin:

I think the real reason you won't show me facts on Feminist's causing suicide is because there are none. Suicide is a tangled web, it is impossible to assume people's reasons for killing themselves. Only they know.

If a Woman's aggression is as threatening as a Man's then I'd hold my hands up and say some of my thread comments on "SYG" were uncalled for, but in actual fact not one person was threatened by anything I said for the simple reason that I was a woman.

As far as I'm concerned the people on "SYG" degrade those who they don't agree with.

Maybe some of the Men here should sit back, take a look around and think "There's only one life, why spend it fighting a lost cause?" Anti-Feminism is a lost cause. Be constructive and build uo bad relationships, work within the community, have fun. Don't make it your life mission to destroy womanhood.

I understand completely Men opposing views of some radical feminists, but you can't generalise the whole thing.

As for the banned discussion, THOSE RESPONSES WERE SAID WELL BEFORE I WAS BANNED, I WAS GIVEN THREE WARNINGS, AND I THEN ABIDED BY THE RULES. THEN OUT OF NOWHERE WHEN I WAS MAKING A STRUCTURED ARGUMENT DR.EVIL, BANNED ME FOR NO REASON. I HAD BROKE NO RULES.

Skirtsandhighheels/manhoodbiss,

Why not take some of your issues to feminist flipside- that's the 'official' place for mra'/feminist interaction & debate

The introduction thread is hardly the place for all this

Also, becuase men are given a raw deal in regards to child custody, are constantly informed about how easy it is to fall victim to bogus rape charges and are consistantly pestered by the feminist-led government to always give and never recieve-

Is it a wonder men are killing themselves!!

Oh- there were generic comments about male suicides here: http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealt...ionsuicide.htm

and a more personal/detailed account here:
http://www.ncfm.org/ROSS.HTM

The first article does make comments around men's mental health and that suicide occurs with men who are isolated by society

The second one explains that presussures such as men being conscripted to war and having to be providers are added stresses which contribute to men's negative feelings

I think it would be rather niave to think feminism doesn't contribute to:

a) enforcing biased legislation through government (i.e. VAWA/rape shield laws etc)

b) myths through the education system designed to make young men feel guilty (i.e. wage gap propaganda- the belief that males have always been privilaged throughout history- the issue of suffrage etc)

c) making women feel that it is their right to screw men over in divorce courts thereby expecting to gain total custody of children, property and future earnings- whilst men are decidedly conditioned (and accurately so) that they will get absolutely nothing- yet will be expected to pay for everything

d) blatant misandry in society, politics and the mainstream media- where we are taught early on men are walking punch-bags, who have no real rights and are there as figures to mock and laugh at

So I reiterate:

Is it a wonder men are killing themselves!

This thread has been split from it's original location, here:

That is a remarkable statement. It is deep, like so many feminist
utterances. Deep even unto bottomlessness -- which is to say, it has
no bottom; it hangs in the air.

I find it difficult to comprehend what is meant by the statement that "anti-
feminism" doesn't have a cause. Why, it is simply against feminism,
and against the fruits which the tree of feminism has borne in the world.

To fell a tree and to destroy its fruits -- that surely sounds like a
"cause" if you ask me.