Can I open my own door? Yes. Do I like it when men open them for me? Sure. Am I about to stop a man, who wants to treat me with the respect I deserve, from doing something nice for me? Not over my dead feminist body.

You are a card, Sam.

The problem this young woman fails to address is the sheer rudeness of her sistas who berate men for opening the door or doing something nice. Feminism is irrational, as she shows. One might ask why she does not severely criticise the harridans and point out their role in creating havok.

if that feminit dereistic fantasy could be rhymed it could pass for some sort of chickenshit doggerel

why did you have to post this , percy?

I though that would be obvious, Sam.

But.....

Young women are chafing at the bit. They are feeling the effect of feminism. They don't like it.

They want to have what existed before they shat in the bed.

But as they have invested so much emotional angst in feminism, they don't want to give it up.

They are therfore turning neurotic. This is a typical early stage of mental breakdown. Until she can let go of feminism and stop holding competing ideologies in her head simultaneously, she will progressively deteriorate and have a full blown psychosis.

This one young woman at Uni, probably barely 20 yet with cradle marks on her bum, is a poster-girl for the 1960's feminist who will reach 1990's feminism with all its hatred and blame and victimhood by the time she is 23.

Steady on there, samofsons. I think we can all understand your intense irritation at the hypocrisy and sheer idiocy of the article; but please don't let it get to you at a personal level. Women like Jayme Campbell are indeed patronising, burbling basket cases, "shaved chimps with lipstick" as you so graphically and eloquently put it, and there are frightening numbers of them being churned out by the feminazi sausage machine. But they are not worth your bursting a blood vessel and doing yourself some kind of injury. Try to keep your anger under control and let it burn slowly. It can be much more productive that way.

I was thinking of writing a comment on the university site (just my opinion) and even registered. But I got carried away with my view (it's late) so thought, "Hmm, why waste it, someone may want to pick it apart on antimisandry". Who knows, I may learn some things from a man's perspective on this. (with pleasure of course)



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IMO, opening doors for someone is courteous, paying for a date is a very kind gesture, giving flowers is giving a gift. Both men and women do this either because they want to and it's unconditional or they do it for something in return that can possibly put a man or woman in an uncomfortable position. All of these things and for what ever reason is not chivalry IMO.

Chivalry to me, is what stops women from equality in the army where women are not allowed on the front line. This is because men are protecting women (chivalry) and with women needing special treatment (protection), they are a liability to the front line in war where men die and where injuries mean disabled for life.

To me, chivalry is when society gives girl power and says, "You go girl, you can do it" but when she falls or makes a mistake a man is blamed for not protecting (chivalry) her from her own errors/misjudgments.

To me, chivalry is when men take the blame for women’s bad decisions and actions.

To me, chivalry is like 'white ribbon day' where men wear a white ribbon to signify they will stop a man from hurting a woman. This is because ‘white ribbon day’ portrays women as weak and needy of men's protection (chivalry) while showing women and girls a man with a white ribbon can be trusted to run to for protection. Also because unthinking men will blindly action without taking into account it may not be the man's fault (chivalry = man takes the blame) or that the woman is equally at fault (chivalry =women never at fault, incapable of taking responsibility for her own actions). Some males even take this to the extreme and badly beat up other males, stab them or shoot them which can end up in death for one man and life in prison for the other man/men. Some males find themselves being attacked by a woman for interfering and fighting her lover. Some males end up being arrested while defending a woman. The other side to men being chivalrous this way means women have to appreciate their protectors and judge men on their physical strength rather than their heart and mind. It encourages a dysfunctional society where women encourage men to fight for them and men in turn harm one another while women become the prize.

Feminism is anti chivalry because it encourages men to control women. Of course if men can trust women to do what is in both their best interest men will treat her as an equal but unfortunately a lot of women don't do what is in the best interest of their protector but rather do what they feel like doing even if it is risky and asking for trouble (from what I have seen). A man needs to either trust the woman he is protecting (chivalry) or has to keep her under close supervision and stop her from putting herself or himself (as the protector) in a dangerous situation. Chivalrous men are responsible for women’s welfare as a parent, and as the ones taking responsibility men need to know women are under control as the child. What happens if she does something stupid under the influence of alcohol and he is expected to take responsibility for her actions as her protector?

It is also not in men's best interest to be chivalrous for their own rights. Rights are a recent activity and men will be the last to have theirs. (women and children first, gays and then heterosexual men). Gays can reach out when abused by gays but can heterosexual men reach out when they are chivalrous and protecting their women perpetrators?

Chivalry is not dead because women themselves find it hard to let go of men's protection. It is something men would like to let go of. But it doesn't mean men and women can't open doors for each other, of shout a night out or buy flowers as a gift, IMO.

This woman comes across as utterly confused, she also commits that cardinal feminine sin of believing she has good knowledge of men, which she obviously does not.

Can I open my own door? Yes. Do I like it when men open them for me? Sure. Am I about to stop a man, who wants to treat me with the respect I deserve, from doing something nice for me? Not over my dead feminist body.

This whole respect thing pisses me off no end, no one “deserves” respect unless they do something consistently enough to earn it, the best any one should expect is common courtesy and only then if you behave accordingly, respect is something a bit deeper.


My stance on holding doors ....... around ten years ago at my then workplace i held a door for a woman walking behind me “ooooh what a gentleman” she said rather patronizingly “holding the door for a lady” to which i replied “i held the door because of who i am, not because of who you think you might be” she gave me the bog standard filthy look and moved on but i think (hope) she got the message. I could not bring myself to let a door slam in any ones face no matter what gender, unless they were chasing me with a pointy object and intent on doing me harm but i cant abide women who waffle on about door opening as if its some major deal ...... grow the fuck up will ya !

Phew, Jools. That's a tough chivalry you have there.



Nice choice of phrases there to keep a feminist reading.

Chivalry and feminism needs to die!!!

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Phew, Jools. That's a tough chivalry you have there.



Nice choice of phrases there to keep a feminist reading.

I was hoping for an assessment because you are very good at that. But because someone gave me a rep point for it, (thank-you), and you said nothing else, I just posted it as a comment.

I guess you can't be wrong for an opinion.

Heh
You know it's funny yesterday me and my mom were shopping for some food, so we are looking for some stuff to make some miso soup(Which is some good shit) so we went to two supermarkets and yet we could not find what we need, so my mom told me about this little out of the way asian food store and even though we were not sure if it was still open we drove across town and into a some what bad area of town and we came to this old and I mean OLD building and we saw that the stroe was open.
So we go into this store that must have been buildt in the late 30's to early 50's and there was this old chinese lady she must in her late 70's ti mid 80's and so I'm look around this store and most of the shelves are empty but it also had some really cool shit in it.
So we indtroduce ourselves to the old lady, my mom use to come to the store a lot when she lived in town and so when I introduced myself to the old lady she had such a friendly smile and she was just so adorable that when I shook her hand I kissed the top of like a Gentlemen from the days of old and she just smiled.

Point being is that this old lade was not some old bitter hag, no she is a lady and so while my mom was to talking to her about getting some stuff to make the miso soup I'm looking around the store and it was like taking a ride on the Way Back Machine and so I asked her how long she had the store for and she told she had been running the store for over theirty years and dispite her advanced age she still had all her wits about her.

So she asked my mom what she need for the miso soup and she surpised my mom by asking her if she needed the miso soup base which my mom had no clue about it so as we got the stuff for the soup we talked to the old lady and all the while she was poltie, happy and friendly.

Basicly a REAL LADY and not some old bitter man hating hag.

So I am some what of a gentleman towards ladyies and not women, in most cases some of the older females of the human race are ladies for the most part and as such I treat them as such and with respect, how ever younger women in this day and age 18 to 40 are bitches and as such I don't show them the lest bit of chivelry and fact they can go and blow dead, rancid rotting goats for all I care.

Point being is that it is the older Ladies (60 to 90) that are worthy of being treated like ladies and the younger women can go and fuck themselve with a dull, rusty chainsaw

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Heh
You know it's funny yesterday me and my mom were shopping for some food, so we are looking for some stuff to make some miso soup(Which is some good shit) so we went to two supermarkets and yet we could not find what we need, so my mom told me about this little out of the way asian food store and even though we were not sure if it was still open we drove across town and into a some what bad area of town and we came to this old and I mean OLD building and we saw that the stroe was open.
So we go into this store that must have been buildt in the late 30's to early 50's and there was this old chinese lady she must in her late 70's ti mid 80's and so I'm look around this store and most of the shelves are empty but it also had some really cool shit in it.
So we indtroduce ourselves to the old lady, my mom use to come to the store a lot when she lived in town and so when I introduced myself to the old lady she had such a friendly smile and she was just so adorable that when I shook her hand I kissed the top of like a Gentlemen from the days of old and she just smiled.

Point being is that this old lade was not some old bitter hag, no she is a lady and so while my mom was to talking to her about getting some stuff to make the miso soup I'm looking around the store and it was like taking a ride on the Way Back Machine and so I asked her how long she had the store for and she told she had been running the store for over theirty years and dispite her advanced age she still had all her wits about her.

So she asked my mom what she need for the miso soup and she surpised my mom by asking her if she needed the miso soup base which my mom had no clue about it so as we got the stuff for the soup we talked to the old lady and all the while she was poltie, happy and friendly.

Basicly a REAL LADY and not some old bitter man hating hag.

So I am some what of a gentleman towards ladyies and not women, in most cases some of the older females of the human race are ladies for the most part and as such I treat them as such and with respect, how ever younger women in this day and age 18 to 40 are bitches and as such I don't show them the lest bit of chivelry and fact they can go and blow dead, rancid rotting goats for all I care.

Point being is that it is the older Ladies (60 to 90) that are worthy of being treated like ladies and the younger women can go and fuck themselve with a dull, rusty chainsaw

The most they'd get out of me is a greeting, nothing more!

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The most they'd get out of me is a greeting, nothing more!

I can't blame you for that but one thing I have learned is that most of the very aged people men and ladies alike are worthy of respect because they were raised right by their parents way back in the 40's late 50's but unfortunetly they are fast disapering and they have much good wisdom and morals that could really be good for this generation, sadly however most young pepole no a days have no respect for their elders which is sad really and we can thank the femanazis and the assholes who pander to them for destroying the good morals and love that men and women once had so long ago, sort of reminds me of the WW1 vets, sitting all alone with their memroies of what once was and asking themselves why the hell did I go to war for this shit that socty is now a days.
Sad really.

Can I open my own door? Yes. Do I like it when men open them for me? Sure. Am I about to stop a man, who wants to treat me with the respect I deserve, from doing something nice for me? Not over my dead feminist body.

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This whole respect thing pisses me off no end, no one “deserves” respect unless they do something consistently enough to earn it, the best any one should expect is common courtesy and only then if you behave accordingly, respect is something a bit deeper.

Equally, I find the arrogant expectations of modern women that they be 'respected' without question to be rather disturbing (as witnessed by my sig).

I believe adopting common civilty as a base social framework is a fairer and more inclusive alternative to warped notions of chivalry. The danger to any society aspiring to democracy is elevating one group above another using the pretext of outdated and inpractical social conventions (chivalry).

When one group automatically attains respect based on nothing more then merely existing, and there's no requirement for respectul deeds and behaviour to be fulfilled in order to be respected - we then have conditions for society to become lopsided (the status quo) and open to abuse by the elevated group and it's affiliated opportunists (govt, feminists, lawyers, ideologues etc).

Undoubtedly men and women have different ideas as to what constitutes respect. For men, I would say it's related to morals and behaviour. For women, I think it's about men fawning and submitting to women's sexual power.

When women are respected regardless of how they conduct themselves, then there no longer exists any incentive for them to be respectful themselves. Ergo unwarranted respect becomes counterproductive. For me, the explosion in female chauvinism and it's negative ramifications can be directly attributed to chivalry elevating women way beyond a productive social equilibrium.

In response to my valid points I've heard both feminists and women say something to the effect of "don't you have a mother, and who gave birth to you - a woman." I note how that this is only one woman and that I don't extrapolate any respect I have for her to every other woman on the planet - just by virtue of also being a woman. Do you think any woman respects all men merely because they have men they respect in their lives? Of course not! Even so, It's an illogical and faulty premise I hear women using all the time to garner universal respect for women.

Want respect? Earn it!

In response to my valid points I've heard both feminists and women say something to the effect of "don't you have a mother, and who gave birth to you - a woman." I note how that this is only one woman and that I don't extrapolate any respect I have for her to every other woman on the planet - just by virtue of also being a woman.

Yes, I've come across that bizarre phenomenon, its amazing how they can be all “i'm an individual don't judge me by my gender” one minuet and then part of this vast network of mystically interconnected female conciousness the next ...... more like the Borg collective if you ask me.