Thread: LTNS - Hatemail!

It's been a while since I've had any hatemail so you can probably imagine I was quite excited to open my inbox this morning to find some.

Quote from damianaOO@yahoo.com

Seriously... hate women much?

I don't get why men would be so angry with women unless they really believe that women should be seen and fucked and used/abused and not heard and have no rights.....in other words, go back to the bedroom and kitchen and stay there. Which if that's what you think then you're simply a fool and a sicko.
You're not the ones throughout history repeatedly abused, oppressed, raped and killed simply because you have a vagina instead of a penis! You're not half the population but treated like 3rd classes citizens throughout history and the world....so why so angry at women just because they want freedom to choose their own lives/paths and not be oppressed or abused?

Because really this website is all about hate...you can mask it, paint it up, add fancy rhetoric or historical factoids's but really, it's about hating women and being SO angry with them you cannot contain your vitriol and since you cannot go around beating or killing women legally, you do this. Otherwise I don't get the delusion.


Who hurt you SO bad that you ended up hating women and feeling like they are so worthless that they don't deserve your respect whatsoever throughout history???
Who did this to you? I'm sorry you were hurt so bad that you lost respect, even a modicum of it for women.
I'm sorry for that because I know some moms can be abusive and some girlfriends can be manipulative and shitty. I hope you heal, otherwise you'll continue to spread this misogyny and hatred and teach others to hate, which only perpetuates more violence against the other.

Cause I don't see the point of it....really. Peace.

I was a bit rushed while I read it, so I put a quick reply:

Quote from me

"Which if that's what you think then..." - that's not remotely what AM members believe. You're a bit stupid if you think that.

Read the site, then shout your retarded mouth off... oh, and do it on the site instead of hiding behind email. Go on, woman-up and grow some ovaries.

This really shows the level of intellect we're dealing with..
You're not the ones throughout history repeatedly abused, oppressed, raped and killed simply because you have a vagina instead of a penis!
This is perhaps the most 'captain obvious' moment I've seen in ages. No, I'm not any of the above and I don't have a vagina.. Duh.

Quote from dumbass

What are you talking about, hah...hiding behind email?? First off you're hiding behind a website...no difference. I have NO problem confronting issues, talking about them, researching, admitting I'm wrong AND learning new things. I'm VERY smart, often impress men too sometimes Not retarded unless someone hasn't been honest :P

BUT I thought you had to be a man to join that site so I didn't? Why would you want me, a woman, on that site? Really.....you'd just attack me. I'll read it again but from what I already read I don't think I was wrong....sounded VERY angry towards women and the liberation of women from oppression, like it wasn't justified.

Did you read my email carefully or just react emotionally? I asked some legit questions in there? (made one error when I wrote..."You're not half the population" I meant to write..." We're half the population but treated..." oops!

What's really scary is that you have the exact same name spelling and last name initial as my brother. I was like wtf when I saw your email?? Because he's a total gentle man, couldn't imagine him feeling this way but he might. Whew!!!

Anyways....I will read it again but I think I brought up some good points. I just don't get men who are anti-feminist. But then there are some who liked the old paradigm and would rather it not have changed...because obviously, it served them to be in control that much.

Because really, feminism even with it's misinterpretations and mistakes made as people figured it out, the way mistakes are made in EVERY liberation or social movement, is still a good premise. Period.

Thanks!


Oh I think the root of the problem you're experiencing is....misogyny begets misandry. Literally, I do believe
that if women were not subjugated and beaten and oppressed and raped so systematically throughout the world and throughout history(fact not fiction), there wouldn't be such hatred against men. It is this that begets this resentment you speak of. How could it not? Understand that and you will understand angry women.

There would be no need. It is TRULY a woman's* nature to love....really, innate. It is only those women who finally have enough of what's going on who throw in the proverbial towel of tolerance and begin to resent men that become like this, after experiencing and witnessing years of tyranny of men over women, wanting me to change, to be kinder and make space for us who finally become angry. Even if they did not themselves experience oppression, like myself, there is a solidarity, a deep desire to see all women free from that kind of oppression and abuse. I don't make up reality, I just acknowledge it and the limitations we have created as humans.

Just like people sympathizing with liberation of other groups they are not a part of or experience.....you wish the same for them, freedom. *Women don't want to dominate men....they don't want to abuse or control you, just don't want to be controlled. Period.

*They=most or other generalizations of lump populations....(does not apply to all as there are always exceptions to the rule and rogue characters who deviate).

What are you talking about, hah...hiding behind email?? First off you're hiding behind a website...no difference.
My views are public and open to scrutiny - yours are hidden behind a wall. Big difference.

I have NO problem confronting issues, talking about them, researching, admitting I'm wrong AND learning new things. I'm VERY smart...
Your reliance on shaming tactics when confronted with a site you don't "like" seems to suggest quite the contrary of everything you've said above.

BUT I thought you had to be a man to join that site so I didn't? Why would you want me, a woman, on that site? Really.....you'd just attack me.
Again, you clearly didn't go through the site very well at all and obviously struggle to comprehend the URL title, let alone any of the posts, articles, blogs and threads. Nowhere does it state nor imply that women aren't allowed or only men are welcomed. Your inability to comprehend is not MY problem.

I'll read it again but from what I already read I don't think I was wrong....sounded VERY angry towards women and the liberation of women from oppression, like it wasn't justified.
Funny that, because your angry emails strongly suggest that you don't like the idea of men speaking up against sexism promoted largely by the feminist movement... as if we should just 'shut up and take it'. Your ignorance of historical of oppression against men AND women alike, instead opting to pretend only women were oppressed is your problem to deal with, not mine.

Did you read my email carefully or just react emotionally? I asked some legit questions in there?
No, actually I didn't - I couldn't be blessed with it. I am reading this one though as I fancy a giggle.

Anyways....I will read it again but I think I brought up some good points. I just don't get men who are anti-feminist. But then there are some who liked the old paradigm and would rather it not have changed...because obviously, it served them to be in control that much.
Equally, I don't get women or men who are pro-feminist. But the, there are some who like the current misandry and female domination of men, children, family and government policies which systematically marginalize men at just about every opportunity... because obviously, it serves them to be in control that much.

Because really, feminism even with it's misinterpretations and mistakes made as people figured it out, the way mistakes are made in EVERY liberation or social movement, is still a good premise. Period.
So you think demanding superior health-care of women at the expense of every other group is a good premise? You think that when women rape & get away with it is a good premise? You think that women typically receive 40% less time in jail for identical crimes is a good premise? You think women who sexually mutilate men for wanting a divorce is a good premise? You think...?
I suspect you know pretty much ... very little about the real history of men & women, instead you've listened to some feminist claims, taken them as gospel without investigating the claims and learned to believe only men had it good in old days and only women were victims. Well, gee, that's VERY "smart" of you.

Oh I think the root of the problem you're experiencing is....misogyny begets misandry.
Maybe it's the other way around, perhaps misandry begets misogyny.

Literally, I do believe that if women were not subjugated and beaten and oppressed and raped so systematically throughout the world and throughout history(fact not fiction), there wouldn't be such hatred against men. It is this that begets this resentment you speak of. How could it not? Understand that and you will understand angry women.
So let's assume you're right - you're justifying hatred of today's men for the wrong doing of yesterday's men. Why, gee, that's VERY "smart" of you. Shall we hate today's German people? How about all white people? That would be just as VERY smart of you.
Regardless, it isn't 'fact'. All people, men & women alike, were subjugated and beaten and oppressed and even raped systematically by the elites of society. Until the rise of feminism, men have always protected and idolized women. It must be such a hateful person who looks at the adoring gaze of a man and call him an oppressor. There has never been a gender-war until feminism reared it's disgusting head and began systematic hate-campaigns against all men, half the world's population.

There would be no need. It is TRULY a woman's* nature to love....really, innate. It is only those women who finally have enough of what's going on who throw in the proverbial towel of tolerance and begin to resent men that become like this, after experiencing and witnessing years of tyranny of men over women, wanting me to change, to be kinder and make space for us who finally become angry. Even if they did not themselves experience oppression, like myself, there is a solidarity, a deep desire to see all women free from that kind of oppression and abuse. I don't make up reality, I just acknowledge it and the limitations we have created as humans.
" I don't make up reality" You just did. You clearly have an extremely narrow understanding of history.

Just like people sympathizing with liberation of other groups they are not a part of or experience.....you wish the same for them, freedom. *Women don't want to dominate men....they don't want to abuse or control you, just don't want to be controlled. Period.
Like it or lump it, there are a good number of women who do want to abuse & dominate men. Equally, there are a good number of men who want to abuse & dominate women... The difference is, our current laws enable women's abuses & domination of men and men are afforded no legal recourse. Even when men are killed, women have a 'get out of jail' card issued to them by feminists.

Anyway, I shall not be posting any more of your ill-educated waffle... if you have the ovaries, do so yourself... but I suspect you'll continue hiding in email (which I shall be adding to my ignore-list).