This is a discussion on fan-mail from youtube within the Feminist Flipside forums, part of the General category; It's been a while since I received any fem-fan-mail, so thought I'd share this with you. It pertains to my ...
It's been a while since I received any fem-fan-mail, so thought I'd share this with you. It pertains to my youtube account, which has videos on misandry, wage gap (myth) and violence against.
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I am sending you this because I feel it is neccessary, please take the time to read it and reply, it would be much appreciated.
Ok, you think men are smarter and better than women? Yes, men are so much better than women, thats why they start illegal wars [TO THE DEMISE OF YOU], commit genocide [regularly], control your movements and thoughts via the State, murder their families and rape their own fellow soldiers. Speaking of soldiers, you do know that this race of men you idolise [i.e. George Bush] are infecting 'your boys' with Depleted Uranium? Look it up on youtube, see exactly what you're gender is doing themselves and see how beautiful you think they are then.
Jesus, do you not have any compassion or love at all?
And how can you generalise like that?
Women are individuals, but if you wanna make each group of people a homogenous group, then great, all the better, because the amount of terrible, terrible things 'you're' gender has done, is unthinkable. It's unreal.
How can you hold so much hate for women? It's really disturbing.
What do you think Feminism exists for? Because women got bored one day and decided to 'create' it? No, it's from all the suffering women have endured under this patriarchal society and at the hands of men! Likewise, why do you think Anarchy exists? Because people are treated like nothing and are surveilled and oppressed under a Capitalist state. People don't create their own sorrow, people will try to change it.
What is it that you don't understand about being Human? We are all HUMAN!
You are no better than a woman, no better.
Treat every person you meet as a human
Treat every woman you meet as a human [who is her own person]
Same with men [which I'm sure you already do, being as fair as you are]
Same with blacks
Same with everybody!
The moment you release your contempt, the second you release all the anger that you've mustered up into this fictional ball of fury [for no reason aside from you being a man] I tell you, you will be the happiest human alive when you accept that those women, those horrible little females you so despise are as smart, as alive, as full of feelings and thoughts as you are.
You will become a Human.
And besides, Feminism is for the better of humankind.
It's only because the world rejected it and further abused women that it's evolved into such things as seperatism etc, do you not think that if men had empathy for women about, I don't know, the HUGE amount of injustice commited against them then maybe women would be thankful and not wanting to literally not even live with men anymore.
It's weird how you pin all the blame on women and completely forget men, as if they're messiah's and God's who do no wrong. And, omg, this apparent domestic abuse that men go through is NOTHING, and don't even try and tell me it isn't NOTHING. It's not at all like when women are literally beaten by their husbands. For no reason, mind you.
Women are your sisters, as well, they are not your opposites or your enemies.
Every human is created to become a Human. Not a gender.
As Anti-Flag say, you are human first, and gendered second.
Think about what message you put across as a male when you say this.
Think about the effect you make on girls, on women, on females when you say this.
Think about what you are feeling and why you are feeling it.
Direct your hatred somewhere else, like at the police who are creating a police state around you but seemingly hating women is a lot more of a priority for you.
You know what, right now, go type in 'I hate men' or 'Anti-men' and see how many videos you get. Nada or a measly 1. You know why this is?
Because men hate women from the second they are born and they don't care if a woman gave birth to them, they don't care if all around them women are being tortured and objectified around them, your particular group of men see it all as a personal attack on their suffering in this world. As if women are taking the first prize for being the worst treated.
I know it's hard for you to completely empathise with a woman's situation and place in the world because, at the end of the day, you are a man, but look around you every day.
Look at the language we have, e.g. God is a man in most religions, 'history' - His story, huMAN, woMAN, every life form is referred to as male if it's unknown, women playwrights have been wiped from history, women can't vote in Saudi Arabia, women hit glass ceilings at basically all high powered jobs, women are raped, female babies are disposed of in China and put into 'Dying Rooms'.
I don't know if you're angry right now about this.
Or if you're on my side, if you are, then welcome.
If you aren't then carry on being the same old man that women have encountered thousands of times.
Choose the path you think is right.
I dont' have a copy of my reply, but it went to this effect:
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"Ok, you think men are smarter and better than women?"
No, I've never said that ever. However, feminism 'claims' to be pro-equality while in reality it's actions clearly demonstrate it is about supremacy with it's bashing of everything male.
As you lied about me in your first lines, I see no point reading the rest of this rant.
Toodles.
Out of the gloom a voice spake unto me. 'Smile and be happy, Things could get worse."
So I smiled and was happy, and behold... Things did get worse.
I had a quick look at her profile, and noticed that under "favourites" - she has videos with titles such as "How to circumcise a baby boy from home" and "How to dress like a serial killer".
Hence it is undeniable - she is a freakin' nutcase!
Gee, its good to have fans. Nice to see that the vitriol fringe is still alive and well and putting the lie to the idea that feminism is becoming a spent force.
Judging from her sentence construction and organisation of ideas, she is well into her Womyn's Studies Degree, a Batchelorette of Spleen. (BS to you).
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I have tried all my life to leave the place better than I found it.
But there are 6 billion other buggers out there messing it up.
Next You should point out to her how she tells you not to generalize women then does it to men in the same sentance. You could also point out while she is claiming you are being hateful to women she is also spouting man hate.
Chevalier.
"no greater love hath a man than to lay down his life for his brother."
Wow, this sicko(girlo) really knows who I am,better than myself:
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Erm.Ok.
What you really mean is you won't read it.
Not you didn't.
You won't.
T.S
So I replied...
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Once again, *you* are telling me what *I* apparently think, when *you* apparently have no concept what runs through my mind.
Try to avoid projecting on me, and maybe I'll spend a few minutes trying to understand your POV, but while someone else tells me what I think/say/do, forget it.
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Out of the gloom a voice spake unto me. 'Smile and be happy, Things could get worse."
So I smiled and was happy, and behold... Things did get worse.
Treat every person you meet as a human
Treat every woman you meet as a human [who is her own person]
Same with men [which I'm sure you already do, being as fair as you are]
Same with blacks
Same with everybody!
What the.....sounds to me as if she wants to say we should "even" treat blacks as humans. As if blacks arenīt human.
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The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,
but only misandry--whether from females or from males.
If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.
That depends on your definition. If you mean the 'proper' definition (hatred of women) then no, not at all. If you mean the feminist defition (dare to speak out against feminist lies of man-bashing and hate, speak positively about men, not accepting without solid & unbias proof hateful 'studies', etc. etc.) then yes, I guess I am. But, I prefer the proper definition of misogyny and know - as well as most women in my life know, that no I'm not one.
Are you a misandrist?
Out of the gloom a voice spake unto me. 'Smile and be happy, Things could get worse."
So I smiled and was happy, and behold... Things did get worse.
Why?
You made a perfectly good response right off the bat.
Why is there ANY further response or recognition of your new sweetie?
Unless, of course, you're just keepin' it barely "real" enough to goad
needless consumption of cupcake's time and resources.
Keeps 'em off the street I suppose.
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you are better than me marx
that bitch would have got a lone star verbal beatdown from me with no holds barred
that bitch is dumb as hell
why is it all the WRONG bitches choose not to abort
her dad should have kicked her mom down the stairs when he heard the good news nd said "congratulations"
20th-July-2008
