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endabuse.urgh uhm - .org

An incredibly sexist .org exists by the name of endabuse.org (or, in their case - .urgh)

Anyway, I was rather upset. I loaded my classic messenger ICQ only to be confronted by a sponsored ad from endabuse.org highlighting how evil men & boys while women & girls are victims... the poor lambs.

So I emailed them, with an invitation:

Credit due, in the past they have responded to emails - yet they still fail to even acknowledge female abusers, even of children.

Here's my email:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl via email
Dear Miss Andrist,

I’ve emailed with you before, and requested that you take into account that women abuse – at many levels – yet still you focus entirely on men & boys, implying strongly that women are somehow exempt of responsibility for any abuse they inflict, not that they do, of course, the sweet innocent lambs.

However, due to your ignorance and continual hatred towards men, in the form of harmful stereotypes and general bigotry, I’d like to present some information for you to chew on – so you can reflect “The ‘real’ world” on your website, instead of the feminist version of man=bad/woman=good/victim/oppressed/blah blah etc.


http://forum.mathews.me.uk/viewtopic.php?p=4256#4256

The above thread highlights that women are the majority perpetrators of child killings, and that boys were the largest group to be killed by these sweet innocent lambs, specifically if the sweet innocent lamb was his mother. Similarly, when a male killed one of his parents, it was roughly split down the middle whether said parent was the mother or the father. However, the sweet innocent lambs, or daughters, killed their father some 80% of the time. In fact, if you look at the url within the thread, it also gives mention that women account for 41% of killers within family situations. Not quite the same picture you portray, is it? So, as you can see here, unless you resort to ‘blaming the victim’ mentality, which you wouldn’t of course, as you’re so dead against that level of insults (aren’t you?), females are most definitely targeting males in their hate – whereas men do not seem to be doing so. Again, not quite the picture you portray to the gullible public, is it?


http://forum.mathews.me.uk/viewtopic.php?p=2147#2147

This thread breaks down the lies, similar to ones you rely on, that “…every year, domestic and dating violence is responsible for the death of as many women every five years as died in The Vietnam War.” Not only is this incredibly disrespectful to the victims of the Vietnam War, but it is also a plain, misandric lie that again perpetuates hateful and harmful stereotypes of outrageous proportion. Let’s not forget too, the by far vast majority of those killed within the Vietnam War were those evil patriarchs: Men. Men who fought with their lives, while people like you sat at home cooking up new lies to project at the gullible public about how evil men are.


http://forum.mathews.me.uk/viewtopic.php?p=2129#2129

A thread pertaining to Straus’ work is above, as well as a link to his own spoken words in mp3 format. He discusses how VAWA tried to omit male victims, who accounted for 36% - this tallies with findings in England as well, which estimated male victims of abuse at 35%. I realise this is highly upsetting for you to comprehend, as it does not tie in with your feminist misandry, but still, it is true. The writer of this article refers to your gender-goggles as the elephant everyone tries politely to ignore. What is your take on this? Why do you insist that only women and girls can be victims and only boys & men require ‘coaching’?


http://forum.mathews.me.uk/viewtopic.php?p=1140#1140

Child maltreatment & abuse is an issue that the media and feminists (often tied together) pretend is an issue whereby Fathers, or other male relatives, commit the majority of. However, the above thread reflects data confirming what many men (not necessarily antifeminists or Men’s Rights Activists – but ordinary family men) know already; women commit the majority of child abuse & maltreatment. I can vouch for this on a personal level with experience prior to turning against feminism’s lies. My ex, the mother of two of my daughters, would repeatedly smack my eldest daughter around the back of her head. She wasn’t doing anything wrong; her only crime was to be ‘annoying’ her mother. Now, perhaps you’ll want to cast me personally as an abuser here, I made the mistake of avoiding contact with social services – whereas I should have reported the abuse, I warned her repeatedly “You hit my daughter again, and I’ll hit you!” She ignored me and continued to smack my daughter for a while longer…until I smacked her around the back of her head in defence of my daughter. I did not hit her hard enough to cause tears or marks – unlike her attacks on my daughter; instead it was a warning shot. It worked. To my knowledge, she no longer abuses my daughter. I’m just one man, I wonder how many other Fathers could relate to this and say with truth and honesty “Yes, my wife/girlfriend is trigger happy with her hands too…” So, I ask, why do you enable abuse of children by ignoring it? To ignore is effectively to condone, and here you are marginalizing women’s abuse of children while demanding that boys & men be ‘coached’. Why are not you interested in coaching women & girls to have better coping skills, just as you pretend to be interested in men & boys?

As a child, my mother was fairly harsh in her punishments, and seeing a grown woman hitting child is despicable. It is the ultimate in cowardice. Seeing a grown man doing it is equally as bad, however, far less frequent. When will women take responsibility for the cowardly abuses they inflict on defenceless children? I don’t know – but I suspect while people like you exist, to perpetuate lies & misinformation, it will be a long time away indeed.

Being the ‘strong, independent woman’ you clearly are I hope you can drop into the forum (membership required to due to spam deterrent) and resolve the blatant hypocrisy you seem intent on spewing forth. Tell me, if you’d be so kind, I’ve read accounts of feminists whereby they clearly have issues with their mothers and seem to consider their father as ‘under the thumb’, is this your case too? Did you grow up with a hateful mother, and taught you to be hateful?

Just curious.


Regards,

Karl Mathews


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Good work karl

I wonder if this invitation will be taken up

Or ignored like the rest :roll:

Watch this space...



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Good work karl

I wonder if this invitation will be taken up

Or ignored like the rest :roll:

Watch this space...
I bet it'll be ignored.


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