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Men and women working - The American Time Use Survey

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    Men and women working - The American Time Use Survey


    A warning, this post is all about numbers. If this is not your kind of thing, skip this one.

    This is a recurring topic and a myth that is in the media every now and then. A woman's work is never done and while she has a career, she still has to do most of the housework while hubby does nothing more than sitting on the couch watching TV. Luckily, the Bureau of Labour Statistics has counted the amount of minutes, men and women work so we can see how fair men and women share their work.

    About this Survey:
    American Time Use Survey

    Data collection for the ATUS began in January 2003. Sample cases for the survey are selected monthly and interviews are conducted continuously throughout the year. In 2008, approximately 12,700 individuals were interviewed. Estimates are released annually.
    I drew all numbers from table 3. Using these columns.
    House - Household Activities
    Care1 - Caring for and helping household members
    Care2 - Caring for and helping non-household members
    Work - Work and work-related activities
    Edu - Educational activities
    A first look.
    Time spent in primary activities (1) for the civilian population by age, sex, race, Hispanic or Latino ethnicity, marital status, and educational attainment, 2008 annual averages

    Average hours per day spent in primary activities (2)

    House Care1 Care2 Work Edu Sum
    Men, 15 years and over...... 1.30 .36 .18 4.52 .30 6.66
    Women, 15 years and over.... 2.13 .70 .27 2.99 .52 6.61
    Very obvious, the average man works more, while the average woman does more childcare and housework. In total not much of a difference (men working 3 minutes more).

    A closer look.
    House Care1 Care2 Work Edu Sum
    Marital status and sex:
    Married, spouse present.... 2.01 .76 .23 4.06 .10 7.16
    Men....................... 1.50 .55 .18 4.94 .06 7.23
    Women..................... 2.53 .97 .29 3.16 .15 7.10
    Other marital statuses..... 1.40 .27 .22 3.35 .90 6.14
    Men....................... 1.05 .12 .19 3.98 .88 6.22
    Women..................... 1.70 .41 .25 2.82 .91 6.09
    Again we have a small difference with a little bit more workload for men. One could argue that I should have taken "Purchasing goods and services" into account which of course includes buying groceries for the family. While this is true I could argue that his also includes personal shoppings, nail, tanning and hair salons, which, taking a wild guess here, women spend more time with than men. But before we start bickering about numbers, even when we include them in total the difference is between 11-12 minutes this time with slightly more workload for women.

    I have seen another take on this issue. Sometimes an analysis focuses on leisure time and we see men having more leisure time than women. This is true for this survey as well. Now we know there is not that much of a difference when it comes to the daily grind. So why do women have less leisure time? A look at the other columns:
    Personal - Personal care activities
    Shop - Purchasing goods and services
    Eat - Eating and drinking
    Org - Organisational, civic and religious activities
    Tele - Telephon calls, mails and e-mails
    Leisure - Leisure and sports

    Average hours per day spent in primary activities (2)

    Personal Eat Shop Org Tele Other Leisure Sum
    Men, 15 years and over...... 9.22 1.28 .60 .30 .14 .17 5.52 17.23
    Women, 15 years and over.... 9.55 1.18 .92 .37 .28 .24 4.86 17.40

    Marital status and sex:
    Married, spouse present.... 9.11 1.32 .82 .40 .16 .21 4.81 16.83
    Men....................... 8.92 1.39 .65 .38 .10 .17 5.17 16.78
    Women..................... 9.31 1.26 .99 .43 .22 .25 4.44 16.90
    Other marital statuses..... 9.71 1.12 .71 .26 .27 .19 5.60 17.86
    Men....................... 9.61 1.15 .54 .20 .18 .16 5.96 17.80
    Women..................... 9.81 1.10 .85 .31 .35 .22 5.30 17.94
    Time differences here between 7 and 10 minutes. Also we can see that difference in leisure time is not a result of unfair distribution of work. Interestingly the above confirms many stereotypes. Men spend more time eating and doing sports and other leisure activities, while women take more time for personal care, shopping, chatting with others as well as religious and civic activities. Of course one can again argue that shopping doesn't belong in there as grocery shopping can be considered housework, but then again, the difference is just a few minutes.

    In conclusion we can say, besides the myths, men and women in the USA are able to share their workload fairly. While of course there will be male couch potatoes and overworked wifes (as well as the other way round), this is not true for the average couple.


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    Re: Men and women working - The American Time Use Survey

    The global, aggregate figures are clear enough, feckless, but I think that the almost total inclusivity of 'over 15' tends to hide where significant variations might well occur.

    Is there a breakdown you can provide showing 15 - 20; 21-30; 31-40 etc ?

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    Re: Men and women working - The American Time Use Survey

    If you follow the link to the original data you will find more breakdowns.

    I didnīt include them because a) it would take a lot of time to format those and b) I really didnīt spot much unexpected variations.

    Also AM fucked that formating up, so you might want to read this on my blog.
    The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,
    but only misandry--whether from females or from males.
    If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.
    Glenn Sacks
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    http://antimisandry.com/109272-post69.html

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    http://feck-blog.blogspot.com/

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    http://antimisandry.com/chit-chat-ma...ile-16039.html

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