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As Promised! BTL4 - Where Would You Hide - The TRUTH!

Not sure if any of you check out YouTube, read my blogs, SYG, or even know who I am but...

A while back the MSPCC (Massachusetts Society for the something or other) put out an very defaming PSA about fathers and child abuse. This ad, brought to the attention of many readers by Glenn Sacks and MND, essentially implied, once again, through MISinformation, that all fathers are brutish abusers; specifically that of children.

Note that Glenn & Co. called for the removal and he and a few other men of noteworthiness through their own channels were able to get the PSA removed from the television. I comment him for his victory for lack of a better word.

BUT! The damage is done…

And, of course this garbage is still prevalent on the internet.....

Furthermore, Glenn called for us MRAs NOT to bombard them with emails etc because they "had done the right thing" by removing the ad.

Maybe so, but let’s say a person drove over your favorite pet, caused by their own stupidity or recklessness and not just an honest accident. They, “doing the right thing” paid the costs ensued and even went as far as to purchase you a NEW pet…

Would you be all cuddly and palsy-walsy with them now? Of course not. You would still have anger, sadness, and feel angst towards them at some level. In other words, the images of your pet being killed at the hands of a reckless act (such as the likes of MISinformation) is STILL embedded in your mind. The feelings are still in your heart. The pain and anger is still there. Sure, time will heal but…. The image(s) are now there…true or not.

The damage is done…..

By the way, did you notice how I used non-gender specifics above? See? It is actually quite easy to do!

Back to my tirade. I for one disagree with Glenn. Respectfully of course, but none-the-less disagree still. If just one person saw that ad, believed the bull, and now views all fathers as the prevailing child abusers in the home, then the ad did what it was supposed to do and we are once again evil monsters. And I truly believe that this WAS what the intention of the PSA all along.

Sure, one could say that the ad was really about child abuse as a whole. But when the gender of the perp is specifically a male actor, specifically labeled a “father” or “dad”. You get the message. It would have been very easy for them to just use the word “parent” and still get the message out. Yes, this message needs to get out, I do not argue that point what-so-ever. But they chose agenda over the children, per se instead.

The damage is done….

Arguably, this PSA was geared specifically towards Massachusetts. The numbers, albeit slightly correct (for that year), were seriously lacking and MISguiding. As we all say, ‘cherry picking’ to prove your point painfully to an agenda. And taking that side intentionally to MISlead when the overall facts are COMPLETELY different is dishonest in the least. To ignore the real facts, because they support the opposite of your agenda, in the least should be criminal. How many ways can I say it…

When I see media like this, I battle within myself as to what I should do about it. I want to be active because I care; and yes, sometimes, angry about it. But I also have very little time to pee, let alone do these videos that I must confess, are a tad cumbersome to produce. It’s the researching part that gets to me. I get so downtrodden when I read, re-read, and yet read again how fathers are monsters and mothers are better than sliced bread! It gets to me. I get angry, depressed, and then angry again…. Vicious cycle. A cycle that I place myself within time and time again because I feel that if one doesn’t do SOMETHING, then they have no real basis to piss-n-moan.

Anyhow, this one was just a days (ok evenings) work and I believe well worth the effort. I already had the REAL facts, all I needed to do was recreate the “slides” and do a little remove/insert action. Adjust the timing, add a few additional CORRECT facts, tape myself playing twinkle twinkle on my keyboards, compile it and viola! Remember, this was an easy one!

Legally, I am probably wrong by using THEIR PSA with my CORRECT and easily locatable data. But sometimes, ya just gottah say fuck it. They need to be called upon their lies. Sure, it was removed from the Television, but it is still all over the net…. And folks are touting this as fact with epic proportions! BULLSHIT I SAY!

So that is my tangent. Here is my response video to the Massholes, and to those on YouTube that tout this garbage as fact…. Enjoy.

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Re: As Promised! BTL4 - Where Would You Hide - The TRUTH!

Awesome video content there, well composed and all... excellent.








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You're a real example to all of us MOTS


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Well, I wouldn't go THAT far Knight but thanks! Just doing my part...

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Yes we know who you are TMOTS. A worthy warrior. Have a cigar!

And you are right on several counts. The damage is done. Glenn is a great warrior too but he is trying a different strategy which confuses a lot of us.

The ads coming out of Mass are wicked. The people who are instigating them know full well that they will get protest and do not care. It is taxpayers money, not theirs, and 'Hit and Run' is their current tactic. They sow the seeds and then say sorry! Hah.

These people stay in position while the ads are pulled, and go right on procucing more ads at public expense. More damage. It adds up.

My solution is the sword. Cut their heads off and parade them on a pole. The more technologically enlightened meanwhile, like yourself, can counter with vids and the like. Good show Sir. Others might take to sewing of a different kind and send Darren the Tailor around to fit these lying bastards with a Full Metal Jacket. They do very tidy buttonholes.



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And you are right on several counts. The damage is done. Glenn is a great warrior too but he is trying a different strategy which confuses a lot of us.
Agreed Percy.

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Great video TMOTS. Keep up the excellent work. It's appreciated.


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i said it before-and i will say it again

there ain't no place to hide


 
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Furthermore, Glenn called for us MRAs NOT to bombard them with emails etc because they "had done the right thing" by removing the ad.

Sacks wouldn't want you to shoot the bastards either. He's a milquetoast.

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My solution is the sword. Cut their heads off and parade them on a pole....... Others might take to sewing of a different kind and send Darren the Tailor around to fit these lying bastards with a Full Metal Jacket. They do very tidy buttonholes.

Teeheehee. Aren't I TERAble. A naughty Percy.


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Teeheehee. Aren't I TERAble. A naughty Percy.
Indeed. But we luvs our Sir Knight!

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