Parents' Rights Activist Endures 108 Days Without Eating, protests against family law

[Tyrael]

This article is from mensactivism.org:

Parents' Rights Activist Endures 108 Days Without Eating

Documentary 'Support? System Down' to Include AKidsRight.org Founder John Murtari

11/16/2006 11:43:00 AM

Contact: Teri Stoddard of A Kid's Right, 925-628-1206 or teri@akidsright.org

SYRACUSE, N.Y., Nov. 16 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Angelo Lobo, producer of "Support? System Down" will be arriving in Syracuse today, Nov. 16, to film John Murtari, founder of AKidsRight.org, in the Onondaga County Justice Center, on his 108th day with no solid food.

"John's story is special in that he has taken a stand against a system that desperately needs reform, on a national level," said Lobo, "He is a voice for thousands who are being incarcerated against their constitutional rights."

Murtari, 50, an Air Force Academy graduate, was sentenced to six months incarceration for willful failure to pay child support, a charge he disputes. Inspired by Gandhi, Murtari started the parents' organization AKidsRight.org and has been advocating for a Family Rights Act.

"The child support system is broken; their information is too frequently not accurate or complete," said Jane Spies of the National Family Justice Association. "If an honorable man like John can get locked up, anyone can," she continued, "How does this help his son? Why does his son have to suffer the loss of a loving father?"

Murtari urges parents who want change in family law to demonstrate faith, love and personal sacrifice, and to participate in peaceful protest. He once climbed the art structure in front of the Federal Building and displayed a large banner in his quest to get a meeting with Senator Clinton. Murtari stopped eating July 31, the day he reported to jail. "John is a hero to parents around the world," said Spies.

Lobo has interviewed parents across the country who have said it's time for change in family law. "This is the new civil rights movement," said Teri Stoddard, "Parents are demanding truth, justice and equality. They want their constitutional rights upheld."

Everyone is encouraged to join the AKidsRight.org mailing list xhttp://www.akidsright.org/register/sign-up.php4

Murtari will be released on Dec. 1, and his first priority, is visiting his son.

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Bollocks to dumb assed shit like that! Starve yourself so a bunch of slapper women who have hijacked the fathers groups can use you for sympathy points because they cant get access to their grandkids?

Better to tell the silly twat to get himself a good meal, buy himself a semtex vest and blow the ****ers apart..

If you wanna die, why not take some of the parasites down with you!

"Peaceful" protests are A WASTE OF ****ING TIME!!!

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Better to tell the silly twat to get himself a good meal, buy himself a semtex vest and blow the ****ers apart..

If you wanna die, why not take some of the parasites down with you!

"Peaceful" protests are A WASTE OF ****ING TIME!!![/quote]


That is the most idiotic statment I have ever read on this forum, Drex. Such action only supports ridicule and bias already used against men. Furthermore, such statements can be used by feminist organizations and activists to slander the men's movement.

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Boo hoo! Like I give a gnats chuff what the femi-slaverers think!

I was making a metaphoric point..

Too many of these "equal parenting" groups are run by slapper mums and femiboys who really are little differrent to the feminists in reality..

So you think starving yourself to death is smart and will make a difference?

I think its dumb, and is just as easy for the femi-nazi's to use as a means to ridicule..

This is a war you dont win by pointless suicidal gestures and looking for sympathy.. None is gonna be coming from the feminazi's and you should know that..

[Marx]

Perhaps he isn't looking for sympathy from feminists.
Maybe he is looking to bring a spotlight on what he believes to be an unjust and broken system, one which I agree with.

[KellyMac]

John Murtari has my undying admiration. He truly has the courage of his convictions. The only thing that astonishes me is the fact that the court has allowed it to go on this long.

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Cant see why you would be astonished that the courts are happy to see a good man self destruct..

The suicide toll is often mentioned by mens groups, and its a well known fact of life that men driven to despair and hopelessness are taking their own lives..

This is more likely to be used by the enemy as evidence that these men are basically unstable and unfit for parenting than anything else as you all aught to know..

A dead father cant do much of any use to his kids can he?

And a few more numbers on the suicide toll wont change anything..

In this case, the bloke may be think he is making a great gesture, but in my view it is irresponsible of the parent groups to encourage this sort of thing because its ultimately condoning self abuse and encouraging copying of such strategies, that dont work anyway..

To understand how ineffective such protests are against the enemy you have to put yourself in their mindset..

They will be thinking one of two things I suspect..

The mans a nutter who is trying to kill himself, thus proving his usuitability for fatherhood anyway, thus validating the decisions to push him out of his kids life..

Or, the bloke has no intention of going the whole way to death by starvation, but is playing the attention and sympathy game.. This will lead to attention being directed at a bloke who is basically going to be still classified as above..

These protests dont change a thing, dont put any fear into any hearts and will forever be ignored by the enemy..

Until their are casualties in the ranks of the enemies and not in our own, then they wont give a damn..

Sorry if you dont agree with my take on it, but self-destruction is not smart, especially when it does not in any way bring the enemy down..

This has been done before in the UK and it went down very badly, I would have thought lessons had been learnt..

I dont rate EP groups anyway, especially those dominated by women, and especially women who have hardly been an example of anything other than how to be a feminist abuser of fathers all your life then try and backtrack when you find you cant see your grandkids!

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I understand where you're coming from, Drex. Let me tell you where I'm coming from.

We must reach the hearts and minds of everyone but the enemy. The majority of people in the Western world are willing to listen to logic and facts. There may be some initial resisitance but, with persistence, they will cave in.

You are right: the enemy does not care if one more man dies! They will slander him and use him as an excuse to slander all men. This cannot be helped. But what this man is doing is admirable because it's an act of passive resistance which does not threaten the physical well being of anyone else. People will, and do, care. Especially when others like us stand by him and support him, and shout in the faces of the obtuse populace. Mr. Murtari is giving us good press! This is ammunition we can use against sckeptics (sp?).

Forget about the enemy and focus on the People. They are not merely sheep! Just look in the mirror and you'll understand. They are free, thinking, autonomous individuals whom must be informed. I know that many on this forum use it as a means to vent and gain validity for their emotions. It is an invaluable service in that regard and I appologize if I had offended you earlier.

But here is my point: if you think the enemy will turn Mr. Mutari into a bullet, what do you think they will do with what you said earlier? That statement can easliy be taken out of context and used against us. That's all I am saying. That was my fear.

Again I appologize if I offended you earlier.

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No worries istoute.. Understand what you are saying and from that perspective it may be fine..

Unfortunately or (fortunately depending on how you look at it!), I am slightly the worse for wear on the old mental health front at times..

To me, "poor mental health" seems to afflict a lot of people, and its paradoxical that many of the folk that some would say are "insane" are other folks heroes..

I have a paranoid outlook on society, and especially when it concerns the feminazi's..

I dont trust them at all and I see how they brainwash everyone into accepting thier own, and only their own, dominant ideologies..

I also see that sometimes the "fathers groups" themselves get suckered into thinking of themselves as "modern suffragettes".. They dont seem to see how ridiculous it is to ape the methods of the feminazi's..

When a group in society feels inferior to a percieved oppressor, maybe they look at how the oppressor has gained their power, and try to copy it..

The feminazi's tried to copy masculinity, but only became truly successful when they used their exclusively female talents..

Likewise, men should not try seeking the sympathy vote, because, the images of men seeking the sympathy vote are "pre-tainted" by such images as Saddam Hussain regretting his past.. Death Row inmates expressing remorse.. etc.. If you know what I mean..

Anyway, i think I should answer a few of your points in turn..

Originally Posted by istoute

I understand where you're coming from, Drex. Let me tell you where I'm coming from.

We must reach the hearts and minds of everyone but the enemy.

I disagree here, because the "enemy" will always be the enemy unless we find a way to effectively communicate with them and bring them, or many of them, round to our way of thinking.. That is not easy and I believe using methods that they can use better, such as sympathy seeking stunts, is a gauranteed loser!

The majority of people in the Western world are willing to listen to logic and facts. There may be some initial resisitance but, with persistence, they will cave in.

Hmm! maybe, but with the feminazi's you are pointing a hairdryer at a hurricane in the hope of reversing the wind direction.. They have a massive volume and are prepared to turn it all the way up, because they have nothing to fear..

You are right: the enemy does not care if one more man dies! They will slander him and use him as an excuse to slander all men. This cannot be helped. But what this man is doing is admirable because it's an act of passive resistance which does not threaten the physical well being of anyone else. People will, and do, care.

Right in the first sentance, the enemy does not care, as for people, since the enemy in my view consists of 90% of the people (the vast majority of whom passivley accept and go along with the feminazi's) its questionable how many of them would think this is a good idea. One important point about "physical well being" is that the feminazi's dont worry too much about that, as you know, they find more value in playing the "emotional harm" card, largely because it is always an unknows and easily exagerated category.. Kids, "will be emotionally damaged very severely by this mans selfish and misguided actions".. Not my own views of course, but a very likely view from the harridens..

Especially when others like us stand by him and support him, and shout in the faces of the obtuse populace. Mr. Murtari is giving us good press! This is ammunition we can use against sckeptics (sp?).

I can support his "need to take action" and agree he is a brave man or whatever, but I do not think it is a wise choice action, and I thoroughly disagree with it being encouraged, because it is setting a very unhealthy example. He could die. Not a good outcome!

Forget about the enemy and focus on the People. They are not merely sheep! Just look in the mirror and you'll understand. They are free, thinking, autonomous individuals whom must be informed. I know that many on this forum use it as a means to vent and gain validity for their emotions. It is an invaluable service in that regard and I appologize if I had offended you earlier.

I wonder how much like sheep the people are or are not,, its rare that they DONT act like sheep in my view!

But here is my point: if you think the enemy will turn Mr. Mutari into a bullet, what do you think they will do with what you said earlier? That statement can easliy be taken out of context and used against us. That's all I am saying. That was my fear.

Again I appologize if I offended you earlier.

Words, are words, they can instill fear and I believe fear is the greatest motivator of 95% of the people.. People dont on the whole reach for the stars, they try and avoid the pitfalls.. Actions, always speak louder than words, unless of course you are in the realm of the Femi-Paranoid, whereby mere words are treated as if they have actually already come to pass..

Actions, such as are done, are in reality always going to be used by the dominant groups against the minorities that are doing them.

Personally, its looks to me like a Jew in a concentration camp protesting against the nazi's by going on humger strike..

Thanks for the apology, nice to know that some gents realise the importance of even those in our ranks with whom we differ, being worthy of a bit of respect! (even if they do sometimes seem to be rather provocative!) Trust me, I do it primarily to stimulate debate, in the hope of finding common ground down the line, not to annoy folk or desparage them..

I resoect the guy taking this actions, but am not happy about those who promote it and who seek to profit from it.. And I think many of the public will think the same way.. Just my view... I suppose we will see in good time..