The family courts fron the fascist point of view.

[nevosopelo]

I have been researching some of the laws which have been implemented in Nazi Germany, with the blessing of Adolf Hitler, over the second half of the 1930's.
I was astonished when I found out that the despoliation, state plundering of the properties and the belonging of the Jews, homosexuals, and other assorted people, was done in the same fashion as it is done today in the English Family Courts, to all those fathers who, for not fault of their own of being a father and a man, are dispossessed of their home, children and life savings.
"Judicial Decree"
This judicial tool was the means used to, literally speaking, dump all undesireables in ghettos outside the city.
The judicial decree is the most undemocratic rule ever deviced. It is usually associated with despotic rulers. Some of them have even been prosecuted for human rights abuses. Yet, in England as the bastion of western democracy, judicial decree is widely used by judges, to stomp over Father's rights, properties and forced hand outs as alimony money to the ex-wife, obliged to keep her pets, and be deprived of his children. How long before fathers are carted away to concentration camps if they refuse to co-operate, is anybody's guess.
Behold the man of the future as you are next in line.

NEVO

[Mr.Lomax]

Where do I sign up for a vasectomy?

[Feckless]

Do it yourself for free....with a hammer. Anyhow with the right woman kids are actually great....just reminidng. (The happy father in me currently beats the shit out of my usuall cynical self)

[Marx]

And it's great you feel this way, feckless - enjoy it as best you can, make the most of everyday, and appreciate what you have.


But don't mistake today's happiness for tomorrows certainty.

[Stan]

Folks...just google bill of rights...the US Bill of Rights shares or was derived from the BOR's of other countries such as the English Bill of Rights of 1689.

All or nearly all of the provisions do not apply in Family Court.

It is as though in those chambers you are no longer in or a citizen of the country in which you reside. Things that most people take for granted and never "test" in their life don't exist there. Many men and women are shocked when I relay some of what they may face in their upcoming divorce. It can be WAY worse than anything they could have expected.

Decisions are made after hearing from only one side without the other even present.

You are considered guilty if accused and then decisions are made based on that presumption before anything is investigated. If an error is made they won't go back and make things right.

There is no right to confront your accuser in many cases, beyond what I noted above.

No due process of the law.

No equal protection under the law.

No privacy.

No right to quiet enjoyment

No help for destruction of family relationships.

No recourse for honerous/unfair alimony and child support payments. Many wind up in jail (debtor's prison) over this and are then a statistic as a dead beat Dad or Mom.

[Garak]

In short, there is no Due Process of Law in the family courts. They are unconstitutional to say the least but in this feminized nation, the Constitution is nothing more than toilet paper. Republicans and Democrats are guilty of abusing this.

[Stan]

Originally Posted by Garak

In short, there is no Due Process of Law in the family courts. They are unconstitutional to say the least but in this feminized nation, the Constitution is nothing more than toilet paper. Republicans and Democrats are guilty of abusing this.

Garak....when my son was 10 years old...I had to PREPAY his college education. Which would all take place past age 18. And which is beyond his childhood. Of course I want to pay my share of college. But to just hand it to my exe seems very wrong to me.

[Garak]

Originally Posted by Stan

Garak....when my son was 10 years old...I had to PREPAY his college education. Which would all take place past age 18. And which is beyond his childhood. Of course I want to pay my share of college. But to just hand it to my exe seems very wrong to me.

Yes.

The child alimony system has been deemed unconstitutional in Georgia because of things like this.

You see, to make one parent devote a certain amount of money to a child is discriminatory against non-custodial parents, so ruled the court. The reason: The same requirement does not exist for custodial parents.

Think about it. If you were living in the same household as your child, you would not be told how much money to spend on your child and you are not required to send your child to college.

[Stan]

Originally Posted by Garak

Yes.

The child alimony system has been deemed unconstitutional in Georgia because of things like this.

You see, to make one parent devote a certain amount of money to a child is discriminatory against non-custodial parents, so ruled the court. The reason: The same requirement does not exist for custodial parents.

Think about it. If you were living in the same household as your child, you would not be told how much money to spend on your child and you are not required to send your child to college.

Garak...by law child support ends at age 18 assuming graduation from high school. A bit longer if that gets delayed, I think age 19 max.

I have sat in court waiting for my turn and listened to other cases. One involved a Mom showing up with her MARRIED 31 year old daughter who has diabetes and who does not live with Mom. Well the daughter's health insurance coverage decreased when she chose to be a stay at home mom. So she had some out of pocket costs.

The child is 31 and has not been a child for 13 years!! Solution? Take Dad to court for medical costs as a child support claim??!!?

I thought this was a sure throw-it-out of court situation. Instead the Judge starts berating and trying to shame the Dad into voluntarily accepting a new support order. Are you kidding? Then it would go on for the rest of the child's life. The guy said no and then the Judge started looking into ways to make him pay. I had to leave but the situation made an impression on me.

There are also one night stand cases I saw where a guy finds out 10 years later that some girl says he is the Dad of her 10 year old girl and owes 10 years back child support. And when he asks for a DNA test he is treated like a bad person for even asking that. Apparently they wanted to start the child support and then do testing later on. Well that could be a year later or never.

If you ever have a chance check out your local family court at one of their busy times.

[Garak]

Originally Posted by Stan

Garak...by law child support ends at age 18 assuming graduation from high school. A bit longer if that gets delayed, I think age 19 max.

I have sat in court waiting for my turn and listened to other cases. One involved a Mom showing up with her MARRIED 31 year old daughter who has diabetes and who does not live with Mom. Well the daughter's health insurance coverage decreased when she chose to be a stay at home mom. So she had some out of pocket costs.

The child is 31 and has not been a child for 13 years!! Solution? Take Dad to court for medical costs as a child support claim??!!?

I thought this was a sure throw-it-out of court situation. Instead the Judge starts berating and trying to shame the Dad into voluntarily accepting a new support order. Are you kidding? Then it would go on for the rest of the child's life. The guy said no and then the Judge started looking into ways to make him pay. I had to leave but the situation made an impression on me.

There are also one night stand cases I saw where a guy finds out 10 years later that some girl says he is the Dad of her 10 year old girl and owes 10 years back child support. And when he asks for a DNA test he is treated like a bad person for even asking that. Apparently they wanted to start the child support and then do testing later on. Well that could be a year later or never.

If you ever have a chance check out your local family court at one of their busy times.

Believe me, I am well aware of the behavior of the family courts. They should be closed down. They are unconstitutional and I don't know why they are allowed to continue to operate. Even when the Georgia court declared child alimony unconstitutional, do you think anything changed?

However, it is nice to know the atleast one court has ruled against the child alimony system. Understand that the child alimony system is what keeps family courts in business.

[Percy]

Believe me, I am well aware of the behavior of the family courts. They should be closed down.

Not just closed down, torn down. And the people who work the system, the Judges and Lawyers who have dedicated their lives to 'Justice', should be shot.

Can you imagine a hospital where no thought was given to hygene? Where surgery was carried out with dirty sheets and scalples blunt from repeated use; dirty water was used to sluice out; where patients lay in shit; where the only 'medicine' given was Dr Good's Snake Oil ? Where patients would commit suicide after they were discharged, having had their legs hacked off with an axe and their eyes poked out with the only sharp instrument in the place?

You would want that closed down too and a lot more. You would prosecute the Doctors and the nurses, the administrators, even the friggin' janitors. Jail would be considered too good for them.

Imagine if no one was allowed to write about that hospital in the newspapers and no TV cameras were allowed inside the filty wards? Imagine the ancilliary 'professions' that were allowed to 'contribute' - the commissary with only time-expired yoghurt and stale bread for the patients and the fithy tables hired to those patients at $150 an hour just like the pseudo-counsellors that suck at the FC teat.

They should be hanged by their thumbs/balls/clit ironmongery.

Only blood and fire will clean the Family Court.

[Stan]

Hope this does not cross the line. It's from a t-shirt!

[Feckless]

Hm start abusing femdom pics for our case....not a bad idee...

[shaazam]

""How long before fathers are carted away to concentration camps if they refuse to co-operate""

they don't have to cart them away

they just give them a month to pay the peonage dues imposed by the latter day star chambers

now if butthead doesn't pay by the due date

then they cart him away to debtors prison - county gaol

he figures it is better to pay than be buttfucked by psychopaths in gaol

in fact the USA is a Gulag for those men frogmarched then condemned by the Family Court

- what a name for a miserable star chamber !!

it should be renamed Her Court