Please rohara, do not use such an offensive word as responsibility... if a feminist sees it, she will either have a panic attack or launch a crusade against you! Then on the other hand, if it can give a feminist a panic attack, go ahead and use it as much as possible.

After all, when has feminism ever considered responsibility? They gave women plenty of new rights, but did everything they could to shield them from any responsibility, letting the men be responsible for any problem cause by this irresponsible attitude.

A couple of commenter's made some good points about the logistical problems involved with drugging someone's drink, whilst i can see the potential in a house party kind of situation, drugging some random person in a bar would be prohibitively dangerous.
In a bar, weather crowded or not it would be difficult to drug some random persons drink without being seen by friends bar staff bouncers or other patrons, then the victim has to be (once the drug has taken effect) taken away somewhere, and from what i can gather about some of these drugs once its taken effect the victims pretty much a sack of spuds, so carrying a drugged stranger out of a bar without being noticed .... nah i don't buy it.


Although i had a mate who put Viagra in his wife's tea in the hope that she'd get a “wide on”

I can't help but think that the whole date rape drug and rape hysteria over all is rooted in a collective female narcissism. I remember one time I was out and I saw a guy move a drink out of the way from his at the bar. This girl, whose drink it was, came at him screaming: "you put something in my drink you bastard." I approached her and said "no he didn't he was just moving it out of the way I saw it and you didn't."
This did not dissuade her one bit. She started screaming madly like a spoiled child getting the attention of every single chivalrous mangyna in the place, which she clearly liked, and eventually getting the poor guy kicked out. It was total attention whoring.
A lot of women love the role of the long suffering saintly victim as it gives them privilege and power over other people, namingly men. The whole thing just seems like a scam that garners privilege that isn't deserved.

Have not seen Haahoo for a while!

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Have not seen Haahoo for a while!

Hopefully he'll be back when his ban expires.

I miss him.

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Hopefully he'll be back when his ban expires.

I miss him.

What was he banned for?

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A lot of women love the role of the long suffering saintly victim as it gives them privilege and power over other people, namingly men. The whole thing just seems like a scam that garners privilege that isn't deserved.

That just reminded me of another quote from the thread , which really made me chuckle.....


"it gives them victim-cred”

I can't help but think that the whole date rape drug and rape hysteria over all is rooted in a collective female narcissism

Not far wrong there, Rohara.

A couple of commenter's made some good points about the logistical problems involved with drugging someone's drink, whilst i can see the potential in a house party kind of situation, drugging some random person in a bar would be prohibitively dangerous.
In a bar, weather crowded or not it would be difficult to drug some random persons drink without being seen by friends bar staff bouncers or other patrons, then the victim has to be (once the drug has taken effect) taken away somewhere, and from what i can gather about some of these drugs once its taken effect the victims pretty much a sack of spuds, so carrying a drugged stranger out of a bar without being noticed .... nah i don't buy it.

Nivek: the only two incidents I know of people having their drinks spiked were when a bunch of lads on nights out played a trick, a bloody dangerous trick n all, on one of their mates... in both cases it took two of the lads to deal with the "sack of spuds" and another to open doors etc....

Incidentally, I met a guy, about 5 years ago now, maybe more even, who ran a bar in Brighton. He had glass collectors go out with twizzle sticks with the words "This drink has been SPIKED" on them, which they would put in any unfinished, unattended drink... good for the bar, bad for us since it just spreads the myth...

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Not far wrong there, Rohara.



Nivek: the only two incidents I know of people having their drinks spiked were when a bunch of lads on nights out played a trick, a bloody dangerous trick n all, on one of their mates... in both cases it took two of the lads to deal with the "sack of spuds" and another to open doors etc....

Incidentally, I met a guy, about 5 years ago now, maybe more even, who ran a bar in Brighton. He had glass collectors go out with twizzle sticks with the words "This drink has been SPIKED" on them, which they would put in any unfinished, unattended drink... good for the bar, bad for us since it just spreads the myth...

Yeah, kind of puts the whole “hysteria” to bed don't it.

you'd bloody well think so wouldn't ya!?

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This article says something that I have felt for a long time was true. The whole roofie thing is a myth used by women who just drink to damn much and get in trouble. I have never ever ever seen anybody drug a girl with a roofie in her drink ever and I am a real barfly. The whole thing doesn't make sense anyway.

It falls along the same lines of all feminist related hysterias and seems to have become a convenient excuse for women who have gotten too drunk and behaved in ways they regretted the next morning.

Feminists would have women thinking that the world is filled with men waiting to drug, rape or violently assault them given the slightest opportunity.

I wouldn't call it a myth though, there are documented, proven cases of it happening although such cases are so few and far between as to make the reaction to them ridiculously diproportionate.

I have a friend, the only woman I know who has ever been raped, who had something put into her drink. She was out with her husband, the man waited until her husband left to go for a ride with a friend in his new car, and apparently drugged her drink while she was in the restroom.

She started feeling dizzy and weak and decided to go outside for some fresh air. Once there, she was attacked, dragged around the back, raped and left next to the dumpster. She was found a short time later and was taken to the hospital where tests confirmed that she had indeed been drugged, either GHB or Rohypnol....I can't recall which.

The police told her it was the second such incidence in the area and both incidences were nearly identical so I'm sure it was the same person.

kim, as with all myths... there's a likelihood of truth in there... of course women have had their drinks spiked, just not to the insane extent that some would have us believe. The practicalities are real... rhohipnol (whatever!), knocks you out... sorry, but it's just a heck of a lot easier to just get her drunk on vodka and have her walkable to get her back to your pad so you can do yer evil deed

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kim, as with all myths... there's a likelihood of truth in there... of course women have had their drinks spiked, just not to the insane extent that some would have us believe. The practicalities are real... rhohipnol (whatever!), knocks you out... sorry, but it's just a heck of a lot easier to just get her drunk on vodka and have her walkable to get her back to your pad so you can do yer evil deed

Isn't that I just said?

It falls along the same lines of all feminist related hysterias and seems to have become a convenient excuse for women who have gotten too drunk and behaved in ways they regretted the next morning.

there are documented, proven cases of it happening although such cases are so few and far between as to make the reaction to them ridiculously diproportionate.

I recall a number of studies coming to the same conclusion. One in particular, here in the UK, conducted tests on thousands of women admitted to hospitals who thought they had their drink spiked. There wasn't one single woman with any variant of a rape drug in their system. Not one! Instead, tests showed they had drunk to excess or/and taken 'recreational drugs.'

Also, a few months back a Police Chief came out in the media and disclosed in diplomatic jargon that the whole date rape hysteria has been overly exaggerated. But no matter what the facts are now, the feminists have achieved their agenda in perpetuating yet another lie swallowed whole by the masses.

Another piece I read said that more women used date rape drugs, because prostitutes, con women and vengeful partners/exs use it to incapacitate men to rob/attack them. I guess we can't expect any media or police campaigns alerting men to that (real) danger eh?