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    Rape Myths Past and Present

    Rape myths past and present
    New Statesman - London,England,UK
    ... half of rape victims are lying, but a major Home Office research project in 2000-2003 concluded that only three per cent of rape allegations were false. ...


    Surprisingly, these rape myths are as strong today as they were in Stump’s time. Many doctors and lawyers in the nineteenth century didn’t think it was even possible to rape a resisting woman. In a phrase that appears time and again, it is “impossible to sheath a sword into a vibrating scabbard”. Metaphorically, the penis was coded as a weapon; the vagina, its passive receptacle. Merely by “vibrating”, this receptacle could ward off attack.
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    Re: Rape Myths Past and Present

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    Rape myths past and present
    New Statesman - London,England,UK
    ... half of rape victims are lying, but a major Home Office research project in 2000-2003 concluded that only three per cent of rape allegations were false. ...


    Surprisingly, these rape myths are as strong today as they were in Stump’s time. Many doctors and lawyers in the nineteenth century didn’t think it was even possible to rape a resisting woman. In a phrase that appears time and again, it is “impossible to sheath a sword into a vibrating scabbard”. Metaphorically, the penis was coded as a weapon; the vagina, its passive receptacle. Merely by “vibrating”, this receptacle could ward off attack.

    I suggest that you read a book called "The Rantings of a Single Male."

    In his "Rant N" the author, Thomas Ellis, describes his encounter with a Romanian bar maid who had a "rape fantasy." She bet Ellis $100 that he couldn't "rape" her if she resisted. All she needed to do was to wiggle a little and he couldn't come close. When he did manage to restrain her she bit him and it was so painful that he stopped trying. He lost the $100.

    The 19th century doctors and lawyers are a lot closer to accurate than the rape-hate fembabes today. It is actually very difficult to penetrate a female who wiggles, even a much smaller female.

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    Re: Rape Myths Past and Present - Dispelling some myths surrounding rape

    I have come across a post on this subject on another forum and I think it worth repeating here in full.


    Dispelling some myths surrounding rape - The Student Room

    There are a lot of mistaken ideas flying around concerning the subject of rape and what some people erroneously call `rape culture'. Obviously, there is no such thing as rape culture, as we live in a society in which sexual violence is both seen and treated as a terrible crime. Some people still claim it exists though and provide their spurious `evidence' in support of this assertion. This post will address some of that `evidence'.

    First though I'd like to point out that there is no such thing as a rape `survivor'. People survive things like cancer or aeroplane crashes, not rape. It's a misuse of the term and completely unnecessary when the word `victim' perfectly conveys all that needs to be communicated.

    1. `Rape jokes are evidence of rape culture'

    Nope. In fact, they are evidence against rape culture. Rape jokes are a part of black humour, and the whole point of black humour is to extract humour from things which are seen as bad or shocking. The whole reason rape jokes exist is because we do treat rape as something which is terrible and shocking. If rape had become normalised in society that rape jokes wouldn't be rape jokes, they'd merely be rape statements.

    2. `victim blaming is evidence of rape culture'

    Nope. What happens is people mistake concern over womens' safety as moral sanction to rapists to committ sexual violence. There is a focus on what women can do to protect themselves purely because some men will not stop doing bad things simply because you tell them to stop doing bad things. It isn't a case of just saying `don't rape' or `don't steal' or `don't murder' and then expect people to never do these things. No one is raised or told to go out and kill or rape people, they do it because they don't care. How anyone can interpret a desire to prevent women being raped as a normalisation or condoning of acts of sexual barbarity, I have no idea.

    3. `low conviction rates are evidence of rape culture'

    Nope. Conviction rates are low because it's almost always impossible to prove. Quite rightly, we have a justice system that is founded on the principle of innocent until proven guilty. Rape accusations often boil down to her word against his, which doesn't prove his guilt beyond reasonable doubt. It's entirely a good thing that conviction rapes are low, it shows that the justice system is working properly.

    4. `objectification contributes to rape culture'

    Nope. Objectification is, by and large, an intellectually vacuous concept. Viewing a woman sexually doesn't reduce her to a sexual object any more than viewing Roger Federer as a tennis player reduces him to a tennis player. People are presented in different ways depending on the context in which they are presented. Seeing a woman with her tits out in a magazine says nothing about women except that straight males are attracted to certain women without their clothes on. Big deal. Being sexually attracted to topless women does not necessitate any further attitudes pertaining to womens' personalities, characteristics, or other traits. There's simply no logical connection at all.

    5. `Statistics show 1 in 4 women are raped therefore rape culture' (or some over patently absurd figure)

    Nope. These kinds of statistics are always dodgy. They usually come from a source that is massively biased towards reaching a predetermined outcome and which employs devious tactics or vague language to get the results they want. For example, one often-cited survey expanded the definition of rape so far it included forced penetration of the vagina with a finger as rape. Others do not even ask the participants if they believe they were raped, they reach that conclusion themselves.

    But even if the statistics were reliable, they would only show that a certain number of women claim they were raped. You would only know these women were correct if the men who they pinned the rape on were found guilty in a court of law. Except, of course, most of the time this doesn't happen.

    All in all then there is no good evidence we live in a rape culture. There is good evidence we don't however - rape is treated by the law as a very serious crime, and the vast majority of the general public condemn rape as one of the worst things you can do to a person.


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    Re: Rape Myths Past and Present

    Linguistics again??? "Vagina" is Latin for "scabbard or sheath".
    Dixit ergo Jesus Petro: Mitte gladium tuum in vaginam. Calicem, quem dedit mihi Pater, non bibam illum?
    "Whereupon Jesus said to Peter, Put thy sword back into its sheath. Am I not to drink that cup which my Father himself has appointed for me?"

    What man in his right mind would want to rape a woman? What pleasure could he find in an unresponsive female? We would need to ask a few million wage-slaves in sexless marriages about that. They understand it perfectly.

    Plenty of women are happy to "seduce" a man by fair means or foul. But of course, "THAT'S DIFFERENT!"
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    Re: Rape Myths Past and Present

    Yan, How did you weather the storm?

    I certainly hope that you didn't forget to NOT rape any of the women that could have been taken advantage of during the typhoon.


    Do I really need to say "just kidding here" guys? Okay, I won't rofl !!!
    Who really knows what fraction of women have been raped or otherwise sexually assaulted? However I do know that every time I challenge the veracity of the commonly dispensed rape statistics I get falsely accused of hating women. Thus if false accusation is the immediate, knee jerk, mainstay of feminist response? What does this tell us about the majority of women making accusations of rape? Hey, I'm just asking...


 

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