Thread: Girl recants rape accusation, cycling coach walks

What percentage of the time are rape allegations false? Not just when "found out" later on, but also including for guys still in jail where they were actually innocent.

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What percentage of the time are rape allegations false? Not just when "found out" later on, but also including for guys still in jail where they were actually innocent.

Ok I found a Feminist claiming that 2% of all rape accusations are FALSE.

And some other sources say that 25-43-50-XX % of all rape accusations are false.

There does not seem to be much agreement!

Celtish found one police community that discovered 63% of allegations were false. Not by force, not by manipulation, nothing - the 63% came from their own admissions under no duress.
I don't suspect it's commonly that high, but this was one example.

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Celtish found one police community that discovered 63% of allegations were false. Not by force, not by manipulation, nothing - the 63% came from their own admissions under no duress.
I don't suspect it's commonly that high, but this was one example.

Talking to Feminists about rape is strange. They get so angry and irrational about it. The 2% woman was saying that it did not matter if there were any false allegations when I explained that all other sources say the false claims are in the 25-50-XX% range.

"It doesn't matter...if they did not rape this time they certainly did in the past so they are finally caught"

But you are advocating people who did not rape the person that says they were raped.

It doesn't matter, we also help keep rapists off the street that would rape in the future.

OMG. This is just wacked. And people that think like that are writing and pushing for more and stronger laws favoring women.

It's like they want to imprison all men.

Being as there seems to be a wholesale abandonment of civil justice, previously based upon due process, a search for truth and a community sense of 'right and wrong but now based upon maliciousness and falsehood, perhaps we should just let the ship of civilisation turn over.

Bring back slavery and enslave false accusers into their victims' service for 20 years as recompense.

Alternatively put them in a cage in the public square for a year with a sign saying what they did and install a rotting fruit stall nearby. Let them live in their own shit, eating whatever scraps they can retrieve from what is thrown at them.

What's the betting that false accusations would disappear after a year or two.

How about public stockades followed by featherdusting?

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Talking to Feminists about rape is strange. They get so angry and irrational about it. The 2% woman was saying that it did not matter if there were any false allegations when I explained that all other sources say the false claims are in the 25-50-XX% range.

"It doesn't matter...if they did not rape this time they certainly did in the past so they are finally caught"

But you are advocating people who did not rape the person that says they were raped.

It doesn't matter, we also help keep rapists off the street that would rape in the future.

OMG. This is just wacked. And people that think like that are writing and pushing for more and stronger laws favoring women.

It's like they want to imprison all men.

If you have a link, I'd suggest adding these quotes to the feminist hate quotes thread, found here

Rick Lee, must be thaking the Almighty that he created beings that had a prerogative to change their minds

other wise Rick would be doing hard time like thousands of anyonymous men are as we speak upon malicious lies from malicious scatter brained wimmin

Oh yes !!!

they lie and lie and lie eg Duke Lacrosse

innocent male students would have been doing hard time were not lies perpetrated against them were untreadled by their attorneys

these new age feminit liars lose no sleep upon being exposed

"In a court filing provided by Shipman, prosecutor Patricia Broscius withdrew the charges, citing "newly discovered exculpatory evidence" and "victim recantation." Broscius would not comment Friday."

Victim recantation?

Now I am confused. Shipman was the victim, so he recanted? How can a victim recant? Did he recant his innocence? But then he would not be a victim but a perpetrator...yet he wasn't.

Help me somebody please. I don't speak the language of legalese contradictory double-think that seems to come so easily to these people.

BTW, for those wanting the truth about false accusations, you can hardly do better than to start with this excellent site:

http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/

Note the incredible frequency of entries. It is virtually a new case every day. False Rape Archivist does us all a big favour by revealing the truth.

Yep, yep he does!

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What percentage of the time are rape allegations false? Not just when "found out" later on, but also including for guys still in jail where they were actually innocent.

Nobody knows that so exactly, but I read about USA and about its many 'borderline' cases - it's complicated, it's a greyzone, it is not simply like that 'he did it or not' and 'she was raped or not'.

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About 50 percent claiming rape will change their accusation after the first questioning, generally something happened, but not rape...for example a pickpocket took the wallet out of her trousers, or a boyfriend was beating her...or whatever...something happened, but not rape.

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Further, there are about 20 percent, who are just a liar and should be charged with wasting of police investigation work because of DELIBERATE false allegations. - To keep the police busy as a psycho-girl, drunk, drugs, bad mood, fantasy dreams, but not so frequently that it's a certain person who is accused as rapist, many women are only telling 'empty stories' about a phantom-rapist, who does not exist, about a crime which never took place.

3 -
About 5 percent are not ending in conviction, as considered to be innocent or not enough evidence. Case dismissed in court.

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About 5 percent are ending in conviction, without doubt a criminal, a true rapist.

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Another 5 percent are totally indigent, unable to pay for aggressive legal defence and entering a plea bargain instead - even if DNA does not match. Legal fees are a problem, for sure, some innocent men are behind bars.

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Another additional 5 percent are convicted of rape, however to relatively short sentences and are strongly - often with good arguments - denying the rape charges (something like date-rape, spousal rape, rape among minors).

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Finally, about 10 percent are not making it up to the courts...out of various reasons.

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Only 5 percent of all complaints seems to fit the case of a proven violent rape - a dangerous rapist who needs to be locked up.

I do not want to say however that 95 percent of all accusations are therefore 'deliberately false allegations' and that all these women should be charged and sentenced to jail.

The percentage of 'deliberate false allegations' might be somewhere around 20 percent, I cannot show up with hard evidence.

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"In a court filing provided by Shipman, prosecutor Patricia Broscius withdrew the charges, citing "newly discovered exculpatory evidence" and "victim recantation." Broscius would not comment Friday."

Victim recantation?

Now I am confused. Shipman was the victim, so he recanted? How can a victim recant? Did he recant his innocence? But then he would not be a victim but a perpetrator...yet he wasn't.

Help me somebody please. I don't speak the language of legalese contradictory double-think that seems to come so easily to these people.

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Paul P. thanks for point this out! I am ashamed to say that I completely missed it on my own. It should read "accuser recantation". It is sad to see that a man can be thrown in prison solely based on the testimony of a female and released based solely on her "recantation." When are police going to start doing their jobs and make the female accusers prove something before the accused males get anywhere near a prison cell?

Free of rape charge, coach vindicated but admits 'error'
Allentown Morning Call - Allentown,PA,USA...Lee had been in prison since he turned himself in to police the day after the alleged rape. District Attorney John Morganelli would not comment Friday, but The Associated Press reported he has not determined whether the girl will be charged with filing a false report....

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Based solely on a female's accusation, the police locked up a man for four months? Unspeakabley enraging! No man is safe with this kind of injustice. Women and girls, the alleged "equals" of men and boys, utter the word rape and the police round up the nearest men and throw them in prison where they stay unless the lying tarts decide to "recant." WTF is that? Then the same INjustice system hems and haws about so much as raising it's voice to the witches who perpetrate such violence against men.

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BTW, for those wanting the truth about false accusations, you can hardly do better than to start with this excellent site:

http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com/

Note the incredible frequency of entries. It is virtually a new case every day. False Rape Archivist does us all a big favour by revealing the truth.

Great site! Thanks for the link.

Note the egregious bias in the first paragraph of this insane story:

HERE IS THE NEWS STORY:

Woman falsely reports rape to get day off from work

Marlow -Rape is a traumatic crime, and when police get a call reporting sexual assault, it's taken very seriously. Police want to make sure that the person responsible for the crime is locked up and prevented from attacking anyone else, but 2% of all rape cases reported are discovered to be false accusations...


What the "reporter" is saying is that, if a woman contacts the police and cries "rape", the police take her at her word and lock up whomever has been accused to prevent him "fromt attacking anyone else." This is an assumption of guilt which a man must overcome in order to be freed. Women know this is how police operate. That is why false rape claims are so prevalent. If police want to see this female device curtailed, they had better stop automatically arresting those accused and start thoroughly interrogating the accusers. Women know that they will be treated with kid gloves even if they are caught lying.